Transfer Tweets - 2017/18

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Then if he goes somewhere else and is a bit hit, it will be another one to make Jose look a bad judge of young players. By the time he retires it could be a pretty long list.

Not as long as his trophy haul I guess though. Plus come in do you think these guys KDB Salah etc would have pushed a peak Essian or Robben or even Duff out of Jose team at the time? I’m not saying these were the specific players but whoever was playing would have been right up there as Jose Chelsea teams were up there.
 
Not as long as his trophy haul I guess though. Plus come in do you think these guys KDB Salah etc would have pushed a peak Essian or Robben or even Duff out of Jose team at the time? I’m not saying these were the specific players but whoever was playing would have been right up there as Jose Chelsea teams were up there.

Timelines are completely wrong.
 
This. Jose usually leaves clubs in a mess so we better hope we aren’t another that falls into that category.

Usually leaves the club with an amazing set of players very much unlike what he inherited here. Plus a few shiny trophies in the cabinet.
 
It’s 7 in the morning @roonster09 i did point out these were not the likely players you are not going to make me look it up lol

The players you mentioned played during Jose's first stint. Salah, KdB, Lukaku were all during his second stint.
 
Chelsea won the league and Madrid 3 CLs. Some mess Jose has left ey.
He had a good team at Chelsea but he lost them, so they stopped playing for him. Madrid are always going to have class players. It is all about keeping your players onside. Jose has a knack to alienating them in the end.
 
Not as long as his trophy haul I guess though. Plus come in do you think these guys KDB Salah etc would have pushed a peak Essian or Robben or even Duff out of Jose team at the time? I’m not saying these were the specific players but whoever was playing would have been right up there as Jose Chelsea teams were up there.
KDB was binned in favour of Oscar...

Salah barely got any playing time. Same as Cuadrado. Those guys were good before chelsea signed them, and were good immediately after leaving chelsea

Mourinho also got rid of Lukaku in favour of a like 50 year old(Mou's words, not mine) Eto'o coming out of a retirement home

His transfer record at chelsea II is full of expensive mistakes and talents let go prematurely for little reason
 
If United dont want Martial I sure as hell hope Bayern get him, he would be the perfect heir to Ribery's throne. Maybe would have to work on his tracking back, which Ribery was fantastic at, but certainly in every other category he's great.
 
He had a good team at Chelsea but he lost them, so they stopped playing for him. Madrid are always going to have class players. It is all about keeping your players onside. Jose has a knack to alienating them in the end.
Yeah but still it wasn't a mess like the myth goes around.
 
KDB was binned in favour of Oscar...

Salah barely got any playing time. Same as Cuadrado. Those guys were good before chelsea signed them, and were good immediately after leaving chelsea

Mourinho also got rid of Lukaku in favour of a like 50 year old(Mou's words, not mine) Eto'o coming out of a retirement home

His transfer record at chelsea II is full of expensive mistakes and talents let go prematurely for little reason

Chelsea had Willian on the right. They won the league and no one cared about Salah. I thought he replaced Lukaku with Costa? Lukaku was initially out on loan I think.

I never really rated Oscar tbh.
 
Chelsea had Willian on the right. They won the league and no one cared about Salah. I thought he replaced Lukaku with Costa? Lukaku was initially out on loan I think.

I never really rated Oscar tbh.
who was so good at the time Mourinho went and signed Salah and then Cuadrado a year apart in the same position. And if Salah was a signing for the future at the time(one Mourinho did nothing to develop), Cuadrado was certainly not. Willian didn't start to truly come good until 15/16

Lukaku was sent on loan with option to buy - pretty much guaranteed he'd be sold if he did well

Mourinho rated Oscar to the point he never gave KDB a chance. Apparently
 
No he doesn't, he usually leaves the, with very strong squads.
That’s if he’s sacked on time. At Real, Chelsea, etc he had begun to fall out with some of their best players before he left. The likes of Ramos and Hazard would not have remained where they are had he hung around much longer. Both clubs lost plenty of top players that he simply didn’t play. He’s doing the same here. We could be losing players like Martial and Pogba if he lasts beyond next season IMO.

There’s no doubt Jose is a short term a manger and doesn’t lay the blocks for future success at the clubs he leaves. Just because they might win the league just after he leaves doesn’t mean they are all set in the long run.
 
who was so good at the time Mourinho went and signed Salah and then Cuadrado a year apart in the same position. And if Salah was a signing for the future at the time(one Mourinho did nothing to develop), Cuadrado was certainly not. Willian didn't start to truly come good until 15/16

Lukaku was sent on loan with option to buy - pretty much guaranteed he'd be sold if he did well

Mourinho rated Oscar to the point he never gave KDB a chance. Apparently

Yes but he won the league so it' hardly a mistake. In an ideal world I am sure he would have kept the players for the following seasons but if they don't have the patience to wait for their turn then you can't criticise him for giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere.

It's a bit like the SAF/Pogba situation, except Fergie didn't have anyone better than Pogba to play in midfield at the time.

You can't criticise the decision if ultimately he wins the league.
 


Reuben Neves coming to Liverpool. Talisca as a substitute for the Wolves. The pieces are moving in the market. To see


No idea of reliability but would be annoying to see Liverpool sign Neves with Keita coming in also.
 
Yes but he won the league so it' hardly a mistake. In an ideal world I am sure he would have kept the players for the following seasons but if they don't have the patience to wait for their turn then you can't criticise him for giving them the opportunity to play elsewhere.

It's a bit like the SAF/Pogba situation, except Fergie didn't have anyone better than Pogba to play in midfield at the time.

You can't criticise the decision if ultimately he wins the league.
But he didn't win the league when he lost Lukaku andDe Bruyne without giving them a real chance. In fact, he had to go and sign Fabregas and Diego Costa to do it. Salah and Cuadrado were barely given chances either, and i get that they still won the league in the end and neither guy lost the money, but both were signed to improve the team(who's goal wasn't only to win the league but also try and win the CL) and both failed without bein given a chance.
 
If United dont want Martial I sure as hell hope Bayern get him, he would be the perfect heir to Ribery's throne. Maybe would have to work on his tracking back, which Ribery was fantastic at, but certainly in every other category he's great.

That's part of his problem, his work rate isn't high enough for the role United want him to play. He's never going to be a Ribery. He's more of a luxury player than him.
 
who was so good at the time Mourinho went and signed Salah and then Cuadrado a year apart in the same position. And if Salah was a signing for the future at the time(one Mourinho did nothing to develop), Cuadrado was certainly not. Willian didn't start to truly come good until 15/16

Lukaku was sent on loan with option to buy - pretty much guaranteed he'd be sold if he did well

Mourinho rated Oscar to the point he never gave KDB a chance. Apparently
With what Conte has been saying (more confirming what was suspected than news), I wouldn't be so sure about Chelsea managers having 100% power in transfer dealings. Chelsea sending players on loan then with hindsight people say X, Y, Z could have helped is also nothing new. It predates Mourinho return and continued till this very moment for Conte. Courtois was at Atletico for at least couple years too late when Cech already started to decline hard. I kept hearing about Christensen for couple years before this seaosn and he was stuck on loan instead being utilized last season when everyone know Conte lkely play back 3 and they're short in CB number. While Azpilicuetta has been a surprising success as a side CB, it was a gamble, not something pre planned since hardly he ever played any sort of CB role before.



Fellaini must have read CAF...
 
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Keita and Neves in midfield next season replacing Henderson and Can?

Liverpool are going to be a seriously massive title threat. Makes me sick.
 
And yet some fans don't rate him on here :rolleyes:
One mans coal is another mans gold / many reasons why too. The biggest stumbling block is that we may not be able to guarantee him regular game time.

Personally I’d have him over Sanchez at the moment
 
One mans coal is another mans gold / many reasons why too. The biggest stumbling block is that we may not be able to guarantee him regular game time.

Personally I’d have him over Sanchez at the moment
I think that's the real cause of dissatisfaction rather than criticisms regarding the manager's playing style, etc, and it makes more sense than the rumors regarding Pogba, as Martial wasn't Jose's acquisition to begin with. Like you I'd have him playing at present, and have a real fear that he'll come good ( al a, Salah, KDB, etc. ) once getting consistent game time.
 
I think that's the real cause of dissatisfaction rather than criticisms regarding the manager's playing style, etc, and it makes more sense than the rumors regarding Pogba, as Martial wasn't Jose's acquisition to begin with. Like you I'd have him playing at present, and have a real fear that he'll come good ( al a, Salah, KDB, etc. ) once getting consistent game time.

Yep. I kinda wish we hadn’t picked up Sanchez. I mean I know he’s an experienced game changer but I think it’s upset the applecart a little bringing him in
 
That's part of his problem, his work rate isn't high enough for the role United want him to play. He's never going to be a Ribery. He's more of a luxury player than him.

That certainly depends on the coach, Ribery was also called out for his lack of work rate by Van Gaal but that was only because he didn't get along with him and therefore didn't put in the effort that was required. You then look at him, and Robben, under Heynkes/Pep and they played completely differently.

Though there are some players who will not consistently put in the effort required, for others its a mental block that you have to remove and then those players will work hard.

Though Heynkes will not remain Bayern's manager next season and it is unsure how the players will react to Niko Kovac, I would still pull out the cheque book for him because he is extremely talented.
 
Cant wait for Fellaini to leave, first step to improvement
A MOTM performance in the EL final and admirably filling in for an injured Pogba at the beginning of the season were enough to convince me of his quality, but apparently that wasn't enough for most fans.
 
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