Top 4 race / race abandoned (or maybe not) / Leicester & Chelsea in the process of bottling it
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It wouldn't if United was playing Liverpool on Saturday or Sunday instead of Thursday.
On the topic of early rotation before the EL final Villarreal already at it, they only started 3 first choice players against Celta Vigo at the weekend and lost 4-2.
Question.
If Chelsea finish 5th and win CL, they get in the CL are also pot 1.
If Chelsea finish 3rd/4th and win CL, they get CL, a lower ranked country gets promoted to group stage, but does Chelsea keep pot 1?
If Chelsea finish 5th and win CL, they get in the CL are also pot 1.
If Chelsea finish 3rd/4th and win CL, they get CL, a lower ranked country gets promoted to group stage, but does Chelsea keep pot 1?
Yep, CL winners will always be pot 1.
Not even against Sheff Utd to be honest, we played great first half against West Brom, Rodgers for some reason wasn't happy with that 45 minutes (even publically), and then the team has been timid since. We playing in a manner we scared of losing the ball so players cannot express themselves.
Fofana was running forward with the ball a lot in his early games, and isn't doing it at all now, everyone is playing with chains.
Basically am praying you guys go easy on us, we somehow get the win, and then for Liverpool to bottle a result or two, they themselves are still not at their best so that's the hope, but they are the favourites over us for sure now.
Also Maddison been forced back into the team at the cost of an in form Perez has upset the attacking harmony.
Doesn't always work like that, our fall under Lampard started with the B team drawing to Krasnador.
If you do fully rotate vs Leicester it will still be first team squad players which will include players proven at the biggest stage like De Gea and Van De Beek.
i think if leicester lose tonight, and we in tomorrow, top 4 is practically done for us
Yeah I think one Chelsea win is enough. GD is good enough for all but some freak winning streak for Liverpool
Brendan Rodgers sackwatch thread is going to be coming soon
Leicester are poor.
And looking old against your youth. Fun stuff
I don't think Leicester will sack him even if they bottle top four again.
Not sure if I have this right - so it's almost certain that one, if not two, of the top four EPL teams will automatically qualify for the CL next year by virtue of winning the CL/EL. Does that mean that the fifth placed team would qualify for CL? I think there's a five team per league limit for qualifying?
(Trying to figure out if pool have to finish fifth or sixth in order to miss out on CL next year.)
(Trying to figure out if pool have to finish fifth or sixth in order to miss out on CL next year.)
I think we only have 5 teams if a team that finishes outside the top 4 wins either CL or EL. If Chelsea win the CL and finish 4th it will still just be top 4.
5th gets a team CL next year if that team wins the CL this year. Hence just Chelsea could do that but shouldn't be finishing 5th anyway. Livepool need top 4.
Don’t go getting ahead of yourself there fella
If we finish in the top four and Chelsea finish 5th, then win the CL, they qualify as the fifth team from England along side the top four.
If United finished 6th and won EL, and Chelsea finished 5th and won the CL, then 4th place would drop from the CL to the EL.
If United finished 6th and won EL, and Chelsea finished 5th and won the CL, then 4th place would drop from the CL to the EL.
3rd. Leicester City (GP 36, Pts 66, GD +21) - max points 72
18th May: Chelsea (a)
23rd May: Tottenham Hotspur (h)
4th. Chelsea (GP 35, Pts 64, GD +23) - max points 73
12th May: Arsenal (h)
18th May: Leicester City (h)
23rd May: Aston Villa (a)
5th. West Ham United (GP 35, Pts 58, GD +10) - max points 67
15th May: Brighton & Hove Albion (a)
19th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
23rd May: Southampton (h)
6th. Liverpool (GP 34, Pts 57, GD +18) - max points 69
13th May: Manchester United (a)
16th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
19th May: Burnley (a)
23rd May: Crystal Palace (h)
7th. Tottenham Hotspur (GP 35, Pts 56, GD +20) - max points 65
16th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
19th May: Aston Villa (h)
23rd May: Leicester City (a)
8th. Everton (GP 34, Pts 55, GD +4) - max points 67
13th May: Aston Villa (a)
16th May: Sheffield United (h)
19th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
23rd May: Manchester City (a)
If Chelsea beat Arsenal, then Spurs are out.
18th May: Chelsea (a)
23rd May: Tottenham Hotspur (h)
4th. Chelsea (GP 35, Pts 64, GD +23) - max points 73
12th May: Arsenal (h)
18th May: Leicester City (h)
23rd May: Aston Villa (a)
5th. West Ham United (GP 35, Pts 58, GD +10) - max points 67
15th May: Brighton & Hove Albion (a)
19th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
23rd May: Southampton (h)
6th. Liverpool (GP 34, Pts 57, GD +18) - max points 69
13th May: Manchester United (a)
16th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
19th May: Burnley (a)
23rd May: Crystal Palace (h)
7th. Tottenham Hotspur (GP 35, Pts 56, GD +20) - max points 65
16th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
19th May: Aston Villa (h)
23rd May: Leicester City (a)
8th. Everton (GP 34, Pts 55, GD +4) - max points 67
13th May: Aston Villa (a)
16th May: Sheffield United (h)
19th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
23rd May: Manchester City (a)
If Chelsea beat Arsenal, then Spurs are out.
United can't finish 6th barring points being docked.
I know, just giveng an example of that scenario and how it would work.
My bad. Carry on.
That’s pretty much that I think. Will be confirmed if we win Thursday
If Liverpool win against us, I think they will sneak through
So Liverpool need 4 more wins and need Leicester to lose in one of their remaining two games?
This gets explained multiple times a day in here.
Not really. It’s pretty feasible that Liverpool could beat West Brom, Burnley and Palace and Leicester lose to Chelsea and Spurs. In fact, I’d say that may be the most likely outcome save for maybe Leicester v Spurs.
We beat Liverpool on Thursday. Chelsea beat Arsenal and then they and Leicester play out a scrappy, boring 0-0 draw against one another 
There could be nothing significant to play for in the league on the final day other than who qualifies for the Europa League & Europa Conference League
There could be nothing significant to play for in the league on the final day other than who qualifies for the Europa League & Europa Conference League
Still fancy Liverpool. An extremely soft final 3 games which will wipe out Leicester's slim GD advantage.
Spurs to play party poopers on the final day.
Spurs to play party poopers on the final day.
If we win Thursday, Leicester need 1 more point and Chelsea 3 more to be out of Liverpool’s reach
Yeah but we're awful against 'easier opposition. More chance of us beating United away than an already relegated West Brom and Burnley.
Big result for Leicester tonight the cnuts
Liverpool are 6th for a reason. Struggled to beat Southampton after drawing v Leeds and Newcastle. There is noting feasible about them going on a 4 game run. That game v Burnley stands out a mile to me.
I can't be the only United fan pleased to see Ole throw the game to wreck Liverpool's CL hopes.
Right?
Right?
It's not quite over. Result in Thursday is big.
Leicseter need 4 right now. That's assuming Liverpool win all their games.
Leicester have Chelsea and Spurs to play so could conceivably get 0 points.
So our game against them will be a major factor
Leicseter need 4 right now. That's assuming Liverpool win all their games.
Leicester have Chelsea and Spurs to play so could conceivably get 0 points.
So our game against them will be a major factor
If we beat Liverpool Leicester will need only a point to get CL football which I fancy them to get vs an average Spurs team.
No chance we lose twice in a week so reckon worst case scenario is a draw on Thursday but reckon we get all 3 points. People are giving LFC a little too much credit even though their remaining fixtures look easy on paper those are the games that have cost them this season and I won't be shocked if they drop more before matchday 38
No chance we lose twice in a week so reckon worst case scenario is a draw on Thursday but reckon we get all 3 points. People are giving LFC a little too much credit even though their remaining fixtures look easy on paper those are the games that have cost them this season and I won't be shocked if they drop more before matchday 38
If we beat Liverpool Leicester will only need a point even if Liverpool win all their games
We beat Liverpool on Thursday. Chelsea beat Arsenal and then they and Leicester play out a scrappy, boring 0-0 draw against one another
There could be nothing significant to play for in the league on the final day other than who qualifies for the Europa League & Europa Conference League
At this point, this is the dream scenario.
Exactly so it's far from over. Leicesters last two games are very difficult. And bar us Liverpools are very winnable.
Leicester favourites for sure but a win for Liverpool on Thursday and things will be very sticky
I'm at a loss as to why it's even being asked.
Never before had a 5th spot opened up when a top 4 team has won the CL/EL so why on earth has so many people come to the conclusion that may be the case now?