Keano isn't known for tolerating shite.
Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
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Keano isn't known for tolerating shite.
Its his main talent, but he's regressed considerably in terms of passing with any real ambition beyond retaining possession, and he was never the most expansive player to begin with. IMO its not so much that he's stylistically wrong for us as that he's too limited to merit a regular place in any top side.
They exist for everybody. This isn't a hypothetical, the extent of the pressure is hypothetical. No fan in their right mind should be upset at a player for not wanting to uproot his entire family for a move.
So the mirror are reporting he'd rather go on loan. I hope we tell him to feck off.
His style of play might suit Spanish football but I'd say players like him are a dime a dozen in Spain. Similar to what Guardiola said of Wilshere and Barcelona graduates from La Maria.
Stay classy.
I will. Rather you know the club get money to recoup from him rather than him going on a free.
Loaning him would be pointless. Just sell him.
Oh feck off with your loan move Tom, your're shite and we don't want ya.
Leave your girlfriend though, we can throw her in with 200k/week to coax Vidal.
Leave your girlfriend though, we can throw her in with 200k/week to coax Vidal.
Plus Keane as a player and a manager is most frustrated about losing possession. As long as Cleverley is effective with the ball I am sure he will not have a major issue with him.
This. Don't think we should be even offering a loan as an option for any of the players we want rid of, unless we really can't shift them permanently.
At Cleverley's level it's probably a penny for three!
It would better to keep him here for depth instead of loaning him out.
If there really was a bid then I'm sure he will be sold in the next few days. No point in sending him on loan, might as well buy his contract.
A bit worse than pointless. He's got a year left on his contract - loan him out and he can walk next summer for free, pocketing a very nice signing on fee to sweeten the deal.
The guy's got more balls at the negotiating table than on the field.
A bit worse than pointless. He's got a year left on his contract - loan him out and he can walk next summer for free, pocketing a very nice signing on fee to sweeten the deal.
The guy's got more balls at the negotiating table than on the field.
Exactly, whilst we lose £8m.
Tell him to move or sit in the reserves.
I suppose its surprising to find out he has any at all.A bit worse than pointless. He's got a year left on his contract - loan him out and he can walk next summer for free, pocketing a very nice signing on fee to sweeten the deal.
The guy's got more balls at the negotiating table than on the field.
Eh wtf?
We all know she was a bonus from United when we thought he was gonna turn out like Wilshere (before the leg break)
@Red Phoenix Rising will defend Cleverley to the death. I hope he fvcks off to Villa but its unlikely now isn't it? Stuck with him. Bummer.
Yeah, it's mad just how obsessed he is about not wanting anyone to have a negative opinion of him. I think he might be a relative. I'd say it was Cleverley himself but RPR seems to be fairly intelligent and I reckon Cleverley would be thick as pig shit.
Yes, lets all get together and say silly things and laugh at each other. That's what the bestest fans do. Tell players to feck off and call them shit every chance they get.
Rather juvenile.
Rather juvenile.
How old are you? So uptight my man. Some of us call a spade a spade. Do you rate every player on our team? What do you think of Anderson huh?
He can feck off. He's shit.
You're just being juvenile. Anderson deserves respect!
There's a difference between constructive criticism and just being a bunch of arseholes
You are the most hysterical, highly strung, bunny boiler currently on the forums. That is some achievement.
Supporting any and every player who wears the shirt, regardless of talent, effort or performances, doesn't make you a good fan or a better person or give you any sort of moral high ground.
If I, or anyone else, thinks a player is shite and wants them to leave the club on that basis then you've no right whatsoever to constantly project your over sensitive, extremely over protective views, without being ridiculed.
So you can keep going and keep getting the piss taken out of your....or accept that people are allowed different opinions and move on.
@Red Phoenix Rising what compels you to stick up for our Tom so much? He's shit. We've all seen it. We should just grab the £8/9million and run. Admit it. It'll make you feel much better, I promise.
Calling a player who has far from justified his wages and hasn't turned up since the 8-2 vs Arsenal, shit, isn't juvenile though.
Cleverley has overstayed his welcome I'm afraid. I would've loved for him to use his beginning of 11/12 form as a platform to succeed, but it's not going to happen, at least at United.
I'm not even sticking up for him. There is saying he's in a bad way at the moment and then there is just genuine rubbish like 'he's shit, always been shit, never been a good player' I mean come on. It's not even constructive anymore. It's just become some weird scene type thing to be in the thread talking codshit about Cleverley and have a laugh with each other.
The jokes I can handle, fair play on that some witty criticism but the abuse is just bizarre and I don't understand it, that is more the point here than sticking up for Cleverley. He's just such an insignificant player to garner this much negativity.
The jokes I can handle, fair play on that some witty criticism but the abuse is just bizarre and I don't understand it, that is more the point here than sticking up for Cleverley. He's just such an insignificant player to garner this much negativity.
To be fair, you could probably count the United players who have justified their wages on one hand.
Maybe he's been playing shit because United don't know how to use him. He was excellent before joining the team and a full England international. You build systems around the talents of your players, and you don't shoehorn players into a system that doesn't work for them. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Tom Cleverley thrive at another team. Time will tell, I suppose. Good luck to him, wherever he lands.
You need to get a grip.
I rather the club get £8m for him rather than walking on a free.
I admit his confidence must've taken a massive knock after being made a scapegoat and his own fans taking the piss, but he's never had pure quality. He was decent at Wigan, but that doesn't show much at all. His shooting and passing technique is woeful, too.
I agree that it's also to do with a lack of confidence. His passing used to be stellar.
What is it about Tom Cleverley that brings out a nasty side of our fans?
I mean fair enough he hasn't met our expectations, but he wouldn't be the first nor last to not make it here. The vitriol here is pathetic.
I mean fair enough he hasn't met our expectations, but he wouldn't be the first nor last to not make it here. The vitriol here is pathetic.
He hasn't been up to it for awhile really. Think it's out of frustration that he's still on the books rather than hatred.
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