Id take Matuidi plus 70m. A player with 0 value in a year or two isn’t worth more than 10-20m even in today’s market.
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Id take Matuidi plus 70m. A player with 0 value in a year or two isn’t worth more than 10-20m even in today’s market.
Mandukic
Matuidi Number 10 Rashford
McTominay Pogba
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Matuidi McTominay Pogba
Set up like France.Matuidi Number 10 Rashford
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Attack in a 433, defend in a 442.
A 33 year old striker and a 32 year old CM? How do they plan to fill the rest of the £60m valuation gap?
No thanks. Matuidi’s legs are as good as gone, it would be another Matic situation all over again. If they’re going to offer different players in the swap deal, I want someone in the beginning of their prime, not at the tail end.
FIFA really need to bring something in to get on top of agents getting huge money from transfers. 10% of transfer fee max, and even then what exactly have they done to earn it? Few phone calls, shit stirring in the media, playing clubs against each other. Agents are a joke.
United have done nothing wrong here. To be fair, Juventus haven't either. Juve have a player they don't want and wanted to use him to get a player they did. United have a player they don't want and were interested in the deal offered by Juve.
The player from Juve couldn't agree. The player from United just wants out. The Juve player is prepared to be treated like shite and used his out to try to obtain a ridiculous deal to leave. His agent exploited the position as well.
The end result is Juve will be left with a player who loves the club but deep down knows he's not wanted and has been treated pretty badly, but ultimately his own greed has left him stranded with little bargaining power.
United are left with a player they will try to sell elsewhere because they know he wants to leave. They have backed away from signing a FIFA superstar and rejected his unreasonable demands and they have appeared to learn from past mistakes.
Just because Ole, or Ed, or the Glazers don't buy who the fans here want, doesn't make it right to declare all out war against them. Claim they are clueless, claim they don't care or claim they are inept
They have signed an exceptionally promising young winger/attacking forward. They have paid a lot of money for an exceptionally promising defender/wing back to replace a player who was never a true fit, and fill a position that has been neglected for years.
The young player is a proper talent and has shown he could be a top world class player In his position after a couple of performances. His potential is exciting.
On top of that a world record fee has been paid for a centre back. A position the fans have been raging about being filled for years now and with a player who could become truly world class. But the fans moan we don't spend enough, then moan we spend too much.
Instead of being happy let's ignore the positives and instead let's moan and attack and disrupt and act like spoiled kids because we didn't sign a FIFA team and because players the Caf liked were ignored, because let's face it, the Caf knows better.
Bollocks. Yes there are negatives but there are so many positives that are being ignored or overlooked.
We have some excellent youth players who can step up, and remember, nobody wins anything with kids!
I just hope that ridiculous statement comes back to haunt this generation as much as it did the last!
Absolute bullshit reply.
Now things are looking a lot more like us, getting absolutely robbed.
Are agent fees literally just a 'now give us some money too or else we won't sell him to you' kind of thing?
Would absolutely take mandzukic as a separate stand alone deal. No way to some other pick n mix rubbish.
Please god deliver us a midfielder so this season can be something new
Please god deliver us a midfielder so this season can be something new
That's exactly what I think they are. Sure they maybe do some work for a cut, but 10s of millions worth of work? It's outrageous. Even Neymars family being given money by Barca, what the fecks that about?
Pretty hard saying Juve have done nothing wrong if they've told a player his brain will be all over the contract if he doesn't sign it to be honest.
That tweet is satire, I've no idea why mods haven't removed it yet.
I suppose they (wrongly) think people on here have the intelligence to work it out for themselves, but clearly not. It’s quite obviously a piss take.
Quite safe to say that would've been way over the top, but I do believe Juve has told Dybala in quite strong terms he should be moving on, obviously not telling him they would blow his brains out.
Even if the exact wording of blowing his brains out are a piss take, do you not think Juve have been pretty straightforward in their treatment of Dybala?
What Juve want doesn't matter at all if the player is hell bent on staying put. The contracts are iron-clad, just see the example with Bale.
To me it speaks volumes what Dybala thinks of United as of now, that he'd rather stay at a club which is desperate to move him on than take a step down with us. We loved to harp about how we can attract the very best even if we are not competitive, guess now that illusion has disappeared.
I'd agree with this. United at this time don't have the required "pull" for some of the top players. I'm going to guess that there will be a lot of posters here who may disagree and that's completely fine but these days only the 90s British kids who grew up watching United of that time would "dream of signing for United". The rest of the world sadly has moved on from us in the past years since SAF retired.
I don't even believe that pogba bid is real. As dense as Real are, repeatedly low balling someone will eventually stop everyone responding to them and damage relations between clubs.
I don't think he necessarily sees it as a step down, it's very hard for a South American kid who grew up playing in Italy to make such a huge lifestyle change and move to England. There's the odd one like Aguero but most aren't brave enough to go through with it.
Even if we had the CL I still think he’d have major doubts about making the move to us, and again I’m not surprised. It was always such a far fetched transfer.
Aguero, Sanchez, Suarez, Tevez etc are some of the most successful South Americans to ply their trade in PL, all of them were quite recent and successful too.
If you are an attractive proposition and stump enough money, players will follow. If Liverpool and City were interested in Dybala, he wouldn't give two shits about staying put at Juventus.
Bustling day, lot of behind the scenes. A foreword: Juve decided to sell both Paulo Dybala and Mario Mandzukic due to accounting and sporting choices. Dybala is expected in the next hours for medical exams and for the first training under Sarri. Sarri himself has not yet spoken with Dybala and awaits further communications from the club.
Mandzukic has a total agreement with Manchester United and the deal could go on independently of the Dybala Lukaku swap. United likes Matuidi, but for the moment there have been no talks. Within these developments anything can happen, but the fundamental truth is that Juve does not count on Dybala and Mandzukic for the upcoming season. Dybala has taking his time, rejecting proposals or not fully accepting them, despite a base salary of 11 million plus bonuses per season and despite the encounters between his agent and United. From England they claim that Manchester has finally given up on Paulo: they may be right, but we would wait.
Inter in all this is ready to get back in the game for Lukaku, we have always said that the Nerazzuri hopes were always linked to Dybala's no. The Nerazzurri offer on the table as of several weeks ago is 70 million plus any bonuses, we'll see if Inter will raise again to 75 million plus bonuses, having long since found an understanding with the Belgian striker. We will see above all if Juve gives up, Mandzukic is at stake and after a long pursuit of Lukaku the risk of being overtaken by Inter could be a real blow. That is why we would still wait. Considering also the very cold relationships that would further condition - at least on paper, any talks about Icardi.
The Danilo-Cancelo exchange with Manchester City, on the other hand, was already proceeding at full speed 48 hours ago, with Juve receiving close to 35 million. Danilo will receive between 3.5 and 4 million per season, while Cancelo will earn a sum close to 5 million plus any bonuses for each season with Manchester City. Announcement soon.
So in that case, Madrid are valuing Pogba at around €80 million? They asked €42 million from Napoli for Rodriguez and their offered another €30 ish million…
Good post
I love Matuidi but this is a terrible offer. He's a good player but the team is already filled with creative players and he's bit too old. Mandzukic is old too.
Mentioning Tevez ruins your entire argument, he was sent out to west ham of all clubs the season they got relegated and he followed the money all through his career.
If they want to throw in another player we should ask for Bentancur
So we value Lukaku at around £80m, we wanted to sign Mandzukic for £13m, they offer Matuidi as well so that makes him a £67m player? No chance, hes 32 for goodness sake.
And that Real offer
And that Real offer
Juventus can keep their trash.
Brilliant and so accurate of more than a few on here.
Yep. Even entertaining such idea it's ridiculous. We aren't dumping house
Ha ha they're having a laugh. They can get fecked. How about £100m and Rodriguez. He'd be taking a risk going there as Mourinho is circling if reports are to be believed.
I'd maybe take Bentacur and Douglas Costa
really impressed with that Bentacur when I've seen him
Is he a playmaking #8?
Douglas costa and 70million, would be OK.
I doubt Costa would want to come either unless for huge wages. But yes would be a better right forward than anyone we have.
People saying they’d take a certain player in plus money. The whole idea of them swapping Dybala is because they don’t have the money. And there’s some dreadful swap ideas being thrown about.
Matuidi and Mandzukic value is no way near Lukaku’s. The deal with Juve is dead.
Matuidi and Mandzukic value is no way near Lukaku’s. The deal with Juve is dead.
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