Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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Daily Mail was saying £7m. Either way, best for both Man Utd and the player that they go their separate ways.
 
Having an English passport goes a long way.

For big clubs yes because they have to keep homegrown quota in Europe. I'd say Villa's chances of making serious impact in Europe are non-existent and they have a pretty solid English backbone as far as I remember so another English player isn't worth as much to them as he'd be to City or Chelsea. £9m is ridiculous for a player who has been out of form for a long time and generally isn't all that. £5m would probably be maximum I'd pay in their position.

I guess the new TV deal has made PL clubs more eager to spend money.
 
We probably need two more midfielders at the minute. Get Blind and Carvalho.
 
No, I agree with you and was at first mighty surprised we were even getting money for him, let alone £9m. All I'm saying is similar shite/average players like McCormack and Livermore have gone for similar amounts or more. I can sort of now understand why Villa and Hull are interested in paying for a PL-winning England international.

True (although I think Livermore is a decent player to be fair) but I suppose you can argue that in cases like McCormack it's desperation on the clubs behalf/good agent/proven player. McCormack scored 30 goals for example last season, if he scored that again you could argue Fulham would go up and then they recoup that money...he's proven talent. I don't think the same can be said for Cleverley. Not saying he's as worse than McCormack but he just doesn't have that selling point about him. His attributes and contributions the last few years just seems to be lingering around a team he's not good enough to be a part of.

Part of my does sometimes sympathise with him, he didn't ask to be in a position where we had no one better. He probably would be a half decent player if we addressed the issues earlier and let him develop a bit more "naturally" instead he got thrust in to the limelight and was made a scapegoat for all our failings and is usually the go to caption when people want to slate our midfield. Equally though he did make the most of the "Fame" that being at United brought him and part of me thinks he brought the abuse on himself....course some of that goes to far.
 
I hope he does well. Unfortunately he's not been good enough but he's a players who's come through the academy and has given his all to play for the club. It's the right decision to let him go but hard feelings towards him, hope he can revive his career.
 
My fella the Villa supporter is ecstatic! :wenger:

It's a lie, of course, but I'm trying to cheer him up with tall tales bout the Cleverley we once knew, and how Keane will scare the fear right out of him. Seriously though, I hope he can thrive in a new environment. Godspeed!
 
For big clubs yes because they have to keep homegrown quota in Europe. I'd say Villa's chances of making serious impact in Europe are non-existent and they have a pretty solid English backbone as far as I remember so another English player isn't worth as much to them as he'd be to City or Chelsea. £9m is ridiculous for a player who has been out of form for a long time and generally isn't all that. £5m would probably be maximum I'd pay in their position.

I guess the new TV deal has made PL clubs more eager to spend money.

I think we could be on the verge of seeing the smaller top flight clubs up their spending, to conincide with the increase of what 50 million could get you years ago, compared to now. 11m for ROSS MCCORMACK ffs...
 
The hate for Cleverley is unbelievable. He never became the player we all wanted him to be but some of the flack he gets...you'd think he played for Liverpool. I don't even think Daniel Sturridge gets the same level of abuse off the CAF as Cleverley.
 
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Good move for all parties I think. Cleverley, Delph and Carlos Sanchez is a decent midfield.
 
I think we could be on the verge of seeing the smaller top flight clubs up their spending, to conincide with the increase of what 50 million could get you years ago, compared to now. 11m for ROSS MCCORMACK ffs...

True. It is a matter of a couple of years before the likes of Villa, Southampton etc. start spending £25m on a player. Everton paid £28m for Lukaku, twice their previous record.
 
Let's get rid of all the low confidence and deadwood. Sorry to see how you regressed Clevs, but Villa is your level.

But £9m for Clevs is brilliant! Well done Ed.
 
It was clear that it was never going to work out. Still, he was a part of the squad when we were successful. Feeling gutted with so many players leaving but an identity change is needed badly.
 
Fletcher's okay to keep around the place, he's got a great attitude and everyone respects him.

Even if he doesn't add any value on the pitch, he adds some off it, unlike Cleverley.
 
I'm actually quite disappointed. I wanted LVG to improve some of the homegrown lads. I guess Welbeck is next.

I was more interested in seeing what he does with Januzaj, Pereira, Wilson, Rothwell etc.

Cleverley was never going to make it.
 
9 is a fair fee. Cleverley is an England international when confident, and he has experience of winning the league and playing in the CL.

Sure he is damaged goods at present, but for a team like Villa he could do very well. I hope he rebuilds his career and goes on to do some good things.

I am also happy we managed to get a half decent fee, the way we usually sell I expected half.
 
True. It is a matter of a couple of years before the likes of Villa, Southampton etc. start spending £25m on a player. Everton paid £28m for Lukaku, twice their previous record.

It was only ever going to be a matter of time really, the inflation in football only for a time seemed to be happing to world class or top class players, not it's begging to filter down.
 
Fletcher's okay to keep around the place, he's got a great attitude and everyone respects him.

Even if he doesn't add any value on the pitch, he adds some off it, unlike Cleverley.

I think one thing we can all say about Fletch is that he's a fighter. To come back from a career ending illness deserves great respect. He's not going to be fazed by his own poor form. He'll work towards getting it right.
 
The hate for Cleverley is unbelievable. He never became the player we all wanted him to be but some of the flack he gets...you'd think he played for Liverpool. I don't even think Daniel Sturridge gets the same level of abuse of the CAF as Cleverley.
Yeah, it's a bit unfair, I agree.
Problem is he retreated into his shell so much, so became like synonymous with the current 'scared and hiding' United. I'm sure the lad has it in him to play so much better; we've seen him do it, right?
Absolutely the right time for him to move on and get his head sorted. Keane is the man to do it, I hope. :devil:
 
Well done Ed, pays too much for playes but also gets too much for players it seems, wish Tom the best but he is just no United quality.
Yeah according to SSN, we also got £2.5m for Bebe and £4.4m for Buttner. Sold Tom, Buttner and Bebe to cover for Rojo's fees.
 
He isn't worth £9 million so well done Ewar.
 
You're all quite cringeworthy. Getting all giddy over £9m.
At this point out of Fletcher and Cleverley, I'd rather Cleverely stayed.
I wish him luck though. Hope he does well at Villa.
 
good luck to him. Villa is decent club and he'll get plenty of opportunities there.

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Yeah according to SSN, we also got £2.5m for Bebe and £4.4m for Buttner. Sold Tom, Buttner and Bebe to cover for Rojo's fees.

Bebe joined Benfica on a free. The €3m was just what we could make in bonuses depending on probably international appearances and them winning the cup/league.
 
You're all quite cringeworthy. Getting all giddy over £9m.
At this point out of Fletcher and Cleverley, I'd rather Cleverely stayed.
I wish him luck though. Hope he does well at Villa.
If we keep all the deadwood, we can't even promote from within the club. Fletcher was never going to be sold due to his seniority in the club and after that being name vice captain.
 
You're all quite cringeworthy. Getting all giddy over £9m.
At this point out of Fletcher and Cleverley, I'd rather Cleverely stayed.
I wish him luck though. Hope he does well at Villa.

You're missing the point. We'd rather have him around for squad depth, but if he were to go £9m is a terrific deal for a player quickly losing value.
 
If we're selling Cleverley what does this mean for Fletcher? He shouldn't be playing either.
We're not going to sell a guy a week after he's been appointed VC, and on top of that one of the few CMs we have left.
 
Selling Clevz is as close to a confirmation that we're getting another CM in. Happy days.
 
It was only ever going to be a matter of time really, the inflation in football only for a time seemed to be happing to world class or top class players, not it's begging to filter down.

The disparity between English clubs and the rest of Europe is becoming ridiculous though. 14th placed English team have more financial power than 5th placed German, Spanish and Italian teams I think. And the shocking thing is they are still getting better players and are playing better football than English clubs.
 
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