Transfer speculation
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Keep Seba for one more year.
He´s a bloody brilliant player on form and I´d give him one more chance.
He´s a bloody brilliant player on form and I´d give him one more chance.
Scholes out then? 
Weaste, mate, honestly I don't know if selling Scholesis the best solution.
I'm not saying we should keep him anywats since for mealso this year he's .......been below par.
Right now I'mnot sure that Veron is our man......although I may agree that if we can't sell him at the price we paid we'd better keephim
also if,similarly to the stockmarket, the idea of holding shares when they go down is feasible until they don'tmakeyou loose all your money
I'm not saying we should keep him anywats since for mealso this year he's .......been below par.
Right now I'mnot sure that Veron is our man......although I may agree that if we can't sell him at the price we paid we'd better keephim
also if,similarly to the stockmarket, the idea of holding shares when they go down is feasible until they don'tmakeyou loose all your money
I think you guys are underrating Scholes. Whenever there's a "who has to go in the midfield" or "who is the most dispensable in the midfield" type of discussion, it's always Scholes who gets picked. This guy is one of the best footballers in our midfield, has great long and short passing, has a great shot, etc etc, I rate him maybe even more important than some of the other more "famous" midfielders in our squad (won't name them to avoid the discussion branching off).
In an interview, Ruud named Scholes along with Giggs as the best player he's ever played with. Cruijf recently named Scholes as his ONLY favorite in the England squad, he said that Scholes is a great footballer in an admiring way.
It's gotta tell you something about the true worth of Scholes. And don't say you know all this and appreciate him but STILL think there's no other way but to get rid of him, because if you did, you wouldn't name him as the prominent name to sell. If one has to go it's Veron, not Scholes. I'm one of the few who still truly supports Veron and believes he will have great years coming (for us hopefully), but if I had the choice, it's DEFINITELY not Scholes making way for him.
In an interview, Ruud named Scholes along with Giggs as the best player he's ever played with. Cruijf recently named Scholes as his ONLY favorite in the England squad, he said that Scholes is a great footballer in an admiring way.
It's gotta tell you something about the true worth of Scholes. And don't say you know all this and appreciate him but STILL think there's no other way but to get rid of him, because if you did, you wouldn't name him as the prominent name to sell. If one has to go it's Veron, not Scholes. I'm one of the few who still truly supports Veron and believes he will have great years coming (for us hopefully), but if I had the choice, it's DEFINITELY not Scholes making way for him.
Giggs out then, and Duff in?
Still doesn't solve the 4 into 2 problem we have in central midfield.
Still doesn't solve the 4 into 2 problem we have in central midfield.
Originally posted by ryangiggsisno1:
<strong>Weaste, mate, honestly I don't know if selling Scholesis the best solution.
I'm not saying we should keep him anywats since for mealso this year he's .......been below par.
Right now I'mnot sure that Veron is our man......although I may agree that if we can't sell him at the price we paid we'd better keephim
also if,similarly to the stockmarket, the idea of holding shares when they go down is feasible until they don'tmakeyou loose all your money</strong><hr></blockquote>
So what is the solution RG?
It is totally crazy to keep one of them on the bench!
But thinking about it, maybe Veron is too much of a maverick to do us any good.
Sell Veron for a loss and keep a very underperfoming Scholes or vice versa?
One thing is for sure in my mind, one ofe them, be it Verón, Scholes, Butt, or Keane has to go.
No one doubts their ability and how they can turn a match for us but:
-We have 4 excellent players for 2 CM spots who cannot really play anywhere else.
-We have two brilliant players for two wings with no decent backup.
-We have two prolific strikers who need a pacey/skillful support frontman who could do as proven backup as well.
Our options in midfield are totally unbalanced. Either Scholes or Veron stands out as surplus to our needs. I am happy for them to stay if SAF is feeling rich but I would like to see something done about the wings and the support for RVN and OGS. If we need to sell one of those two (JSV or PS) to get that then we should, however painful it is.
Giggs is not the least injury prone player around and Beckham's fitness could be suspect, we can't tell how he will come back. United with no play in the wings is not United, we looked clueless in Leverkusen just going straight through the middle and smashing the ball into defenders. Without playing on the wings we might as well play long ball...
I know SAF will get it just right, whatever he does, I'm just anxious to see what that will be.
-We have 4 excellent players for 2 CM spots who cannot really play anywhere else.
-We have two brilliant players for two wings with no decent backup.
-We have two prolific strikers who need a pacey/skillful support frontman who could do as proven backup as well.
Our options in midfield are totally unbalanced. Either Scholes or Veron stands out as surplus to our needs. I am happy for them to stay if SAF is feeling rich but I would like to see something done about the wings and the support for RVN and OGS. If we need to sell one of those two (JSV or PS) to get that then we should, however painful it is.
Giggs is not the least injury prone player around and Beckham's fitness could be suspect, we can't tell how he will come back. United with no play in the wings is not United, we looked clueless in Leverkusen just going straight through the middle and smashing the ball into defenders. Without playing on the wings we might as well play long ball...
I know SAF will get it just right, whatever he does, I'm just anxious to see what that will be.
what makes me doubt about JSV is his mental profile. I've seen him too many times playing a game on his own....he's the kind of lone wolf ....also at Lazio he was playing some great games but mainly as a soloist, genial, unusual, single player.
It could also happen that Scholes returns to his glorious standards once JSV is not on the pitch....it could well happen.
Keane.....is clearly out of the question
and Butt has showed the world what he can do, in this last WC,soI say keep him.
today....I'd sell Veron......and probably tomorrow I'd repent.....like it always happens...
It could also happen that Scholes returns to his glorious standards once JSV is not on the pitch....it could well happen.
Keane.....is clearly out of the question
and Butt has showed the world what he can do, in this last WC,soI say keep him.
today....I'd sell Veron......and probably tomorrow I'd repent.....like it always happens...
Not to be disrespectful to Bayer Leverkusen, their goalkeeper played an absolute blinder to get them to the European Cup final.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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One thing is for sure in my mind, one ofe them, be it Verón, Scholes, Butt, or Keane has to go.
Took a while writing that above and hadn't read this.
I can't see Butt or Keane being the ones to pick. Both of them have done the business so you end up selling a performer to keep two underperformers. Both Butt and Keane can "take care" of the defensive work in midfield pretty much by themselves, which is priceless (just look at Pool buying ever man and his granny hoping they will get "the next Vieira", we don't need the next Vieira!).
If any of them is leaving it's Scholes or Veron.
on this I disagree ....strongly
Nesta would work anywhere
he's a super-champion
and Bayer....I've spoken about them so often that you should know how much I rate their team
and I started in unsuspecte dtimes
Nesta would work anywhere
he's a super-champion
and Bayer....I've spoken about them so often that you should know how much I rate their team
and I started in unsuspecte dtimes
Nesta can play on Saturn......as well
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Ok, but we were without Beckam, Keane, and G Neville for that game remember.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Originally posted by antohan:
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I agree with you, but if we keep Giggs and Beckham where do we play Duff?
Originally posted by antohan:
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I agree with you, but if we keep Giggs and Beckham where do we play Duff?
Beckham moving to the centre is certainly better than Scholes moving to the right. Isn't it?[/QB][/QUOTE]
Yeah but let's be honest if you were to honestly compare each players attributes, skill level in each area of the game, Scholes would come out on top imo.
Yeah but let's be honest if you were to honestly compare each players attributes, skill level in each area of the game, Scholes would come out on top imo.
I generally don't comment about the fees/wages in this market....they are completely out of control and sort of unlinked imo with what could be reasonable parameters
I really don't know...
I really don't know...
Originally posted by Sinders:
<strong>Yeah but let's be honest if you were to honestly compare each players attributes, skill level in each area of the game, Scholes would come out on top imo.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ohhhh, now you're pushing it a bit!
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Ohhhh, now you're pushing it a bit!
Speaking the truth.
I have to pop out, as I do not have any of those dirty cancer sticks that I like to let smoulder when in my mouth! <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
What's your opinion on the subject WeasteDevil. The best all-around player Beckham or Scholes?
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>I have to pop out, as I do not have any of those dirty cancer sticks that I like to let smoulder when in my mouth! <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> I just got back from getting some too.