Aye, very much what I told Balu. Cocu left and Simeone right both going box to box. Simeone as some sort of anchor/holding midfielder is as wasted/underused as Keane would be.
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Aye, very much what I told Balu. Cocu left and Simeone right both going box to box. Simeone as some sort of anchor/holding midfielder is as wasted/underused as Keane would be.
Done. It would be nice if you gave me the million back, that you stole from me
.It is, sorry about that!
Think that was my main contribution there, the rest was mostly crappy. Although he persevered with Alves when I probably wouldn't have. Good call though, if you go with that formation you can't skim on critical roles and Alves' clearly is.You did? I must have missed that. That was the idea when I still had Keane and talked about Schweinsteiger on the other side, not sure why I ever changed it. I agree, I like the two box 2 box midfielders flanking Veron formation best. Thanks @Gio as well.
Done. It would be nice if you gave me the million back, that you stole from me
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- rpitroda - 11 players D. Beckham 40M, J. Terry 34m, G. Neville 32m, R. Keane (Abidal (25m)+ 35m) R. V. Nistelrooy 25m, S. Hyppia 14m, Pedro>>> Ljungberg, Reina 10m, G. V. Bronckhorst 10m, Y. Toure 29m, C. Tevez 10m, (S. Aguero 10m -> 10m = 26m.
Annahmoss - 11 players Xavi 66M, Busquets 54M, Iniesta 89M (from paceme), Neymar 12m(from GG) D.Silva 18m, Valdes(Dida>Edgar) 10m, Dante 10M , Boateng 10m, Lewandowski 10M, Zabaleta 10M Capdevila 10M= 1M
VivaJanuzaj - 11 players Van der Sar 15M, Piszczek 10M, Seedorf 35M, Enrique 38M, Giggs 65M, Jaap Stam 40M, Rui Costa(30M from Aldo), E.Petit 10M, F. de Boer 14M, Alaba 20m, Vieri 10m = 13M
Pippa - 11 players Pires 32M + Figo 71M + Adriano 10M + Cole 34M + Baraja 10M + Silva 49M + Salgado 10M + Ayala 29M + César 10M + Albelda 10M + Eto'o 24M (sold for 16M) + Helguera 12m(sold for 11m) + Albertini 15M = 11m left
Gandalf - 11 players Casillas 19m, Vidic 43m, Adriano 19m, Cambiasso 29M, Ballack 39M, Zidane 71m, Cavani 10m, Zlatan 15m, (Neymar-10->12m), Baines 10m, Valencia 10m, Hummels 12m = 25M left.
Fergus - 10 players Ronaldo 95m, Zanetti 50m, Angel di Maria 15m, Kompany 20m, (Raul sold 30M--> 15m) Del Piero 25M, Toldo 12M, Alba 13M, Martinez 23m Gundogan 10M Goetze 10M = 12M
Cutch - 11 players Buffon 15m, Thuram 50m, Nesta 60m, Chiellini 30m, Joaquin 10m Ivan De La Pena 10m, Guardiola 39m, Mendieta 34m, Kily Gonzalez 10m, Juan Roman Riquelme 27m, Raul 15m = 300m (0m left)
kps 88 - 8 players Cech 10M Carlos 42m R. Carvalho 34M Gerrard 42 Davids 45 Villa 12m Torres 10m Sousa 14m = 94m
paceme - 12 players Iniesta (70=>89M), Robben 30M, Messi (115m), Gammara (20m), Jeremies (14m), Ljungberg 20m >>>Pedro, Scholl 22m, Samuel 22m, Lopez 10m, ivanovic 14m, Schweinsteiger 40m, Pessotto 10m, =2m
MJJ - 11 players Nedved (60m), Sagna (10m) Ronaldo(102m) DDG(10m) Shearer(25m), Varane 10m, Felipe Luis 10m, Emerson 12m, Rooney 34m,Marquez 14m, Fabregas 12m = 1m
Edgar - 12 players Drogba 35m, Lahm 45m, Zambrotta 30m, Dida 10m(Valdes>Annah), Gattuso 35m, Pirlo 55m, Sergio Ramos 16m, Andersson 12m, Malouda 10m, Heinze 10m, Kaka 22m (+4m) , Marchisio 10M = 10m
Crappy - 11 players Ronaldinho (70m), Scholes(55m), P.Montero(27m), D.Alves(32m), Peruzzi (10m), Ribery(40m), Sorin(12m), Van Persie(10m), De Rossi(22m), Helguera(11m) Naybet 10M = 1m
Aldo - 11 players Rio Ferdinand 48m, Hazard 10m, Puyol 24m, Courtois 10m, Henry 55m, Makelele 32m, Rui Costa (34M-->30M to VivaJ), Vieira 53m, [Eto'o + (6m + 4m) = (Kaka 33m sales to Edgar), Kroos 10m, Sergi 12M, Ferrer 12M = 3m (+4m conditional)
Balu - 11 players Verón (31m), Neuer (15m), Abidal (Keane (65m) - 35m), Sagnol (28m), Crespo (17m), Simeone (22m), Cannavaro (45m), Cocu (18m), Overmars (15m) C. López 10M Materazzi 14M = 54m
NoPace - 10 players Bale (25m), Evra (28m), X Alonso (28m), Suarez 20m, Essien 24m, Sol Campbell 25m, Lampard 20 S Aguero 10m Totti 15M Pique 10M = 95m
Pol/Theon - 10 players Lucio (26m), Marcelo (21m) Cafú (52m) Rivaldo (69m), Lloris (10m) Modric (18m) Gallas (12m) Vidal (25m), Shevchenko (31) Muller (20m) = 16m
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Pedro has been swapped for ljungberg.
When I said Simeone was wasted? You mentioned that earlier to Cutch. The 2 B2B2 either side was indeed something I went on about on here and via PM when you still ahd Keane, but nothing really changed, just them B2Bs. Verón is still at the centre of it, as he should be.
----------Messi----------
Pedro----Scholl----Robben
-Schweinsteiger-Jeremies
Pessotto-----------Ivanovic
---Gammara-Samuel------
---------Lopez-------------
Done.
Pedro----Scholl----Robben
-Schweinsteiger-Jeremies
Pessotto-----------Ivanovic
---Gammara-Samuel------
---------Lopez-------------
Done.
Probably missunderstood something along the way. I think I showed you a formation with Simeone holding and Cocu next to Veron and you said I should switch Simeone and Cocu around, but I get easily confused, so it could all by my fault
. Glad that we all agree what's best now.Think you are both better off there.
I wonder how absolutely terrible this would all be without transfers, yet no one wanted them or wanted some really convoluted system for them... The entire draft has been shady deals in the background, love it.
I've been in touch with most managers and it has been really interesting seeing how emerging worries and areas for improvements started naturally finding their match/willing counterpart. Great to watch. As I mentioned before, spent my entire degree complaining about rationality assumptions and went down the route of behavioural economics with experiments and stuff. This has been great fun to have a bird's eye view of, brilliant experiment.
I'd show the back four as a back four tbh.
And Samuel is a leftie, no idea how many times we need to say that.
Probably missunderstood something along the way. I think I showed you a formation with Simeone holding and Cocu next to Veron and you said I should switch Simeone and Cocu around, but I get easily confused, so it could all by my fault
Oh yeah, but that was some sort of diamond or XMAS tree, no?
In any case, if you want either holding it's Cocu but you are better off with them two going B2B either side of Verón. Absolutely cracking midfield.
I'd show the back four as a back four tbh.
And Samuel is a leftie, no idea how many times we need to say that.
That's just for formatting. Back four ends up in a vertical line otherwise.
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I'm on my phone so the box is too small. Fussy cnut.
Alves is up there with Carlos as the best modern attacking full back ever. Carlos scored more while alves creates more. His assist stats are crazy for a full back.
Feel much better now with my team!
Without having looked at them particularly carefully, I agree with you. Aldo's team is strong but there's others that have leapt out at me more. Crappy's looks great for instance.
Indeed. I was very wary because you were starting to get very tight with funds, but you did well in persevering and getting him. I would have probably chickened out and gone Zabaleta or Maggio, but saving 15-20M would result in the entire flank going a bit meh.
Good call.
I was clear that I needed one of Evra or Alves to make that formation work. I thought Evra could go higher so left him and Alves is better than him anyway. Am glad I got him for 32 now after seeing 34m for Maicon. Some did say that at his peak Maicon was better than Alves. There is some truth to that, defensively he certainly was and was very good going forward as well. Scored some spectacular goals for Inter. Generally a lot of people still prefer defensive solidarity in defenders first so I can see why many would vouch for a peak Maicon. Even though I think a genuine argument can be made that Bale showed that Maicon would struggle against conventional wingers. He never faced any good ones while at Inter. I can only think of Mancini from that time who he may have faced when the former was at Roma. Anyway, coming back to Alves, he essential plays the role of a playmaker from full back positions. He showed that at both Barca and Sevilla.
I think Alves offers far more than Evra at the other end and Sorín is absolutely perfect for 3-4-3.
The only shame in getting Alves (which I had in the back of my mind) is it won't make sense to try replicate the Argie 3-4-3 with Sorín and Zanetti. That was one of the best and international sides in the last couple of decades, shame they peaked early They played football the way it is meant to be played, defending like lions and hitting you hardest, none of this possession bore you to death bullshit.
The only shame in getting Alves (which I had in the back of my mind) is it won't make sense to try replicate the Argie 3-4-3 with Sorín and Zanetti. That was one of the best and international sides in the last couple of decades, shame they peaked early
They played football the way it is meant to be played, defending like lions and hitting you hardest, none of this possession bore you to death bullshit.I was thinking about this earlier actually. I have a feeling Alves reputation is going to go way up when he retires. His output and offensive threat is almost unparalleled for a full back. He was awesome for Sevilla as well, so people can't really throw the 'system was tailor-made for him' argument around either.
True, pretty much ran his own show at Sevilla in what probably is their most successful period ever, or at least in my lifetime.
Indeed. A few seasons ago I really thought he was not great but he has prospered in recent years, especially under Martino. I say that because under Martino Barca are a little bit more direct and Alves gets just that little more space and chances to show what he really can do.
Current Team:
Goal Keeper:
Pepe Reina (10m)
Defenders:
Gary Neville (32m)
John Terry (34m)
Sami Hyppia (14m)
Giovanni Van Bronckhorst (10m)
Midfielders:
Roy Keane (60m effective cost)
Yaya Toure (29m)
David Beckham (40m)
Fredrik Ljungberg (10m effective cost)
Potential: Deco (15m)
Forwards:
Ruud Van Nistelrooy (25m)
Carlos Tevez (10m)
Total Spent: 289m
Balance Budget: 11m
How does this look now compared to previously? More balance?
Thank you everyone for all your advice. I hope I've changed enough to quell the initial doubts to my team at least somewhat.
Goal Keeper:
Pepe Reina (10m)
Defenders:
Gary Neville (32m)
John Terry (34m)
Sami Hyppia (14m)
Giovanni Van Bronckhorst (10m)
Midfielders:
Roy Keane (60m effective cost)
Yaya Toure (29m)
David Beckham (40m)
Fredrik Ljungberg (10m effective cost)
Potential: Deco (15m)
Forwards:
Ruud Van Nistelrooy (25m)
Carlos Tevez (10m)
Total Spent: 289m
Balance Budget: 11m
How does this look now compared to previously? More balance?
Thank you everyone for all your advice. I hope I've changed enough to quell the initial doubts to my team at least somewhat.
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@Polaroid - Reserve one match 7/8 for me. I will be travelling from 3rd to 7th.
I think his reputation was done a lot of harm when he had a bad day at the crossing office in the Chelsea semi-final a few years ago, which was probably the first time many folk over here saw him in action. But he's been delivering a significant attacking contribution for the best part of a decade now and there aren't many who can match that.
That was a horrific night for him at Stamford bridge. That's also the best defensive performance I have seen from any time against Pep's Barca. Chelsea deserved to go through then. Shame, we might have won another CL if that had happened.
I don't think anyone can match his output. Evra at his peak was great at getting past defenders but his end product has always been very poor.
Aye, I vaguely remember posting at the very height of Evra's form that if he was able to cross the ball he'd be up there with Maldini...a huge over-reaction in any case, but then he was a brilliant defender at his peak. His end-product has been diabolical though for a player that dominated his wing so convincingly.
Alves is something else though - how many full backs in history have a proven partnership with a forward like he does with Messi?
@Polaroid I'd much rather play midweek and not on the weekend.
@Polaroid How about making the draw tomorrow noon to add some interest? I don't think its going to change any picks.
Pat Mustard is spot on about Dani Alves. It shouldn't even need said. The man is a phenomenon and ridiculously underrated on the caf
PHEW. Finally done with my team. What a friggin headache. Auction drafts are my kryptonite.
The money, man. I got an extra 10m in the deal and I wanted that because otherwise I was right at the end of the budget and couldn't have bid for someone over base price and I still wanted fullbacks at the time, and it was useful as I got both fullbacks at over base price. I know it doesn't sound a big deal and I could have gotten other fullbacks at base price at this stage but I was genuinely scared about going over the line and with the nomination going up to 15 I'm glad I kept a few extra bucks in my pocket.Don't fully agree on Henry, but Kaká should have stayed. It's a clear counter-attacking side, you want Kaká and Henry in it, everything else will sort itself out somehow but you want to keep hold of Kaká, surely. Think he dropped a bollock there.
Kaká is an interesting one. It was only a few drafts ago that Theon had that diamond with Pirlo, Gattuso and De Rossi and faced with a reinforcement he went Xavi instead of Kaká. In fact Kaká went unpicked altogether. No one batted an eyelid (well, I did, but it was a private rant
And as I said I didn't just swap him for a random player, I had a few offers for Kaka but the only offer I entertained was Eto'o plus money as it kept the tactical setup in tact, and put Henry in his favoured position as well.
I think we're basically done now
On that note, mighty thanks to @VivaJanuzaj and @Edgar Allan Pillow for helping me out when I was well and truly screwed with the budget!
If you mean playing Henry on the left is his favoured position then that is absurd. He hardly played as a left winger for Arsenal. His peak was a forward who had pretty much the free role but he still was the further forward given that his usual striking partner was DB who dropped back into the midfield. He played ok for Barca on the left but that was far from his best form.