Dortmund perhaps?Who the hell is going to pay 80 million for Zaha.
Dortmund perhaps?
And what happened in the summer of 2012?
We signed v.Persie?
Exactly. Ahead of City who also wanted him.
You know you're agreeing with me right?
80 million for Zaha, has the world gone completely fecking mad?
True, but if Sancho is sold, Dortmund is still a possible destination for Zaha.No-one is paying 80m for Zaha
They’d be lucky lucky lucky to get 50.
Dunno, was just pointing out that it’s swings and roundabouts really.
We need to give him time on that one. He hasn't really got many options but to play some of them and he saw what happened with Mourinho. He's possibly trying to keep them onside for now in case it gets toxic again. We've already seen the performance levels drop, so maybe he's given them some of the truths Mourinho did behind closed doors and they couldn't take it off him either.Personally no. Look at Guardiolas first two summers at CIty and there was a huge turnaround of players. Got rid of players he didnt rate and replaced them. These things take time if you do them in stages.
Worst part of it for me is even promoting some of our youngsters, we will have another year of deadwood and under performing players and ones past there peak probably....Jones, Young, Matic, Sanchez, Martial, Perreira will all still be here preseason...expect only Rojo, Darmian to be certain leavers and possibly Mata and Herrera contract wise.....a £200m warchest with pretty much nothing added to itfrom outgoings isnt really a huge amount to spend on 4/5 top quality players if you think about it.
As much as I love Solkjear and the job he has done so far overall. Looking deeper, past the honeymoon period, the contracts given to the likes of Jones and Young, the apparent faith he is giving players even though he has already publicy stated about reality checks and that he is looking at a sensible long term approach as you put it......managers dont really have that much time and I would hate for fans to turn on him......but call it a knee jerk reaction, forgetting playing style, I think Mourinho had the right reading of the players in his squad (all be it he bought a lot of them) but the wrong personality......I am already starting to feel Solkjear has the right personality but maybe not the right reading or ruthlessness of the players he has.
Those three were not superstars anymore skill wise at the moment of arrival. With this in mind, I would call it ex superstar strategy. Or just a very bad strategy.You don't remember sanchez, di maria, falcao, ibra or schweiny?
All superstars. Just not by the time we got them!!
I’d be up for a loan deal as one of our additions.
But this kind of signing is exactly what's wrong with the club.
‘Bad’ signings are what is wrong with the club. You can never be certain whether one will be good or bad, especially when it involves a good footballer.
We need an experienced forward, in my opinion. Taking a top one on loan is a gamble worth taking.
I just can't handle another "marquee" signing who's past his best, injury prone, on a downward trajectory and on massive wages.
Yeah, but that's different from Bale. Bale is being forced out. RVP had his best season with Arsenal and forced his way out for lack of ambition.But at the same time you would love another Van Persie season from somewhere, I suspect. No risk, no reward, and low risk is better than a high one.
But at the same time you would love another Van Persie season from somewhere, I suspect. No risk, no reward, and low risk is better than a high one.
Yeah, but that's different from Bale. Bale is being forced out. RVP had his best season with Arsenal and forced his way out for lack of ambition.
By what metric could Bale be considered low risk? Consistently injured, exorbitant wages, ageing, 'Galactico' big name. It stinks.But at the same time you would love another Van Persie season from somewhere, I suspect. No risk, no reward, and low risk is better than a high one.
I'd love a player that Solkjaer or our scouts feel is the RIGHT player for us going forward, with the right personality, temperament, ability, potential -regardless of current status, value, reputation, marketability, etc.
By what metric could Bale be considered low risk? Consistently injured, exorbitant wages, ageing, 'Galactico' big name. It stinks.
Is it though? One is being forced out, and the other forced his way out for greater ambition. It's not the same thing.Well of course it’s different, two cases are highly likely to be identical. The main similarity, is the quality of the footballer.
Agreed. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do whatever it takes to do it. People want someone with the right character? Get de Ligt.Doubt De Ligt has us in mind this summer with the plethora of clubs after him.
Just spend the money on de Ligt. Despite his age, he's a leader and has world class talent. If we managed to sign him, and another world class talent, with no other money spent, I would be happy at this point.
Enough gambling on relatively unknown players like Fred, Darmian, and Bailly.
Is it though? One is being forced out, and the other forced his way out for greater ambition. It's not the same thing.
Falcao was a loan and it was a waste of a year.By the metric that he would be a loan signing. And you forgot to add ‘quality footballer’ to that list.
It’s about balancing all factors I guess.
Falcao was a loan and it was a waste of a year.
Just spend the money on de Ligt. Despite his age, he's a leader and has world class talent. If we managed to sign him, and another world class talent, with no other money spent, I would be happy at this point.
Enough gambling on relatively unknown players like Fred, Darmian, and Bailly.
When I mean unknown, it doesn't mean they're completely unknown. I'm comparing them to someone like de Ligt, Sancho, Pogba, etc...Unknown Darmian? What rock you live under? He was a very good player prior to joining United. We could also feck up De Ligt, any signing is a risk.
Just need to ignore Mino. Barca are fine with Mino apparently. People want to sell Pogba because he's the only one that could fetch us money. Buying de Ligt is worth it, because people would still want him even if he does want out.De Ligt probably doesn’t want to join us and hows our relationship with Mino currently?