Irrational.
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You're right. I'm hoping for too muchManchester United?
You're right. I'm hoping for too muchManchester United?
Maybe. but that could be risky, I am not against it by the way. You could find the next big thing or you could find someone who was playing at a lower club for a good reason.Seems we tried that since SAF retired, maybe we should change our approach and get almost made players, reshape and build them into players we need for the top.
Sorry.You're right. I'm hoping for too much
Anyone else think this transfer window will suck. I just cannot get on board about us actually getting it right. I also think this season is going to end on a downer by being knocked out comfortably by Barcelona, failing to get top 4 and then watching Liverpool or City win the league. Never mind potentially losing our two best players in the summer.
I need something positive to happen soon...
While I've been feeling pessimistic recently, the idea we can't buy players to get us competing again is silly really. Liverpool haven't won the league for 30 years but they bought good players. Their best players - VVD, Mane, Salah, Firmino, Alisson weren't massive names that everyone was fighting over. They sold their 'best players' Coutinho and Suarez and reinvested the money so they became better after they left.
Our main problems are everything else apart from the transfers... we're a bloated monstrosity of a club, structurally crumbling, wrong priorities, bad people in charge.
Good manager who is getting everything out of them as well. Could you imagine if we had got Klopp. Well actually I think Klopp is at the right club, he is allowed to deal with things his way, they have bought exactly who he wants. Think he would have had problems with Ed.Plus Robertson, Millner and Henderson
Nail, head, right there.While I've been feeling pessimistic recently, the idea we can't buy players to get us competing again is silly really. Liverpool haven't won the league for 30 years but they bought good players. Their best players - VVD, Mane, Salah, Firmino, Alisson weren't massive names that everyone was fighting over. They sold their 'best players' Coutinho and Suarez and reinvested the money so they became better after they left.
Our main problems are everything else apart from the transfers... we're a bloated monstrosity of a club, structurally crumbling, wrong priorities, bad people in charge.
It probably won't end, because we keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.Another season of needing 5 players and pretty much the same positions.....when will it end?
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Nail, head, right there.
Problem poor Ole is now going to see it from close quarters.It probably won't end, because we keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
We brought in Pogba, Zlatan, Mhiki and Bailly with Europa League on the horizon on the promise of building a project (and top level wages thrown in for good measure).
We’re still a huge club and the win in Paris will serve as a reminder of our potential. We’ll be an extremely attractive prospect to most players. Let’s wait until the window closes before we start writing the obituaries.
Good manager who is getting everything out of them as well. Could you imagine if we had got Klopp. Well actually I think Klopp is at the right club, he is allowed to deal with things his way, they have bought exactly who he wants. Think he would have had problems with Ed.
Think if he doesn't get it right, then he will be the focus. I would never have a go at Ole. Like a lot I was worried we named him manager before the season was over. I just think a lot of complacency had settled on the club. Which will be to our detriment if they don't wake up. If they hadn't named him then the players may have kept on performing.This is why I don't think we will prosper until Woodward leaves or we get new owners. We just keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
After this summer there's nowhere for Woodward to hide.
Exactly. I really don't think 1 year out of CL will affect us that much- if the players believe in Oles project we won't have much difficulty to get back into it for the next year. I hope we use the EL to field the B team youngsters like Greenwood, Chong, Garner etc and focus on the PL completely. If we're in it.We brought in Pogba, Zlatan, Mhiki and Bailly with Europa League on the horizon on the promise of building a project (and top level wages thrown in for good measure).
We’re still a huge club and the win in Paris will serve as a reminder of our potential. We’ll be an extremely attractive prospect to most players. Let’s wait until the window closes before we start writing the obituaries.
It probably won't end, because we keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Think if he doesn't get it right, then he will be the focus. I would never have a go at Ole. Like a lot I was worried we named him manager before the season was over. I just think a lot of complacency had settled on the club. Which will be to our detriment if they don't wake up. If they hadn't named him then the players may have kept on performing.
Same - if anything goes wrong now it's on Wooward/board
I would never have a go at Ole.
Is that really the right attitude? granted it’s way too early to blame him for anything, but everyone needs to be held accountable, no?
I want to see who we bring in first, if I think he is being short changed then I will not blame him.Is that really the right attitude? granted it’s way too early to blame him for anything, but everyone needs to be held accountable, no?
Ed knows what he's doing. He backed all our managers and will back Ole as well. It feels like the necessary changes are being made behind the scenes to be a real force within the next two/three years. We have the right manager now and this combination can bring us success.
Ed knows what he's doing. He backed all our managers and will back Ole as well. It feels like the necessary changes are being made behind the scenes to be a real force within the next two/three years. We have the right manager now and this combination can bring us success. The long term view is one to get behind.
Don't talk sense on here.Let's see how the summer develops before we start burying the club.
I think the best thing to do is to hold the club accountable regardless of whether Ole fails. Because otherwise, the cycle will continue for another 3-5 years of them pretending it's all down to the managers.Is that really the right attitude? granted it’s way too early to blame him for anything, but everyone needs to be held accountable, no?
Ed knows what he's doing. He backed all our managers and will back Ole as well. It feels like the necessary changes are being made behind the scenes to be a real force within the next two/three years. We have the right manager now and this combination can bring us success. The long term view is one to get behind.
Don't talk sense on here.
People saying we are making the same mistakes before the window even begins
We didn't do business last year because the profile of players the manager wanted didn't match the DNA of United. We got all the other players he wanted including Sanchez to complete our attack.He didn't back Jose last season, yeah it was rightfully probably but we don't know for sure do we, what we do know is, he didn't get Jose who he wanted. He doesn't always back the managers. Pretty sure LVG has said Woody meddled too much as well.
To say he knows what he's doing sort of contradicts what we've seen so far.
It's baffling. It is rumoured it is someone within the club, so why not announce it and let them get working?I'm talking about the structure of the club, the planning etc we were supposed to bring in DOF before we hired Ole it hasn't been done yet.
We didn't do business last year because the profile of players the manager wanted didn't match the DNA of United. We got all the other players he wanted including Sanchez to complete our attack.
If it wasn't for Ed we would've lost Martial and PP too. Ed didn't have a problem to sanction world record move for a top teenager when LVG wanted Martial so he got it done.
I'm very calm over this summer and have confidence we have at least 5/6 players lined up with similar outgoings.
We didn't do business last year because the profile of players the manager wanted didn't match the DNA of United. We got all the other players he wanted including Sanchez to complete our attack.
If it wasn't for Ed we would've lost Martial and PP too. Ed didn't have a problem to sanction world record move for a top teenager when LVG wanted Martial so he got it done.
I'm very calm over this summer and have confidence we have at least 5/6 players lined up with similar outgoings.
I agree about that. I wasn't referring to you, but people moaning about same mistakes in the transfer market - it hasn't even opened.I'm talking about the structure of the club, the planning etc we were supposed to bring in DOF before we hired Ole it hasn't been done yet.