-------Martial----Rashford
-------------Griezmann
------Pogba------Herrera(c)
-----------------DM?
-------------Griezmann
------Pogba------Herrera(c)
-----------------DM?
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On the bench certainly. Never has or will be good enough to start for us. But he’s one of ours.
Always thought Griezmann would thrive here. He's full of himself, his ego is massive and he's a bit of a cnut. The swagger and arrogance of a proper Man United player.
Athletico would certainly take Sanchez. They've took Morata and Torres for fecks sake!
Athletico would certainly take Sanchez. They've took Morata and Torres for fecks sake!
4 very inconsistent players plus Griezmann. We need to do better.
Have you got a spare 1bn then?
Just stating facts. Not taking a pop at you but the reality of the situation is clear for those who want to admit it.
Herrera DM and Ndombele/Pellegrini RCM.
Herrera captain? Why because he runs a lot and occasionally snaps someone. We need better. Herrera is a reason why we lack creativity. If anything we need to sign a new CM and play Herrera at DM to rotate with Matic until Glazernomics allow us to buy another DM. Martial and Rashford inconsistent and both have real big gaps in their game. Lukaku over Rashford, he might also be inconsistent but he scores more. I would say. In reality we need two experienced attackers if we want to win the title next season. Neither Rashford or Martial have shown they are capable at the moment. Icardi+Grizi.
Agreed, consistency is key. Aguero is a fine example of the kind of striker we need. We have no experience. The experience players we have like Sanchez aren't good enough.
Want to admit what? We have got far bigger issues than replacing some.of.our better players even if you think they are inconsistent.
I'm a realist. We aren't going to replace many if any of those players this summer.
Sanchez possibly, Jones, Rojo, Matic maybe, Valencia etc. That's who we will look at upgrading.
You do know our captain doesn't need to be our most creative player right?
Signing Griezmann when they spunked 150m on Coutinho? Unless they are looking to replace Suarez? But Suarez is still looking sharp.
20 goals a season is worth 120m these days?
To be fair to him, maybe he could do more in an offensive set up.
He should also be a good player. One who starts every game. Herrera shouldnt be that player next season. For the CM spot he lacks creativity and he is never a top CM in his all round game. Thought thats pretty obvious. Clearly not.
Why would anyone want Griezmann when he's lead us a merry dance twice now? We need players who want to play for us, not players who will use us for a pay rise.
Were he to sign he would obviously want to play for us. He is a top player so it’s easy to see why people would want him. I see no reason why he would want to come though - he is the best player in an elite team. We are a sizeable step down.
I mean you could look at it like that or you can look at it from the perspective that we have a new manager who has got us playing attacking football again, getting the best out of Pogba and the majority of our squad and in the last 8 of the Champions League.
Edit: Also knows if he came he'd improve us massively
But he doesn't play for us and didn't sign after all the fuss the other summer, when he used us for a bumper new deal. If he were to move, it would be for Barca.
He also didn't go to Barcelona last summer when he was mean to be doing.
Luke Shaw is one of the highest paid LBs in the world. Lingard is paid 100k a week when he wouldn't even start for relegation level teams. We have a ton of average players. Why does it matter if we sign a top class player for 250k a week or whatever he wants? If we dont pay it, the glazers will take it. Griezmann is at the perfect age to bring quality, our attack is already young and inconsistent. This 'Youth FC' is nonsense. How old were Sir Alex's title winnng teams?
You are painting a much better picture than the truth though. Our football is not as tumescent by an stretch, but we are not a good and consistent attacking team, with things having tailed off since the initial period after Solskjaer’s appointment. Results have been absolutely terrific (especially prior to our two loses on the bounce), but luck has played a huge part in that, most obviously in the win against Tottenham in Ole’s first big game and the two recent legs against PSG. We were thoroughly outplayed and did not deserve to win, in a similar manner to our victory in Turin under Mourinho. If anyone thinks getting to the last eight of the Champions League in the way we have makes us appealing to a player like Griezmann then they are very wrong. Similarly, if anyone thinks potentially making top four is enough to convince said players that we are a team on the rise they are also mistaken. Everything is much more positive at United, but we are talking about teams and players who are simply in a better place, and who realistically will likely have - and likely be looking for - offers from other sides in a better place.
He did not. And now he’s potentially looking to leave, which allows folk to dream a little bit. If we could sign him would you not want us to? The question is entirely hypothetical. You can want him at United and still be realistic about the chances of him coming.
Correct, we probably won't. But unless these players are improved on then we won't win a major competition any time soon either. That's my point. Let's just hope that there is another level or two in each of these players because that's what we need, i just don't see it. We've seen the same problems for the last 2 or 3 years with each of them.
It cracks me up the amount people don't rate Lingard. Our play improves massively when he's fully fit. He creates so much space for everyone else to operate in.
Agreed. He's a quality player.
Give it a break. He improves shit. Players like Pogba, Rashford, Martial or even Lukaku improve our play when they are on their game and we suffer massively when they are not. Lingard pops up with a goal or assist every 10 matches and offers very little in between.
He can be a good squad player, for a starter he lacks in so many departments it's laughable. Top teams have better footballers at full backs then we have in our RW/CAM with Lingard.
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Our play improves because the only other option is Mata. Lingards output speaks for itself. Go check the statistics. He lacks the ability to take players on. This leads to him going narrow, passing sidewards and continuing his run. He is rated for doing the bare minimum a footballer should be doing. A player like Griezmann can do everything Lingard does (run a lot, a few sidepasses and finding pockets, silly dances and occasionally kicking the opposition in the shins) and do more (Finishing, crossing, taking players on, winning headers).
Complete bullshit. How can people still say this. Literally you just dont want to accept you are wrong.
Our other option isn't just Mata though, we could change formation or push different players out there.
We could go with Martial Lukaku Rashford, but it's not as effective as having Lingard in the side to make space for the others.
Griezmann is certainly an upgrade, because he has the same quality of movement with a higher end product. Put someone in there with less movement and a better end product and the team wouldn't function as well.
The Lingard argument is always a weird one to me, I don't understand how anyone can think he has no value to the squad, but equally I don't get how anyone thinks he should be a starter if we are going to try and get back to challenging for the PL rather than just top 4.
Good to hear.
Good to hear.
Lingard has movement in midfield areas but his movement on the last line is average. This is why he barely scores and when he does score its usually a banger, he doesn't have the movement to run behind defences often enough to get easy chances.
Griezmann is such a good player, scores in so many different ways and is very good in the build up as well.
Griezmann is such a good player, scores in so many different ways and is very good in the build up as well.
If better end product includes a player who can take others on, hold players off and dribble then movement isn't as important. How good is Lingards movement? Hardly ever see him running into the box. He is good at taking up positions in pockets of space. However, when it comes to goal involvement he is poor. Anyone from Sancho, Bale, Grizi, Pepe, Under and Chiesa would improve us.
Calm down, the same applies to you. You seem to struggle to accept what an average footballer Lingard is. What he brings and what he lacks is simply far away from the standard required.
That’s why managers keep picking him in big games. I never said he was world class. You said he offers little if he isn’t scoring or getting an assist. Which IS complete bullshit.
What fecking big games? The FA cup final against Crystal Palace? Or Carling Cup final against Southampton? He has had so many appalling performances in big games where he looks like an amateur. Robertson and Alexander-Arnold playing at full back for Liverpool are better footballers than him and you are drumming how he offers movement and space playing in the front 3 for Manchester United.
£100m or they will have to wait. No way should we let him leave cheap even if he's only got a year left. Madrid won't want to wait. They can't afford to with Barcelona being so good.
I would sell him for anything above £60m with his contract running down..
United should be doing what Real are doing. Just go mental in the summer. With the turn over this club has, we could easy spend loads. But we wont, because of who runs the club.
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