Disagreed about his wages. He wanted to become one of their highest paid players, they did offer less.
Toni Kroos | Retired
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What a player.
To think he could have been playing for Utd.
To think he could have been playing for Utd.
Do you think he'll go into management?
Midfielders seem to make the best managers
Midfielders seem to make the best managers
Somehow I don't see it. He just doesn't give the vibe that he does want to be involved in daily football business. Think he'll enjoy retirement and possibly just do a bit of punditry (he already produces a regular podcast about football stuff together with his brother, it's quite well done).
I like the podcast a lot, but now Toni retires, not sure it will continue for long.
Should send Luis Van Gaal a gift. Probably saved his career from being mediocre.
What a first post on this thread.
5 CL's (likely 6 by the end of the season)
3 Bundesliga's
4 La Liga's
1 WC
What a career.
3 Bundesliga's
4 La Liga's
1 WC
What a career.
I think he's someone people will appreciate more in a few years. He's always discounted when talking about top midfielders but there are very few better, I remember a few years ago Real fans played guess the heat map on reddit and his was basically the whole pitch. People think of his as a passer only but he covers a huge amount of ground and i would say his only real 'weakness' was not being that fast.
He will be retiring after an amazing season, no matter if he wins the CL or not, and after an extraordinary career. An absolute legend of the game.
I feel we'll be in trouble in the future as this guy is irreplaceable
Hope I get this wrong, but I really don't think so.
I feel we'll be in trouble in the future as this guy is irreplaceable
Hope I get this wrong, but I really don't think so.Will be very hard to replace, one of the all-time greats, not a bad decision to retire at the top though, even though wish he was here one more year
Wonder how we will set up next season, don't think anyone we have in the midfield can quite do what he does.
Wonder how we will set up next season, don't think anyone we have in the midfield can quite do what he does.
This one hurts
Nor is there anyone that plays the way Kroos does. You cannot do a one on one change. You're just going to have to set up differently.
I suppose that with Mbappé coming you'll go more to a classic 4-3-3 with Valverde, Bellingham and Camavinga/Tchouameni? With Modric doing the last 15/20 minutes here and there?
One of the best ever CMs I've had the chance of watching from start to finish. Sublime player
Without Kroos it looks even more of a team reliant on moments/transitions, especially if Bellingham moves back to CM
Yes indeed. Excellent passer of the ball in that zone outside the penalty area.
Next to Lahm, he was the best German outfield player I’ve seen. Legend.
Yep, I’m no football genius. That was a load of shit.
RM hadn't fully figured out how to use him yet.
I know. In hindsight, I was wrong about them not being able to play together but he was struggling at the time.
Sounds like a midfield that will struggle against deep-sitting teams, but yeah, the set up will have to be different, hope it works out.
Where does he end up in the pantheon of all-time Real Madrid legends? Top ten?
Yep, I’m no football genius. That was a load of shit.
Haha fair play! I wonder how many of our current players are similarly just not in the right set-up/ not properly settled right now, but could be brilliant....
Unless my memory is failing me, he was doing fine and it was clear Modric/Kroos was an upgrade on the Alonso-Khedira duo. Starter right away playing from that deep midfield role. His first season 14/15 we were on a high with him playing that role but then at the end the team kinda collapsed partly due to injuries.
Doesn’t matter anyway. Absolute legend and we’ll miss him dearly. Won’t be able to replace him 1:1, but we didn’t do that with Modric either and he’s been mainly on the bench this season.
Still hurts
I held out hope he would still rock up here one day 
Sublime footballer, one of my favourite non United players. What a career.
Sublime footballer, one of my favourite non United players. What a career.
Man, now I actually have to root for the German NT in the Euros because it would just feel plain wrong having Kroos end his career on crashing out in the group phase or RO16 and getting crapped on in the media along with the rest of the team, as was my expectation for them until now. That would be an undeserving finish to such a career as his.
Top ten with certain ease imo.
Di Stefano, Ronaldo are first and second respectively.
Gento, Puskas, Modric, Ramos, Kroos, Benzema, Raul and Roberto Carlos also belong to my top ten, but in no particular order.
I'm not crying you're crying
Sad day for football. Among all the great German midfielders since 2000, he stands out to me. I believe he deserves to be mentioned alongside the absolute best of his generation like Xavi, Iniesta, Modric and Pirlo.
From a German perspective, the saying "you never know what you've got till it's gone" applies to his career pretty well. Bayern underrated him completely so he found his luck in Madrid. He was scapegoated for the bad results of Germany and called "sideway-pass Toni" by German media, fans and pundits alike but after he retired from the national team, the performances detoriated even further. Until he finally returned under much applause. If he wins his sixth UCL with Madrid, making him the lone record holder, and manages to win an EC in Germany, he could even finish his outstanding career with a Ballon d'Or.
From a German perspective, the saying "you never know what you've got till it's gone" applies to his career pretty well. Bayern underrated him completely so he found his luck in Madrid. He was scapegoated for the bad results of Germany and called "sideway-pass Toni" by German media, fans and pundits alike but after he retired from the national team, the performances detoriated even further. Until he finally returned under much applause. If he wins his sixth UCL with Madrid, making him the lone record holder, and manages to win an EC in Germany, he could even finish his outstanding career with a Ballon d'Or.
Great footballer, great person, great haircut.
Does surprise me a bit he's walking away right now, but maybe there's something to be said about knowing to quit while you're ahead rather than pull a Ronaldo.
Does surprise me a bit he's walking away right now, but maybe there's something to be said about knowing to quit while you're ahead rather than pull a Ronaldo.
Let's not get carried away, shall we?
Just for the record, he would share it with four more people, which is still extraordinary.
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Retiring too early. Should go make bank somewhere else. Maybe America since he's hated in Saudi.
Is planning to coach? Not sure why else to retire early.
Is planning to coach? Not sure why else to retire early.
Still find it surreal he was gonna join United if Moyes had stayed.
He often said he wants to retire while still at his best, he doesn't want to grind out more years with an increasingly broken down body and a slowly fading role in the team. He isn't like Modric in that regard who offers flashes of class in short minutes, Toni Kroos either is the beating heart of a team or he isn't part of it. When he feels that he can't fulfill that role any longer it's time for him to go (btw I am very sure that this is also the reason why he left the national team and now returned - now he's got assurances that the team will be built around him).
What a dumb fecking post. What a fecking idiot. Change sport. To begin with 80% of Kroos means you're talking about one of the top 10-15 midfielders of all time.
And YES. OF FECKING COURSE HE'S WORTH IT. DID YOU MISS THE 4 CL - COULD BE 5 IN 2 WEEKS????
You should never be allowed to talk football again. Moron
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This...this is right. This is the correct opinion. Well, Gundogan and Kroos should be more like 1A 1B, but still, close enough
For me, Modric and Kroos were a better duo than Xavi and Iniesta. Especially in terms of defensive contribution and versatility to adapt to different schemes.
Xavi and Iniesta's advantage was that they played together at Spain NT and they were better for that style of possession.
If I had to choose a duo, it would be Modric and Kroos.
It's a good discussion.
Xavi and Iniesta's advantage was that they played together at Spain NT and they were better for that style of possession.
If I had to choose a duo, it would be Modric and Kroos.
It's a good discussion.
I get dizzy, I need a chair. I didn't expect it. A list of signings to put in my vein please
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