I see we have the usual trend. Good news = BS, fake etc..., Bad news = must be the truth.
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It's been obvious we are working with limited transfer funds this summer. There's no other explanation for taking this long to get going on the market with all that work that would actually be needed. Shame though. This season will be so so tough.
These clubs are above you, even if they dont sign it is unlikely we will catch them. So yes, we need to sign our targets and soon if we want to be a competitive club again.
Catch them? Haha. We absolutely battered Spurs & Chelsea in the league table from when Ole took over until the end of the season man.
Why can't we get transfers over the line if we have loads of money.
Tielemans is 45 million.
Fernandes 50/55 million
Longstaff 25million
Milenkovic 45 million
Meunier 25 million
Aarons. 15 million.
Tielemans is 45 million.
Fernandes 50/55 million
Longstaff 25million
Milenkovic 45 million
Meunier 25 million
Aarons. 15 million.
I dont understand the hold up with signing a CM to be honest.
Weird. We finished 4 points ahead of Spurs and 18 ahead of Arsenal the year before last and they both managed to catch us.
1) This is just not true. Manchester Uniteds net spend over the past 5 year is -£488.06 million pounds. 14/15, 16/17 and 17/18 had net spends of £131,45m, £124.07m and £137.61m respectively. The outlier year is last season with £46.94m.
2) Is it, though? We have tried for 7 years straight to try to compete for the league title by spending big. It has gotten us nowhere. Yes the notion is that "We should always try to win everything always", but look at it from a realistic standpoint: We can't keep doing the same thing we have been doing. We need a new structure and a club culture that supports the longevity of the squad. 2-3 years is a window I am happy with to start realistically challenging for the league title. The gap this year was over 30 points to Man City and Liverpool. Thats astronomical numbers. Simply throwing money at the problem won't solve anything. We need players that are young and can be depended upon the next 5-10 years. A-grade talent.
3) This is partially true, and partially not that simple. Real Madrids most valuable asset that they want to sell right now is Gareth Bale. And Gareth Bale wants nothing to do with being sold. If Real Madrid buys Paul Pogba, they are looking at a net amount of £267 ~ million in player assets that needs to be sold to comply with FFP. If Gareth Bale does not want to move, Real Madrid can get no more business of significance done this summer. They have other valuable players of course, but they are part of Zidanes plan moving forward and are not for sale.
And it's not like Manchester United does not have assets with sale value. Marcus Rashford would fetch a very high sum in the open market. Same with Paul Pogba should we choose to get rid of him and replace him with a player with a more Man United friendly attitude. Luke Shaw, Romelu Lukaku are both worth north of £50-60 million respectively. Plus we have very young talent that are poised for breakout seasons in Gomes and Greenwood. McTominay might become a revelation this season as well.
Marcus Rashford is report about to sign a new long term contract with the club, the same with David De Gea.
And honestly I would not worry too much yet. There are U-21's ongoing and the Copa America. Bruno Fernandes' agent is in Manchester today to meet with the club regarding his client. Its all moving forward in a timely manner. I'm expecting Wan-Bissaka to be confirmed next week.
And with that being said, we are not spending over half our available budget on a rightback, obviously the moneybank runs deeper.
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To only be thinking about the top 4 next season is as short sighted as suggesting we should spend 25m on a 29 year old RB now despite the fact that in 2 or 3 years time you'll need to spend at least that again (likely more) when he needs replacing
Stop looking at the short term and concentrate on the long term, that's how we're in the mess we're in at the moment by signing too many stop gaps that need replacing before they've even achieved anything at the club (Zlatan, Matic, Sanchez etc etc)
Ultimately, the high end of our budget will be limited by FFP.
That being said: The estimate revenue for Manchester United in the fiscal year 2018/2019 is around £615-630 million pounds. This is a new club record. Beating the previous record of £590 million set in 2017/2018.
It's up to the board how much risk they are willing to take, but we can't really judge them before this transfer window closes.
No he wasnt. He just tried hard unlike many of the other superstars. He had the best attitude but was not one of the better players.
It seems to an acceptance from many fans on here that he is the future of our midfield, i suppose all will be found out next season as he plays a more prominent role. I hope i am wrong.
To be fair @GBBQ isn't being that short sighted, we're going to be rebuilding (hopefully) everything from top to bottom and top 4 next season would be a solid start to that. There's obviously great players (De Ligt, Rabiot, Sancho etc) who don't want to move to us as we're not as an attractive destination as other clubs as we don't have CL next season. It was reported by a reporter with close links to Sanchos camp that he would've moved to United if we had got CL football, that's what every top player probably classes as the minimum when moving clubs, so as part of the rebuild, top 4 next season is a step in the right direction and then hopefully we sign more top quality players next season and so on.
With regards to the RB situation, Meunier wouldn't have been short sighted, he's experienced, would cost half of what AWB will cost us, a United fan and more importantly, would allow Dalot and Laird to progress without too much attention on them. Now the path for young full backs at the club gets a little more murky as we'll have 3 very young full backs in Dalot, AWB and Dalot, hardly giving youth a chance which we've heard plenty of times.
Bruno's agent 'Hello'.
Woodward 'Yes this is Ed Woodward, we have proposal for Bruno'.
Bruno's agent 'Ok lets hear it then'.
Woodward 'No we must speak in person to discuss these terms'.
As if they can't do that over the phone.
£50 million is a lot of money, especially for a player with one season under his belt. The market has inflated slightly but City got Walker for £45m only 2 summers ago and he was best RB at the time, what is AWB maybe 5th best in the league? And he plays for Crystal Palace, not Spurs. I want him but simply throwing around money is not what we should do. However if we wanted him we should have known by Christmas and should have got the deal done before he was away with the under 21s.
I'm going to frame this, an actual common sense post that I agree with.
Fairly obvious we don’t have the money. Messing about offering different offers to Palace.
Where did I say we only have 100m? If you think we have as much money to spend as the other big clubs then you are deluded.
Where did I say we only have 100m? If you think we have as much money to spend as the other big clubs then you are deluded.
We have all the money in the world but the Glazers aren’t releasing it. They’re looking to sell I’m convinced of that.
Regarding transfers in those years: In these two years, our net spend was about 100m. Maybe 102m-to-104m depending on which source you use. And another reason we're in this position is we haven't invested properly between 09 and 2013, when players were affordable and other teams were investing. We're now in a position where we need to spend 300m to catch up with Man City. Either that or just accept we're not winning the league, which United should never do before a ball has been kicked.
Regarding grade A talent: Yes, exactly. And that's why City are so far ahead. They've spent the money to get there. They bought players like Sane and Bernado Silva for 40m. Spent big on Laporte. Spent big on Mahrez. Without similar investment, we won't get close, regardless of how long we wait. Spending 300m this year on six 50m players will allow us to compete.
Then that just makes a mockery of bringing the transfer window earlier and closing earlier this season. It’s been open since May, there’s no excuse to get deals lined up earlier
What the feck? Why can’t we handle 2 potential transfers simultaneously ?
I think its due to limited funds.
We need to know how much we'll have left after the AWB deal, if we need to make any sales etc. Its the only plausible explanation I can think of.
Because the eventual cost of one might impact the available funds for another?
Of course it's a short sighted signing, he'll be 28 in September, same age as Matic was when he signed and look at him now needs replacing already and hasn't contributed to any success whatsoever. We need to dispense with the stop gap signings
Not just on the pitch, throughout the team. Started with SAF and Gill leaving at the same time and was compounded with the hiring of LVG. Cohesion is the most underrated aspect of pro sports and right now United is a mess in that regards. Need someone who can be a leader first and foremost, the only one close to being able to do that imo just left on a free.
Excellent post, btw.
The fee will be agreed in principle despite what Ducker says. There’s no way Mitten and Castles would go out on a limb on that without substance. Ducker/BBC all those guys are always last to everything and never confirm things until it’s imminent.
Compete and utter nonsense.
Makes sense when you have owners who want to sell.
So we'll discard the N'Dombele to Spurs links as he's not a listed target according to Ducker? Even though a good source for Spurs said things we're moving along well with N'Dombele.
What are they talking actually?
True, the stop gap signings only work if you already have a stable squad and you need to fill a position with a top player aka Van Persie. The likes of Matic just adds more instability.
Ndombele and Fernandes can work together. Ndombele as the box to box #8 and Fernandes the #10
Just to clear something up, since this sort of post is rather common on the Caf. Some businessmen (and agents are businessmen, no doubt) are very old school and like to hammer out details in person. There's a higher likelihood of working around potential sticking points when you're in the same room as the other party, rather than doing it over email or phone. Usually, if there's a particular detail about a deal that the parties are finding to be a real obstacle, they will agree to meet in person to find a compromise. I tangentially work in business and see this happen all the time as deals come down to the wire or momentum stalls and both sides worry about a slowdown potentially killing the deal.
All that being said, the article clearly says that Bruno's agent is the one pushing to "accelerate" the deal and flying to England. Nowhere does it say that Woodward asked him to fly out. Sporting's president is claimed to have requested the agent move things along, hence flying out to talk details rather than continuing long-distance negotiating. I don't happen to believe the Portuguese press that we're in for Bruno (or at least that we're in for him as hard as they say we are), but that is what they're saying.
Well, you can't dismiss it. We've made one fricken signing so far and the players are back in less than 2 weeks.
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