Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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If we have genuinely received £9m for Tom Cleverley then I think he will be personally driven to Hull by LVG himself. Good player with a lot of ability, but he needs to be confident and he will just never feel that at Old Trafford in my opinion. He will only be sold if a CM comes in.

LvG will drive him down there and Cleverley will turn down the move.
 
Problem is we will have no fit midfielders at all soon.
 
Nine million Pounds? Good grief, nice to see the "pay quadruple what they're worth cause they're English" rule is still in full effect, then.
 
It says it all that someone who has played over forty league games for us over the last couple of years is only wanted by Hull and Villa.

Yes, it would be easy to make an unflattering comparison with where Real's cast offs end up...But 9 million would be a decent fee if true. You can always rely on Brucey (or Keano if it's Villa). And he may actually do a job for a mid to lower half team.
 
If we have genuinely received £9m for Tom Cleverley then I think he will be personally driven to Hull by LVG himself. Good player with a lot of ability, but he needs to be confident and he will just never feel that at Old Trafford in my opinion. He will only be sold if a CM comes in.
A lot of ability?? I think not. He's regressed rapidly like a lot of our players.
 
Gibson is a better player than Cleverley imo yet both were and are not good enough for United.
I think they're about the same level. Decent, earned their chance but didn't quite reach the standard and will have good careers elsewhere. Both decent but unexceptional all rounders with only a couple of attributes that earned them a chance at United. Gibbo had an absolute hammer of a boot and Cleverley has a good one touch passing game which I always felt was more suited to being the most advanced in a 3.

I agree 9m is decent for both parties.
 
If we flog him after the Burnley game we will have two weeks recovery time for our injured midfielders.

Sounds like only Herrera will be back in that time frame though.

But yeah I take the point. And we are clearly still trying to buy too.
 
I really won't miss him. I mean, I'd miss Welbeck, cause he has talent, and he made an effort and was genuinely fairly unlucky in his time due to the fact that we've always been well stocked up front. But Cleverley has had umpteen chances in our rubbish midfield, he could've absolutely revelled in it and instead he's regressed, and looked more and more out of his depth as time went on, going more and more into hiding and being more and more afraid to, heaven forbid, try and making a fecking mark on the club.

He's an academy player, and I wish him well (if he goes), but at the same time, I'll be grateful if he does go.
 
£8m or more for Cleverley in the last year of his contract...

Ha that would be amazing business.
 
I think he would be a good signing for someone for anything less than 10m. Good player, just hasn't quite kicked on. Could do very well away from the heat.
 
To be fair, James MacArthur is worth 7m these days.
That is true. When McCormack goes for £11m, Borini for £14m, Long for £12m, Livermore for £8m, Cleverley for £8-9m is about right.

Then again, unlike the others, he's in the last year of his contract.
 
We should hold out for at least £12m, he is going to be a regular for England now to fill the void left by Gerrard and Lampard.
 
We should hold out for at least £12m, he is going to be a regular for England now to fill the void left by Gerrard and Lampard.
How are you coming to that conclusion? He was a regular for England whilst they were still around, he then dropped out of the squad through generally being a bit crap, whilst they were still around, and England, for all their lack of talent, still have loads of better midfielders than him.
 
Bite their fecking hand off.
 
9m is a fair price. I wish him luck, Aston Villa is about his level in my opinion.
 
Poorly managed last season and doesn't seem to have recovered. Was playing aimless passes at the weekend without even making sure the player was still open.
 
That is true. When McCormack goes for £11m, Borini for £14m, Long for £12m, Livermore for £8m, Cleverley for £8-9m is about right.

Then again, unlike the others, he's in the last year of his contract.

That's not really how transfers work though. For some part it does I suppose, i.e. Bale's price would of been dictated by Neymar/Ronaldo etc but it's not a simple case of "Livermore cost 8m so Cleverley is 9m" there's various factors in the deal.

Cleverley isn't really needed at United anymore if the press are to be believed, that would lower his value somewhat as the club want him off the books (freeing up wages and getting a fee for him) for example. There's other factors to, how marketable they are, how much the other club needs them, how much competition there is from others to sign him wuich may increase the deal.

Someone like Cleverley who's a bit of a laughing stock really and the butt of jokes for United fans doesn't really have that much of a demand to have a high transfer fee I'd say. At the moment he's really seen to be punching above his weight and at a bit of a crossroads in his career. This could be a good move for him but he could also just end up as another player like Keiran Richardson for example just floating around average premier league/championship clubs.
 
£9m is a great price for Clevz. I think he'd actually do well at Hull, Bruce has turned them into a decent team.
 
So that'd almost be a combined £25million for Hernandez and Cleverley which almost covers the Herrera transfer. Not bad.
 
That's not really how transfers work though. For some part it does I suppose, i.e. Bale's price would of been dictated by Neymar/Ronaldo etc but it's not a simple case of "Livermore cost 8m so Cleverley is 9m" there's various factors in the deal.

Cleverley isn't really needed at United anymore if the press are to be believed, that would lower his value somewhat as the club want him off the books (freeing up wages and getting a fee for him) for example. There's other factors to, how marketable they are, how much the other club needs them, how much competition there is from others to sign him wuich may increase the deal.

Someone like Cleverley who's a bit of a laughing stock really and the butt of jokes for United fans doesn't really have that much of a demand to have a high transfer fee I'd say. At the moment he's really seen to be punching above his weight and at a bit of a crossroads in his career. This could be a good move for him but he could also just end up as another player like Keiran Richardson for example just floating around average premier league/championship clubs.
No, I agree with you and was at first mighty surprised we were even getting money for him, let alone £9m. All I'm saying is similar shite/average players like McCormack and Livermore have gone for similar amounts or more. I can sort of now understand why Villa and Hull are interested in paying for a PL-winning England international.
 
Hope he goes on to have a decent career with at club at his level, if he leaves that is.
 
Doing my happy dance :drool:

Does leave us a bit thin but hopefully it means we've got some coming in. Even Powell deserves his chance more than Cleverly
 
I had high hopes for our Tom. Hope he does well there and manages to express himself better as a big fish in a smaller pond (as opposed to the opposite here). Hope he does well and given that Fabian Delph has gained an England call up I'm sure Tom can work his way back in the England set-up in the future (England's midfield options are hardly world class) once he gets his confidence up and plays a bit better. I'd rather he went to Hull, actually. I like Bruce and what he is doing there.
 
Doing my happy dance :drool:

Does leave us a bit thin but hopefully it means we've got some coming in. Even Powell deserves his chance more than Cleverly

Judging from the way he ambled around at Milton Keynes, no.
 
Doing my happy dance :drool:

Does leave us a bit thin but hopefully it means we've got some coming in. Even Powell deserves his chance more than Cleverly

I don't give a shit about us having 'bodies' if the best Cleverley has to offer is the performance he turned in last weekend. I'd rather just put Rothwell or Pereira in there.

I'd like to see more of Powell too, although he didn't cover himself in glory by any stretch on Tuesday.
 
I'd bit someone's hand off if they offer 9 mil for him. I was resigned to sell him for about 4 mil to Everton.
 
If he's off who do we play tomorrow in midfield? Herrera better be fit enough to play.
 
£9 million for Cleverley with a short contract would be fantastic.

Villa have Westwood who is a similar type of player and similar level to Cleverley, I wouldn't even guarantee that he'd keep a starting spot there
 
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