joedirt87
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No way. Fred is not an attacking midfielder. He's playing in the double-pivot of the 4-2-3-1.
So he would be a better fit for Mourinho
No way. Fred is not an attacking midfielder. He's playing in the double-pivot of the 4-2-3-1.
Then if he goes somewhere else and is a bit hit, it will be another one to make Jose look a bad judge of young players. By the time he retires it could be a pretty long list.
You know what it means? We are going to stop attacking altogether.Just a rehash of the articles they keep doing on our interest in Fred but now with some added Pogba spin. Not sure exactly how Fred would be a Pogba replacement
Not as long as his trophy haul I guess though. Plus come in do you think these guys KDB Salah etc would have pushed a peak Essian or Robben or even Duff out of Jose team at the time? I’m not saying these were the specific players but whoever was playing would have been right up there as Jose Chelsea teams were up there.
This. Jose usually leaves clubs in a mess so we better hope we aren’t another that falls into that category.
Timelines are completely wrong.
It’s 7 in the morning @roonster09 i did point out these were not the likely players you are not going to make me look it up lol
This. Jose usually leaves clubs in a mess so we better hope we aren’t another that falls into that category.
Usually leaves the club with an amazing set of players very much unlike what he inherited here. Plus a few shiny trophies in the cabinet.
He had a good team at Chelsea but he lost them, so they stopped playing for him. Madrid are always going to have class players. It is all about keeping your players onside. Jose has a knack to alienating them in the end.Chelsea won the league and Madrid 3 CLs. Some mess Jose has left ey.
KDB was binned in favour of Oscar...Not as long as his trophy haul I guess though. Plus come in do you think these guys KDB Salah etc would have pushed a peak Essian or Robben or even Duff out of Jose team at the time? I’m not saying these were the specific players but whoever was playing would have been right up there as Jose Chelsea teams were up there.
Yeah but still it wasn't a mess like the myth goes around.He had a good team at Chelsea but he lost them, so they stopped playing for him. Madrid are always going to have class players. It is all about keeping your players onside. Jose has a knack to alienating them in the end.
KDB was binned in favour of Oscar...
Salah barely got any playing time. Same as Cuadrado. Those guys were good before chelsea signed them, and were good immediately after leaving chelsea
Mourinho also got rid of Lukaku in favour of a like 50 year old(Mou's words, not mine) Eto'o coming out of a retirement home
His transfer record at chelsea II is full of expensive mistakes and talents let go prematurely for little reason
who was so good at the time Mourinho went and signed Salah and then Cuadrado a year apart in the same position. And if Salah was a signing for the future at the time(one Mourinho did nothing to develop), Cuadrado was certainly not. Willian didn't start to truly come good until 15/16Chelsea had Willian on the right. They won the league and no one cared about Salah. I thought he replaced Lukaku with Costa? Lukaku was initially out on loan I think.
I never really rated Oscar tbh.
That’s if he’s sacked on time. At Real, Chelsea, etc he had begun to fall out with some of their best players before he left. The likes of Ramos and Hazard would not have remained where they are had he hung around much longer. Both clubs lost plenty of top players that he simply didn’t play. He’s doing the same here. We could be losing players like Martial and Pogba if he lasts beyond next season IMO.No he doesn't, he usually leaves the, with very strong squads.
who was so good at the time Mourinho went and signed Salah and then Cuadrado a year apart in the same position. And if Salah was a signing for the future at the time(one Mourinho did nothing to develop), Cuadrado was certainly not. Willian didn't start to truly come good until 15/16
Lukaku was sent on loan with option to buy - pretty much guaranteed he'd be sold if he did well
Mourinho rated Oscar to the point he never gave KDB a chance. Apparently
But he didn't win the league when he lost Lukaku andDe Bruyne without giving them a real chance. In fact, he had to go and sign Fabregas and Diego Costa to do it. Salah and Cuadrado were barely given chances either, and i get that they still won the league in the end and neither guy lost the money, but both were signed to improve the team(who's goal wasn't only to win the league but also try and win the CL) and both failed without bein given a chance.Yes but he won the league so it' hardly a mistake. In an ideal world I am sure he would have kept the players for the following seasons but if they don't have the patience to wait for their turn then you can't criticise him for giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere.
It's a bit like the SAF/Pogba situation, except Fergie didn't have anyone better than Pogba to play in midfield at the time.
You can't criticise the decision if ultimately he wins the league.
If United dont want Martial I sure as hell hope Bayern get him, he would be the perfect heir to Ribery's throne. Maybe would have to work on his tracking back, which Ribery was fantastic at, but certainly in every other category he's great.
Juve duel with Bayern Munich for Martial
So Barca, Juve, Bayern, Madrid, PSG & Arsenal
Bidding war!
If u believe bollocks, then fine. Noway barca are in for himAnd yet some fans don't rate him on here
And yet some fans don't rate him on here
With what Conte has been saying (more confirming what was suspected than news), I wouldn't be so sure about Chelsea managers having 100% power in transfer dealings. Chelsea sending players on loan then with hindsight people say X, Y, Z could have helped is also nothing new. It predates Mourinho return and continued till this very moment for Conte. Courtois was at Atletico for at least couple years too late when Cech already started to decline hard. I kept hearing about Christensen for couple years before this seaosn and he was stuck on loan instead being utilized last season when everyone know Conte lkely play back 3 and they're short in CB number. While Azpilicuetta has been a surprising success as a side CB, it was a gamble, not something pre planned since hardly he ever played any sort of CB role before.who was so good at the time Mourinho went and signed Salah and then Cuadrado a year apart in the same position. And if Salah was a signing for the future at the time(one Mourinho did nothing to develop), Cuadrado was certainly not. Willian didn't start to truly come good until 15/16
Lukaku was sent on loan with option to buy - pretty much guaranteed he'd be sold if he did well
Mourinho rated Oscar to the point he never gave KDB a chance. Apparently
One mans coal is another mans gold / many reasons why too. The biggest stumbling block is that we may not be able to guarantee him regular game time.And yet some fans don't rate him on here
I think that's the real cause of dissatisfaction rather than criticisms regarding the manager's playing style, etc, and it makes more sense than the rumors regarding Pogba, as Martial wasn't Jose's acquisition to begin with. Like you I'd have him playing at present, and have a real fear that he'll come good ( al a, Salah, KDB, etc. ) once getting consistent game time.One mans coal is another mans gold / many reasons why too. The biggest stumbling block is that we may not be able to guarantee him regular game time.
Personally I’d have him over Sanchez at the moment
I think that's the real cause of dissatisfaction rather than criticisms regarding the manager's playing style, etc, and it makes more sense than the rumors regarding Pogba, as Martial wasn't Jose's acquisition to begin with. Like you I'd have him playing at present, and have a real fear that he'll come good ( al a, Salah, KDB, etc. ) once getting consistent game time.
That's part of his problem, his work rate isn't high enough for the role United want him to play. He's never going to be a Ribery. He's more of a luxury player than him.
A MOTM performance in the EL final and admirably filling in for an injured Pogba at the beginning of the season were enough to convince me of his quality, but apparently that wasn't enough for most fans.Cant wait for Fellaini to leave, first step to improvement