Transfer speculation

Nesta would work anywhere
he's a super-champion

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He's a super overrated Itie prick. I wouldn't have him serving Zucchini on my stall.!
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Originally posted by Cockneyred:
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He's a super overrated Itie prick. I wouldn't have him serving Zucchini on my stall.!</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's not very nice now is it? Talk football in our sensible thread instead of being such a confortational cockney prick!

Ok!
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Originally posted by Sinders:
<strong>What's your opinion on the subject WeasteDevil. The best all-around player Beckham or Scholes?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Beckham is far more valuable to the team. A friend of mine that supports Barça thinks that if put in the middle of the park would be the best player in the world. He calls Beckham a "Crack", meaning someone who can change the result of a game at will. In his opinion, neither Giggs or Scholes are "Cracks", only Beckham. Giggs and Scholes for him are World Class, but not "Cracks".

In some ways I agree with him, and in other ways not, but if it came to the crunch, then yes, when Beckham is on form, his passes are out of this world - he is the best long range passer I have ever seen.

Ok, this is one reason why many think that he should play in midfield, but with Keane there would you want to swap? We have a mass of riches in our midfield, to the extent that it is quite unbelievable.

Name me any other club in the world that has a midfield close to ours? None!

And if someone says Real Madrid I'm going to get my baseball bat out. Because they are nowhere near. ;)
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Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>From Red News


This comes from a reader with some good sources. Make of it what you will. It's speculation. But nice speculation.

'I don’t know how much of it is true but ********* said at the beginning of the summer Ferguson met the board regarding possible signings and was told that there was £45 million to spend and any money re-couped by player sales would also be available for transfers.

Ferguson said he would be prepared to let Fortune and Yorke go and the board discussed fees of around £4 million for Fortune and £6 million for Yorke and Ferguson identified the fact that he felt he needed four players with Irwin, Johnson and the other two first teamers above leaving. Ferguson was apparently asked about Veron and he simply stated that yes if it meant he got one of his main priorities he would let him go.

Ferguson gave a list of players indicating his first choices that he hoped the club could sign and then alternatives;

Rio Ferdinand was detailed as the number 1 target as a centre defender and it was agreed that if the signing was to be made it would be done before the end of July.

Damien Duff: Ferguson has been after him for over a year and the board are monitoring his situation and will compete with anyone for his signature. Ferguson can see him in the Giggs role or upfront with Van Nistelrooy – another priority signing and Yorke would go to Blackburn as part of the deal as Blackburn have bid £4 million for him during the World Cup.

Ronaldinho: Fergusons brother has been to watch him a couple of times and Ferguson indicated during the World Cup that he wanted him. He sees him as the ideal replacement in the Sheringham role and believes we have a good chance of luring him – The board felt PSG would be prepared to sell for around £25 million and an offer will be made soon.

The fourth player was Wayne Bridge: Ferguson has monitored him throughout last season and United made enquiries in May, and were flatly turned away however United feel a concrete offer could make them change there mind.

Other players discussed:
Rustu Recbar: Fergusons brother had been out to watch him three times and the board agreed that if they could sign him for around £4 million then he would be a good investment for the 2003/04 season when Barthez had indicated he would go back to France, however Ferguson agreed to wait until after the World Cup to see how he performed, Ferguson was impressed but after the World Cup Fenerbache said they would not be interested in selling and put a price of £10 million on him.

Nesta – Ferguson had been monitoring him and Cannavaro since Euro 2000 and it was felt that with Lazios' financial difficulties, this summer would be a good time to try and sign him, however his agent has made it clear that Nesta would not be prepared to move to any English club and therefore United have made no further enquiries.

Steve Finnan: A defender that Ferguson admires. If Southampton say no to Bridge. United will move in for him and they think they can get him for around £5 million.

Sorin: Another player that Ferguson has monitored for a couple of years and was one of his priorities as he can play in midfield as well, however Lazio were very quick to sign him and that deal is dead.

Ronaldo: Inter Milan offered Ronaldo to United 6 months ago for £15 million but United were not interested, however Ferguson believes that Ronaldo is unhappy at Inter and they are annoyed at his constant travelling back to Brazil for treatment and the way he prepared for the World Cup and for the right price United would now be interested

D’Alessandro – I think that’s his name. Young Argentine, plays in Argentina and Ferguson is prepared to wait to get him as he is a long term prospect and his club have priced him at £12 million. Will let him stay there until next season provided no one else comes in with a bid

Djbril Cisse – Another Ferguson is prepared to wait for but the board are unsure as to how many other clubs are interested after the world cup and may have to miss out on him – however his club have assured United that they want to keep him one more year and will not sell until next summer.

No bids for any players had been made yet and the board are really concentrating on the main four, with only a couple of the other players even being possibilities. Hopefully ******* is right as they are some pretty tasty players.

Keep up the site it is superb'</strong><hr></blockquote>
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I think Man utd should buy Rio Ferdinand because he is a world class player and add to that man utd are short of defenders.

any comment, can just write to me!!!
 
No arguement there. You are quite right. I just feel Nesta is better though as a partner for Blanc and overall ;)
 
Originally posted by Cockneyred:
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He's a super overrated Itie prick. I wouldn't have him serving Zucchini on my stall.!</strong><hr></blockquote>

He is indeed overrated and would more than likely not fit in at United and in Manchester in general. The guy is Lazio through and through and will not work in the Premiership. Ferdinand is a much better choice, as he's already tried and tested, is English, would be a Rock at United for up to a decade, whereas Nesta would bolt back to Serie-A in a year or two.
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WeasteDevil is suggesting we sell Scholes - an idea I had put forward sometime ago on this forum but only in a part swap deal for Ferdinand. Give that idea to Ridsdale and he would jump at it. I think this is the only way we're going to get Rio unless he tells Leeds he wants to leave which seems unlikely since the arrival of ElTel, under whose dubious spell he seems to be.

Having said that I do not want to see Scholes go as I think he has everything - far more allround talent than Veron who I would be far happier to get rid of. Unfortunately JSV would not agree to go to Leeds.

So if we keep Veron and heavens knows what long term future he has at United, then how do we fit Butt and Scholes into the picture to avoid the morale sapping selection and tactical shambles of last season? Hence and very reluctantly, offer Paul to Leeds in part exchange for the much needed Rio
 
Bad Idea. Scholes is too improtant to be sold. He is guranted d to have at least 10 goa,ls a season in all competitions whic is vital. Besides he gives depth in quality to our squad. My view uis hat United should field different line ups in midfield more regualrly in the prem. especially versus the smaller teams. So that our a and B midfield can all fight faitl for midweek champions league starting places
 
I think the line may be breaking up there Kemo
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But I get your drift. ;)

Personally, I think, and I know I'm gonna get shot down, if any of the 4 midfield players should be moved on it's Keane.

He's definately not right at the moment. His barbed criticisms of his team mates and his bust up at the WC. There's something going on.

He and Veron don't seem to get on. And Keane is over 30 - the others are reaching (or still to reach) their peak. Butt has also come of age (so to speak) and come into his own on the biggest stage of all and plays the defensive midfield well with Veron.
 
Talk of us selling any of our midfielders especially Scholes is just absurd. Scholes is our homegrown worldclass talent and SAF will not sell or trade him for anyone else, not even for Totti or Ronaldo. Veron may or may not leave depending on the Rio transfer. Since we need more than 40M for the transfer if we are to buy Rio and a couple others we will need to sell. But this Rio issue is dragging on for too long. It is holding up the signing of others. The outcome of the CD choice will dictate how much we have to spend on the others, that's why we haven't sign anybody yet. IMO SAF will not go beyond nextweek for Rio, since we can not go into the new season underarmed with 4-5 less senior players than last year. Having read hundreds of transfer news for the past 3-4 mnths, apparently it will be Rio, or Thuram who is the backup choice. Like it or not, but it's the most probable. Nesta doesn't want to come and Ayala-Hofland rumours are dead.
 
You are right in a way. Bt our over reliance on our captains presence means it can never happen. :(
so Veron will just have to adapt :)
 
Nesta will come if we ant him. He won't have much of a choice in the matter since Lazio have to sale and as yet buyers have run out save for us :D
 
Nesta not wanting to play in England + Lazio wanting a REALLY big offer = Nesta not coming - sorry Kemo :)
 
Beckham is not good enough to play in midfield regardless of what anyone in fecking Barcelona says,he belongs on the wing
 
Also if you sell Keane you might as well say goodbye to the championship for a few years
 
Originally posted by benny:
<strong>Also if you sell Keane you might as well say goodbye to the championship for a few years</strong><hr></blockquote>

So I guess we won't be winning any trophies for several years after he retires then. Or else Butt will have to step in take over.
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