Television Top Gear

How cruel. It's wrong to mock the multi-bummed.
 
Indeed, but it's hard for my outrage to outweigh my amusement when anyone championing Clarkson complains about a tasteless statement exagerrated for effect. The words irony, hypocrisy, medicine and taste of spring to mind. Also cnut.



It's a pretty bold assumption that an institution that's run for 92 years, is renowned throughout the world, accounts for 14 of the top 20 most popular shows in UK broadcast history, all 10 of the most watched 'events' and 17 out of 20 in the BFI list of the best British programmes of all time and probably accounts for more of your favorite comedies, dramas and docs than all of the commerical channels combined when you actually think about it, is apparently universally accepted to be reliant on niche sport shows and currently popular presenters.

Even in a country where the furiously anti-Beeb tabloids, pushing an agenda for Fox News style TV, are read by more people than all the broadsheets combined, it's still a bit surprising anyone is myopic enough to believe this kind of thing.

The BBC's very nature as the world's biggest public broadcaster makes it a unique target for knee-jerk nonsense, but however much it stumbles in the mind of Johnny Lunchbucket, it's still far more useful and relevant than not. ITV produces next to nothing but "karaoke and trick shows" but when the Beeb follows suit - entirely within it's remit to account for the tastes of the public who fund it - it's the one in the firing line of whatever section of the populace are annoyed they're not paying for a personally tailored output.

Even in this scenario, where you assume a majority of the 64 million people who pay this tax genuinely want Jeremy Clarkson reinstated, it's doomed to incur the wrath of either Johnny and Judy Lunchbucket, or Sam and Sarah Sandlewearer, whatever it's final decision. All the while ITV broadcasts Keith Lemon and fake hypnotism gameshows, Channel 4 pumps out a million variations on The Boy with Four Bums, and Channel 5 does....whatever Channel 5 does, all to amused indifference.

But yeah, snooker and Clarkson. It'd be dead on its feet without them.


Bless, Mockney posted all that pro BBC stuff and how they have the top shows historically of this and that and I never once said they would be 'reliant on Top Gear and Snooker'. This is my view, what I like and for me there is very little on there worth while with a large portion of it propaganda, not just the news or QT but things like Traffic cop programs, parking wardens or benefits shows, get you used to seeing the police are brilliant or paying your fines like a good boy, getting you used to letting Cameron and co, whatever party really, cut the poors money we pay for whilst allowing the MP's a moat clean or the Queen a new fancy boat or gold carriage. Luckily though the BBC doesn't brainwash spam us with Mcdonalds 'food', Iphone or Gillette adverts so we go out and spend on junk we don't need, that's something at least although I'm sure they're doing a special on KFC soon, behind the scenes, and did one on Costa/Starbucks which is kind of blatant in itself.

Mockney my friend, don't care if it survives on Top Gear or flourishes with silly chairs that spin round and all the other so called quality shows, well actually not quite true I'd love it and Sky to disappear but still. Full of Peados anyway and they protect them. Luckily more and more people are stopping paying for it, about time, watch out though, sure the fake detector vans will be out to get ya if you do LOL, anyone seen the propaganda adverts they used to use? As said, for me, apart from an odd show like Top Gear or bit of sport its worthless, certainly not worth the billions they take off us thats for sure.

Keep Clarkson, keep Top Gear or maybe the government could sell the BBC to some private company, imagine that.... bet they've thought about that one, they sell everything else to their ruler mates anyway. IE Royal Mail and at cut price discount. What makes you love the BBC so much, Mockers? You're not dodgy are you mate.
 
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Anyway, its a simple solution for Clarkie, all he has to do if sacked is do setup another show, which he could quite clearly do as he's not just a presenter and knows what to do, take Hammond and Captain Slow with him and stream it online. Same setup, live audience etc. Then he could either charge a few or run ads and people would flock to it. I mean we all say it from time to time regarding United, how many of us would pay MUFC to see just their games, rather than pay SKy or BT more to watch various teams with a bit of United, so why wouldn't Tog Gear fans or serious petrol heads pay a few quid to watch just Top Gear, hardly going to be £150 is it now to watch a season.

Would be brilliant if he did that but he'd probably just go on Sky or similar. If he did it online only he could even call the show Top Bollocks.
 
Top Gear is scripted and pushes the agenda of its three presenters....why isn't that propaganda? Clarkson has done a brilliant job of creating this bad-ass/anti-establishment persona but it just doesn't wash (this is coming from someone who has probably seen 90% plus of the modern top gear episodes, and actually liked a ton of it......), it's a scripted persona, the man throws a tantrum because he didn't have some warm din dins.....that's pretty much the exact thing his top gear persona would mock, laugh at.

He hits people who he knows probably won't hit him back, a bully. The amount of friends and family, good people, who wouldn't dream of hitting a co-worker/employee, yet churn out rubbish excuse after rubbish excuse for this fella.....I just don't get it.

Has been posted in here before, no doubt, but no harm in posting the link again. http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/05/top-gear-offensive-steve-coogan
 
Didn't know they did snooker on ITV.

ITV4 have one or two of the 'smaller' tournaments.

There's one tournament going on at the moment on ITV, World Grand Prix. It just has much better commentators than BBC, Clive Everton, Neal Foulds are way way way better than BBC's tired old gang of incompetent turds.

I prefer the BBC commentators, I thought ITV's commentary is dull. Then again Snooker seems pretty dull these days if Ronnie isn't playing so maybe it's the nostalgia.

"Where's the cue ball going...."

Probably how some would feel if Clarkson left.
 
Yup, that's not a surprise really. Apparently May and Hammond's contract are up soon, I can see them all leaving BBC.
 
Hammond can go back to opening supermarkets and doing voiceovers for stupid challenge tv shows.

I don't mind him tbh, although I can see why people find him annoying.

I can see someone like Sky signing all three up and starting up Top Gear again, under different name obviously.
 
I don't mind him tbh, although I can see why people find him annoying.

He can be OK, but most of the time I find him extremely grating. He has a very particular presenting style that I just dislike, plus he's so far up Clarkson's arse that if he spat it'd come out of Jeremy's mouth.

I can see someone like Sky signing all three up and starting up Top Gear again, under different name obviously.

"The One Above Fifth Gear"
 
I read that he went round the house of the guy he assaulted and tried to apologise but the he wouldn't let him in.
From what I've heard the guy he hit didn't even report him, it was Clarkson who told the powers that be what had happened.

No idea how true that is, mind.
 
Pics taken of them filming in Swaledale....the trip where the fracas occurred at Simonstone Hotel. Storm in a teacup!

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To be fair this has been coming. The show has gone from being informative in its early years to purely entertainment. There is calls for both, but the latter has become the overwhelming element of the show and it detracts from what it's really about.

I love Hammond's idea that a supercar should be all about making you feel like a 12 year old looking at a poster on the wall imagining that you could own it one day. For most, this is what this show is about is making you feel 12 years old again looking at these blokes thrash supercars around or taking them to some of the best places in the world and thinking, how awesome would that be. I haven't felt that way about the show in a long time.
 
Crikey, it's nip and tuck in Mockney and Claymore's competition to see who can write the longest single sentence paragraph.
My chairman bollocks if I let a 40-50 word sentence slip through in the mag. He'd probably have a stroke if he read this thread.
 
Crikey, it's nip and tuck in Mockney and Claymore's competition to see who can write the longest single sentence paragraph.
My chairman bollocks if I let a 40-50 word sentence slip through in the mag. He'd probably have a stroke if he read this thread.

I liked Claymore's post, it was insinuating Mockney might be a bbc pedo-covering sympathizer of whatever mental point he was trying to make. I also like how no-one quoted him too just in case he lost it at them as well.
 
:lol:It has an impressive angriness I guess. Almost like a twisted tv-themed riff on the trainspotting end monologue.
Way out with his numbers though. Billions is laughable and he forget channel 4 gets some of the licence fee.
But yeah, Mockney's a paedo apologist.
I liked Claymore's post, it was insinuating Mockney might be a bbc pedo-covering sympathizer of whatever mental point he was trying to make. I also like how no-one quoted him too just in case he lost it at them as well.
 
:lol:It has an impressive angriness I guess. Almost like a twisted tv-themed riff on the trainspotting end monologue.
Way out with his numbers though. Billions is laughable and he forget channel 4 gets some of the licence fee.
But yeah, Mockney's a paedo apologist.

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Also I have my doubts about the BBC being an entirely paedo-run safe haven, that has some kind of trickle-down effect even onto its viewers who somehow manage to get past this tragic fact purely because they enjoy their programs so much.
 
Why not revamp the programme with a cheaper option: get two pissed tramps and Nigel Farage on one of those 'drive a supercar for a day' things?
 
BBC have quite possibly screwed the pooch with this. Top Gear made them so much money. If Clarkson, Hammond and May start a new show on a different channel there's a good chance no one will watch Top Gear at all anymore.

That said, Clarkson is a bellend. I would have though it would have been easier to just give him a massive fine instead though.
 
This is all very reminiscent of the entire panel of Gardener's Question Time defecting from the Home Service back in the '90s. They all bogged off to commercial radio en masse, led by the Polish guy, and what happened, eh? eh? They were never heard of again, not even the Polish guy, while the BBC just carried on with some new geezers in their place, that's what happened. Conclusive proof that no one is indispensable, even at the BBC.
 
This is all very reminiscent of the entire panel of Gardener's Question Time defecting from the Home Service back in the '90s. They all bogged off to commercial radio en masse, led by the Polish guy, and what happened, eh? eh? They were never heard of again, not even the Polish guy, while the BBC just carried on with some new geezers in their place, that's what happened. Conclusive proof that no one is indispensable, even at the BBC.

I googled "Gardners Question Time" as I hadn't heard of it before and the results had some articles debating whether or not it's a show layered with subtle racism, which seemed pretty weird.

Speaking on another Radio 4 programme, Thinking Allowed, the academic said: “Gardeners’ Question Time is not the most controversial show on Radio 4, and yet it is layered with, saturated with, racial meanings.

“The context here is the rise of nationalism. The rise of racist and fascist parties across Europe. Nationalism is about shoring up a fantasy of national integrity. My question is, what feeds nationalism? What makes nationalism powerful?”

Dr Pitcher said the “crisis in white identity in multicultural Britain” meant people felt unable to express their views for fear of being called racist, so expressed their racial identity in other ways, such as talking about gardening.

However Mr Flowerdew, a regular panellist on the show, denied that people who enjoyed talking about gardening were closet racists.

He said: “People aren’t gardening because they have some narrow nationalist view of the world.

“They are gardening because they enjoy it and they like to be outside in nice surroundings.”

He added: “We’ve been out in our gardens for more than 150 years so I don’t quite see how that fits. I think it’s ridiculous.

Is Gardners Question Time Racist

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That probably set Dr Pitcher off and just confirmed to him what is really happening in our gardens.
 
I googled "Gardners Question Time" as I hadn't heard of it before and the results had some articles debating whether or not it's a show layered with subtle racism, which seemed pretty weird.



:lol: mental
There was defo a thread on this. I remember the rhodedendron bashing with middle englanders fantasising about slaying foreigners.
fecking invasive Polish ivy being code for their labourers getting building jobs.
 
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Also I have my doubts about the BBC being an entirely paedo-run safe haven, that has some kind of trickle-down effect even onto its viewers who somehow manage to get past this tragic fact purely because they enjoy their programs so much.
The BBC is fecking weird. I had an interview for a business reporter role their about eight years ago. Pay was shit, was a massive panel interview with loads of weirdos- beardy sandal man, clear lesbian, boring cnut etc..- and the old White City HQ had massive words on the wall like 'inspire', 'create' and 'dream'.
They have been beaming 'pre-pubescent' and 'developing' onto my retina too, can't remember if I just made that up.