Toni Kroos | Madridista

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You steal 1 muppet dream Pep, we take your other muppet dream.

What goes around comes around you bald spanish bastard. (P.S plz manage Utd after Moyes thx)
 
Adam-Utd said:
You steal 1 muppet dream Pep, we take your other muppet dream.

What goes around comes around you bald spanish bastard. (P.S plz manage Utd after Moyes thx)
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Maybe he's just ensuring that we'll have at least one class midfielder by the time he takes over
 
Hair today..

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..gone tomorrow.

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Balu said:
It then became much more a 442/424 than the 433/4231 we played with Kroos. Robben and Müller played way higher than Ribery and Ribery's selfless play saw him stay deeper and move inside to take over a lot of what Kroos brought to the team. We also became a much more reactive side than we were before. It's not about the position in a formation, it's about the tactics and style of play. Müller played Kroos' role a few times this season, it was far from great though and a waste of Müller's abilities. We certainly don't sell a player to force us into options that have nothing to do with the manager's ideas for the team. Rode is also the wrong replacement for Kroos. Pretty sure Kroos knows, how important he actually is, which makes it so easy for him to put pressure on the club at the moment.
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You simply didn't understand my post. First, Muller doesn't have to play like Kroos to be able to play as one of the central 2 ahead of the holding midfielder. Its called having options. Goetze, Schweinstieger, Thiago, Muller and young Hjorberg offer that and are all unique players and different from Kroos. I mentioned that in answer to a question about Bayern being stoked in midfield. This Xavi-Pedro comparison of yours was thus plain offside and classic missing the point. Second, Rode was also mentioned in terms of Bayern's midfield being stoked. He can never be a replacement for a Kroos because he is nothing like him. Being more of a Javi Martinez type. If Kroos were to leave Bayern would in all likelyhood go to the market for a replacement. But the fact is even now they have more options to function without him, than they even did when injury took him out last season.
 
Situation may look easier than we thought. Maybe Moyes should really do exactly what Pep did when signing Alcantara.

No pep talk, no build ups, no bullshit, just throw proper amount of money for a player and let's get this over with.

I assume Wooden Ed is somewhere near and his plane didn't jumped in some Bermuda triangle business.
 
Adam-Utd said:
You steal 1 muppet dream Pep, we take your other muppet dream.

What goes around comes around you bald spanish bastard. (P.S plz manage Utd after Moyes thx)
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Van Piorsing said:
Situation may look easier than we thought. Maybe Moyes should really do exactly what Pep did when signing Alcantara.

No pep talk, no build ups, no bullshit, just throw proper amount of money for a player and let's get this over with.

I assume Wooden Ed is somewhere near and his plane didn't jumped in some Bermuda triangle business.
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:lol:

Throw £40m at the feckers & then throw so more if that doesnt work... Give them the helicopter too ffs!
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
And for the record Balu, I real dont want Bayern to ever let go of Kroos. But its not beyond the realm of possibility for his head to be turned or for the board to think him unworthy of the payrise he is asking for. I feel that is why the club and Pep are currently not equivocal about his future.
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Mental! Surely you would if he wants to come to us though?
 
Heardy said:
I dunno, to make something odds on means that they feel there is a more likely than not of it happening surely.
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That's not how the betting odds on football transfers work. It is driven mostly by betting patterns. So the more folk laying serious money on Kroos to be a Manchester United player the shorter the odds will get. If 5 business men stick 100,000 each on Kroos to United in the next few days the odds will shorten again...it doesn't make it any more likely to happen.

The bookies could assume that these punters are privy to info they are not and cover their arse on future bets. The punter could be foolish nobeds with no more idea than you or I but love flutter on it.

Sneijder was something like 1/4 on a few years back.
 
i think i get where you're coming from, it's going to take 5 lots of 200,000 isn't it?
 
i've got 2 euro 90, we're not even close.
 
londonredmaniac said:
That's not how the betting odds on football transfers work. It is driven mostly by betting patterns. So the more folk laying serious money on Kroos to be a Manchester United player the shorter the odds will get. If 5 business men stick 100,000 each on Kroos to United in the next few days the odds will shorten again...it doesn't make it any more likely to happen.

The bookies could assume that these punters are privy to info they are not and cover their arse on future bets. The punter could be foolish nobeds with no more idea than you or I but love flutter on it.

Sneijder was something like 1/4 on a few years back.
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Ive seen that mentioned a few times but in fairness he was incredibly close to joining us, they can be seen as 'accurate' odds
 
londonredmaniac said:
That's not how the betting odds on football transfers work. It is driven mostly by betting patterns. So the more folk laying serious money on Kroos to be a Manchester United player the shorter the odds will get. If 5 business men stick 100,000 each on Kroos to United in the next few days the odds will shorten again...it doesn't make it any more likely to happen.

The bookies could assume that these punters are privy to info they are not and cover their arse on future bets. The punter could be foolish nobeds with no more idea than you or I but love flutter on it.

Sneijder was something like 1/4 on a few years back.
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You are correct of course. It would only take a few of us to make a £50 bet each to influence the price though. These markets are small and restricted. Bookies don't actually make a great deal of money from them. There main purpose is to keep punters using their sites during the off season.
 
Last summer Pep said "-I want Alcantara in my team" *Day after goes shopping and get Alcantara*

United can't risk no more of taking the pose of clueless Granny on a bazaar. It should look easier than buying a cheese and Bayern is overloaded with the feckin cheese.
 
Van Piorsing said:
Last summer Pep said "-I want Alcantara in my team" *Day after goes shopping and get Alcantara*

United can't risk no more of taking the pose of clueless Granny on a bazaar. It should look easier than buying a cheese and Bayern is overloaded with the feckin cheese.
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the...feck???
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
You simply didn't understand my post. First, Muller doesn't have to play like Kroos to be able to play as one of the central 2 ahead of the holding midfielder. Its called having options. Goetze, Schweinstieger, Thiago, Muller and young Hjorberg offer that and are all unique players and different from Kroos. I mentioned that in answer to a question about Bayern being stoked in midfield. This Xavi-Pedro comparison of yours was thus plain offside and classic missing the point. Second, Rode was also mentioned in terms of Bayern's midfield being stoked. He can never be a replacement for a Kroos because he is nothing like him. Being more of a Javi Martinez type. If Kroos were to leave Bayern would in all likelyhood go to the market for a replacement. But the fact is even now they have more options to function without him, than they even did when injury took him out last season.
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I don't understand this one as well. It just makes no sense, that you ignore what the manager wants to do and just say, we could field a functional side in some way. Yeah, we could, but it's certainly not in our interest.

The last part isn't true, btw. We lost Gustavo, Tymoshchuk and Can, Götze is more a Gomez replacement than one for the CM positions. We don't have a bigger squad than last season and we have in numbers less central midfielders. If you want to count Hojbjerg this season, you can count him for last season as well, but he's still a youth player, just a very talented one that got a few minutes because of our injury problems. Weiser isn't a central midfielder at all, btw. No idea why you mentioned him earlier.


Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
And for the record Balu, I real dont want Bayern to ever let go of Kroos. But its not beyond the realm of possibility for his head to be turned or for the board to think him unworthy of the payrise he is asking for. I feel that is why the club and Pep are currently not equivocal about his future.
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I've never said that it's beyond the realm of possibility for his head to be turned. I've just said that he definitely won't leave in January and that Bayern doesn't need to sell him to earn a few millions in the summer. If he really wants to go and we don't find a replacement, it's possible that he stays and leaves on a free in 2015. That's all.
 
Tarrou said:
You are correct of course. It would only take a few of us to make a £50 bet each to influence the price though. These markets are small and restricted. Bookies don't actually make a great deal of money from them. There main purpose is to keep punters using their sites during the off season.
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Of course, spot on mate.
 
Pexbo said:
Vidal - Kroos

Mata - Rooney - Januzaj

RVP​


That's a Champions League winning team right there :drool:
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No way is Kroos going to play midfield.

Januzaij- Vidal - Mata
Rooney
RVP - Kroos

And yes, it would make the CL 88% sure considering our upcoming game in that competition.
 
Successful said:
No way is Kroos going to play midfield.

Januzaij- Vidal - Mata
Rooney
RVP - Kroos

And yes, it would make the CL 88% sure considering our upcoming game in that competition.
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You must be confusing Kroos with someone else. Kroos is a midfielder, albeit a fairly attacking one.
 
londonredmaniac said:
That's not how the betting odds on football transfers work. It is driven mostly by betting patterns. So the more folk laying serious money on Kroos to be a Manchester United player the shorter the odds will get. If 5 business men stick 100,000 each on Kroos to United in the next few days the odds will shorten again...it doesn't make it any more likely to happen.

The bookies could assume that these punters are privy to info they are not and cover their arse on future bets. The punter could be foolish nobeds with no more idea than you or I but love flutter on it.

Sneijder was something like 1/4 on a few years back.
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you have to check the smallprint with betting odds

very often it is odds on their new club and therefore if they stay at their current club then the bookies keep the money (they can be very sly about things like that) so whilst somebody may be odds on to join a particular club that is only indicating that if they are going anywhere then that is the likely destination - it makes no statement as to how likely that move is.
 
Which position in midfield does he play? More importantly, if that actually happens where would we play him, next to Carrick?
 
Bape said:
Which position in midfield does he play? More importantly, if that actually happens where would we play him, next to Carrick?
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Don't be daft.

Vidal, I would imagine.
 
Bape said:
Which position in midfield does he play? More importantly, if that actually happens where would we play him, next to Carrick?
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I think he's a no.10 who can play CM rather than a CM who can play as a no.10. I could be wrong, but my impression was that his favoured position is behind the striker.
 
Pexbo said:
Vidal - Kroos

Mata - Rooney - Januzaj

RVP​


That's a Champions League winning team right there :drool:
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A new shiny left-back and a ball playing centre-half and we'd be up there with the best.
 
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