Top 3 Game Consoles ever?

Well i buy a games machine for entertainment. If the latest generation of games console aren't the best at doing that, despite being technically the best, than why did i bother buying one? Are you telling me i wasted £300 pounds?
 
I can't remember how it was on the ST, but on Amiga, the MC68000 only had access to what would now be called VRAM (Amiga - CHIP RAM) every other cycle, but could access its own RAM (on Amiga FAST RAM - no base Amigas had FAST RAM) per cycle, it was also locked out at times (from CHIP RAM) by the custom hardware. The A500 technically had a 32bit processor that was borked because of the size of the data bus.
 
Exactly what? I also don't like the use of the term "16bit gaming". The MC68000 was not a 16 bit chip, at least internally it wasn't, its address and data busses could be configured in a wide range also.

no, as in terms as I dont have a fecking clue about the specs but it was the first console which felt like proper 3D.
 
Well i buy a games machine for entertainment. If the latest generation of games console aren't the best at doing that, despite being technically the best, than why did i bother buying one? Are you telling me i wasted £300 pounds?

Well, you can be as technical as you want to be, it doesn't always give you the best games does it? It should do, but it always doesn't work like that. PS3 is technically more advanced than XB360, but for other reasons the XB360 gets the best version of all the 3rd party games.

The games library of the PS2 will never be matched again, it has so many great games that the XB360 will not even get to 1/10th of that before it's replaced.
 
PC games at the time were doing 3D, but they were rendering in software, the GPUs didn't exist at that type of price range. Those consoles were the first to have specialised hardware to help with 3D and texturing. Amiga couldn't do it because it was always designed as a 2D machine. Its graphics were planar. If you had to set a single pixel in say a 256 colour screen, you had to write 1 bit into 8 different places. Not very good is that. In chunky pixel based machines, you just write a whole byte at once.
 
Well, you can be as technical as you want to be, it doesn't always give you the best games does it? It should do, but it always doesn't work like that. PS3 is technically more advanced than XB360, but for other reasons the XB360 gets the best version of all the 3rd party games.

The games library of the PS2 will never be matched again, it has so many great games that the XB360 will not even get to 1/10th of that before it's replaced.

But does a large games catalogue necessarily mean it was the best console. Was the majority of that catalogue not utter shite, with little variance between story lines, poor gameplay and overall very little ingenuity?
 
But does a large games catalogue necessarily mean it was the best console. Was the majority of that catalogue not utter shite, with little variance between story lines, poor gameplay and overall very little ingenuity?

Of course there is a lot of trash, but there is a lot of trash on XB360 and PS3 also. I don't think that the ratio changes, it's just that PS2 shipped around 140 million units of hardware, which means that it has a lot more shit, but also a lot more greatness.
 
Name me the games you still enjoy playing on the PS2, and i reckon i can name more that i enjoy playing on the 360.
 
PC games at the time were doing 3D, but they were rendering in software, the GPUs didn't exist at that type of price range. Those consoles were the first to have specialised hardware to help with 3D and texturing. Amiga couldn't do it because it was always designed as a 2D machine. Its graphics were planar. If you had to set a single pixel in say a 256 colour screen, you had to write 1 bit into 8 different places. Not very good is that. In chunky pixel based machines, you just write a whole byte at once.

I think you are smoking crack. By 2000 you had already several generations of 3d card come out for PC that were AS affordable as the cards today.

I got my first honest to god 3d card in 1997 or 1998 my Voodoo2.
 
I think you are smoking crack. By 2000 you had already several generations of 3d card come out for PC that were AS affordable as the cards today.

I got my first honest to god 3d card in 1997 or 1998 my Voodoo2.

I used to run 2 Voodoo 2 cards bridged together. My brother had a TNT ultra or something like that. The TNT was a 32mb card and the voodoo 2 was a 16mb card. Was also playing games online in 1998 onwards.
 
I think you are smoking crack. By 2000 you had already several generations of 3d card come out for PC that were AS affordable as the cards today.

I got my first honest to god 3d card in 1997 or 1998 my Voodoo2.

PS1 and Saturn were released in 1994, 3DO 1993! :wenger:

It's you smoking crack matey. Carmack is famed or his software rendering engines - started using a technique called ray casting.
 

Have you even seen a PSX?

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Well i buy a games machine for entertainment. If the latest generation of games console aren't the best at doing that, despite being technically the best, than why did i bother buying one? Are you telling me i wasted £300 pounds?
Because all consoles have a lifespan and sooner or later the number of games being released will decrease and eventually stop, so of course you're going to buy a newer console so you have new games to play (it doesn't mean the games are better though).
 
PS1 and Saturn were released in 1994, 3DO 1993! :wenger:

It's you smoking crack matey. Carmack is famed or his software rendering engines - started using a technique called ray casting.

I thought you were referring to the PS2 which released in 2001. Whereas the PC 3d card industry had taken off in 1997 or so and is what ultimately drove the 3d card wars and the rapid evolution of 3d graphics we see today!
 
1)PS2
2)Amiga
3)PS1

Then there is the Snes, and Megadrive. Xbox 360 and PS3 are obviously the best technically, but the top three i put up are the ones that i enjoyed playing the most at the age i was.
 
I thought you were referring to the PS2 which released in 2001. Whereas the PC 3d card industry had taken off in 1997 or so and is what ultimately drove the 3d card wars and the rapid evolution of 3d graphics we see today!

Well, I was talking about Amiga, so therefore PS1 etc. Maybe I wasn't clear. Amiga could have (if Commodore hadn't gone belly up) competed for a while with 3D if its graphics system was not planar. The AAA (advanced Amiga architecture) chipset (although it had no specific 3D hardware) did have chunky pixel modes, but was way behind schedule due to lack of investment. The PC could pull it off without specific hardware because it did have chunky pixels, Doom etc. are classic examples. They did in desperation stick a special chip in CD32 called Akiko that would convert a chunky pixel buffer into a planar one, but then it was all too late. I did get an A1200 to rotate a full screen in realtime doing what Akiko did in software, but it was all a total mess.
 
I have to agree with Weaste, most people just seem to be making their decisions on what their favourite brand are, be it Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft or whatever.

Fact is, no console has ever, or probably will ever again sell like the PS2 did, and therefore deliver about 90% of the great games of its generation (bar the usual Nintendo games like Zelda, Mario etc), therefore it's the best, by a fecking country mile.

I don't get how people can say X360 or PS3, they're both pretty much the same console, arguably the 360 has a better games catalog at the moment, but the PS3 is far better as an entertainment system because of it's Bluray.

Anyway:

1: PS2
2: SNES
3: PS1
 
There was nothing ground-breaking or special about Playstation 2. It wasn't even as powerful as X-Box or, I believe, Nintento's Gamecube. Don't get me wrong, it was a fantastic console, but not so good that it should easily make everyone's #1.

My personal top 3:

1. Nintendo 64
2. Nintendo Gamecube
3. Sega Saturn

Those are more the one's I've played the most/had the most enjoyment on, N64 would still remain top of my list for the absolute best out there though.