Tom Cleverley | 2012-14 Performances

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I thought the challenge from De Rossi was a good thing only to see how Cleverley would react given what happened last season...he just picked himself up and got on with it. No whining to make himself a target or shrinking out of the game. Good stuff.
 
I thought the challenge from De Rossi was a good thing only to see how Cleverley would react given what happened last season...he just picked himself up and got on with it. No whining to make himself a target or shrinking out of the game. Good stuff.

He's a living cure to United's little Zombie Apocalypse.
 
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/chelseas-lampard-full-praise-man-utds-cleverley-3453881

Chelsea ace Frank Lampard was impressed by Manchester United midfielder Tom Cleverley during England's victory over Italy.

Cleverley was impressive alongside the Blues veteran.

Lampard said: "I thought he did very well. I am impressed with him as a lad and as player.

"Watching him play for Manchester United and Team GB, he is a very accomplished footballer. I think he has got it all at his feet.

"He has got great feet, is a good personality. I like him a lot.

"He was not fazed and that probably comes from playing at Old Trafford, playing with good players, but it is still a step up to play for England and it was his debut. He took to it and made it look easy."
 
"He was not fazed and that probably comes from playing at Old Trafford, playing with good players, but it is still a step up to play for England

No Frank, it's not.
 
Anyhow, it's a huge season for Cleverley. There's a spot next to Carrick to be won. I don't think we need a massively creative midfield with the wingers and attacking players we've got. We just need a functional one to support the backline and provide a platform for the attack.
 
No Frank, it's not.

I was thinking that, but then I realised that the only two players to have come out of playing for England in recent times with any credit whatsoever are perhaps the two best players in their respective positions that this country has ever produced. Maybe not a step up in terms of quality, but it's probably a good sign that he looked like an actual footballer the other night.
 
Anyhow, it's a huge season for Cleverley. There's a spot next to Carrick to be won. I don't think we need a massively creative midfield with the wingers and attacking players we've got. We just need a functional one to support the backline and provide a platform for the attack.

He just needs to play the same way he did at the beginning of last season. Fearless midfielder and judging by his England debut he will do just fine for us. That is if Fergie decides to play him since Scholes, Carrick and Kagawa seem to be ahead of him in the pecking order.
 
Here's the full text so people don't have to go through 6 pages of ads:

Tom: The patient virtuoso

After making his long-awaited England debut, Tom Cleverley again demonstrated that, for all the setbacks and frustration of his fledgling career to date, his talent is ultimately worth every second of the wait…

It doesn’t take a jaw-dropping introduction to make a lasting impression.

Wayne Rooney and Kiko Macheda opened vacuum-packed infamy with goalscoring United debuts, while Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes immediately showed glaring traits which would become their hallmarks for decades to come. But while they immediately took centre stage in their teens, Tom Cleverley has taken the long road to prominence.

Even his England bow against Italy - labelled 'outstanding' by ITV pundit and Reds legend Roy Keane - came at the third time of asking after earlier call-ups were curtailed by injury and, slightly surreally, the 2011 London riots. As he demonstrated with a devastatingly functional outing in Berne last night, Cleverley’s patience is invariably validated.

For years a prisoner in an unfledged physique which forced his deployment out of position and spawned a string of serious impact injuries, the Basingstoke-born schemer made his competitive debut 11 years after joining United, having embarked on three loan deals and four pre-season campaigns with the Reds.

“He’s had to be patient, ” admits Andy Cleverley, Tom’s father. “He’s waited, ridden the frustration of being slow to grow, stuck to United’s development plan for him and it’s all been worth it now that he’s broken into the first team setup. He’s worked so hard for this for most of his life.”

Cleverley’s career path only deviated towards the Reds at the last minute, when it had been set to take him elsewhere. An outstanding member of Bradford City’s School of Excellence – who spotted him playing for the under-11s side of local team Eccleshill United at the age of seven - Tom was soon being circled by bigger sharks. Leeds and Blackburn had made him offers before United pounced.

“We got home from a family holiday there was a message on the answer machine from [United’s local recruitment officer] Derek Langley saying Manchester United wanted to sign Tom,” recalls Andy. “It took around a nanosecond for us to decide our next step!”

Halfway into a four-week trial at Carrington, Tom was offered terms to join the club and he went straight into United’s under-11s, climbing through the ranks year-by-year, usually as a full-back because of his diminutive stature, until he came to the under-16s. At this point, Cleverley began to suffer non-growing pains.

“It wasn’t that he was being bullied by bigger lads,” says Andy, “because he’s always been fearless. It was the running that got him down. He was being outrun by lads who were worse runners than him, just because they had much longer strides, and of course he couldn’t do anything about that.
“That used to frustrate him because he knew he was playing against lads who were inferior to him football-wise, but they were dominating him physically. He was genuinely tiny, and when the time came to move up to under-18s football, there was no way Tom was physically ready for it.”

That posed a problem to United’s coaching staff: sever ties with a player patently unprepared for the next step, or manufacture a situation to aid his progression. Fortunately, Tom had believers in high places.

“Both [Under-18s manager] Paul McGuinness and [former director of youth football] Jimmy Ryan never had any doubt of Tom as a footballer,” says Cleverley Senior. “They were absolutely convinced about his technical capability and Paul persevered with him. I think Paul stuck his neck out for Tom because he believed in him so much as a footballer. I’ve no doubt that if he was at any other club in the country, he’d have been released at 14 or 15 because he was genuinely tiny.”

"Sometimes you just get a feeling about people,” recalls McGuinness. “Tom was very dedicated. Even when he was very young, you could see he had good eyes. When you were talking, he was listening. His eyes were popping out of his head. He was staring at you, sucking it all in. Although he was not outstanding as a player at that stage, you could see he was bright.

“He had talent and was a lot smaller than everybody else but that desire hit you in the face. He wanted to learn. He's a sensible boy and was willing to listen and do whatever you said. We went away to a tournament in Kenya when he was 16 and the way he went about things - on and off the field - showed that he was worth giving a chance to.”

McGuinness proposed that Tom be held back a year and remain an Academy student, rather than follow the rest of his age band into the 2006 Academy intake. Though akin to repeating a year at school, the youngster shrugged off any embarrassment.

“He was already close mates with Danny Drinkwater and Danny Welbeck, so dropping down a year and playing with his mates didn’t faze him too much,” says Andy. “That season did him the world of good in terms of giving him confidence.”

Belatedly, Tom’s body began to match his mind’s readiness. He became an integral part of McGuinness’ under-18s in 2006/07, and was an ever-present in United’s FA Youth Cup run until he suffered a broken leg before the semi-final, second leg. That, at a time when his body was acclimatising to its own substantial changes, would provide the first instalment of niggling misfortune with impact injuries.

He would play just once more for the under-18s before making the step up to the Reserves. In 2008, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer took charge of the second string, began fielding Cleverley in midfield and imbibed him with self-confidence. “Ole gave Tom the belief that he could make it to the top,” says Cleverley Senior. A rip-roaring opening to the season convinced United’s coaches that Tom was ready for competitive league football.

He joined Nigel Pearson’s Leicester City in early 2009 for a successful 10-week spell latterly soured by a dislocated shoulder. It proved almost a dress rehearsal for his full-season loan at Watford in 2009/10, where knee ligament damage – suffered amid a tangle with West Brom behemoth Jonas Olsson – couldn’t stop the midfielder romping to victory in the Hornets’ Player of the Year voting.

“That season was an unbelievable experience for him,” says Andy. “The first half of the season was sensational. He scored on his debut against Nottingham Forest at the City Ground. I’m a Forest fan and I was in the visitors’ section jumping up and down like a lunatic celebrating a goal against my team. My old man would have turned in his grave!

“But he kept scoring and had eight goals in his first sixteen games. The thinness of the squad began to show, though, and they slipped down the table, but even that was a good education for him – I remember Tom saying at the time that nobody wanted relegation on their CV.”

Cleverley returned to United and, for the third summer in succession, played a goalscoring role in the first team's pre-season tour. When he failed to make the campaign’s first five squads, however, the youngster implored Sir Alex Ferguson to sanction a loan deal with Wigan, a move which ultimately benefited all parties as the Latics stayed in the top flight and Tom savoured a season of Premier League experience.

Another impressive contribution to the Reds' 2011 US Tour suggested that he was ready for first team involvement; an inkling confirmed when he flipped the Community Shield on its head, starring as a proactive hub of industry as United came from two goals down to triumph.

The midfielder’s first four Premier League outings whet the collective appetite, until a lunging challenge from Bolton’s Kevin Davies damaged his ankle ligaments and ruled him out for six weeks. The legacy of that tackle was aggravated in his next start, at Everton, and he limped from the fray for almost four months.

Cleverley returned to full fitness at a time when the team was going full pelt to retain the Premier League title, restricting him to substitute cameos until the end of the campaign. As breakthrough seasons go, 2011/12 was a bittersweet campaign for the midfielder.

In keeping with his career to date, setbacks and frustration rotated with brilliance and acclaim, but the negatives were used to galvanise the positives. Small but tough. Modest but confident. Eager but calm. Nothing to grab headlines, merely a soothing fluency in the basics of touch, control, passing and movement.

Crucially, for all his ability, Tom Cleverley underpins his talent with level-headed work ethic and patience. This young man’s tale has been a long time in the telling, but the next few chapters should be well worth the wait.
 
I think one look at Cleverley's face in-game is enough to tell you he means business as far as wanting to be a United first team player is concerned. The guy looks absolutely driven.
 
So glad we've got a young midfielder with so much promise and at the same time love for the club due to being here since he was in early teens if I remember correctly. I don't see him leaving the club anytime soon (or ever, although you can never be certain about things like that).
Atleast 10 good years left in him, might be even more, and he's all ours :D
 
One of a few players who did well today, looking forward to see him more this season, real class player if he could stay fit.
 
He played well, but should not be partnered up with Scholes. We are basically fecked if Carrick gets injured.

To not have another player that is similar to Carrick in our squad is down right negligent of SAF.
 
Was really good in the first half. Struggled to get into the second as we became poorer and poorer on the ball. By the end all we were doing was giving it wide and getting crosses in and he wasn't much of a factor by then apart from giving to the nearest wide man.
 
For the members who know the player well, how far off is he of his 'old' game? He looked decidedly impotent compared to what I recall of him - is that still him finding his legs or just a bad match?
 
He was pretty pointless today. Didn't win the ball much, didn't create many chances. High tempo, quick sideways/backwards passing. That's it.
 
He was pretty pointless today. Didn't win the ball much, didn't create many chances. High tempo, quick sideways/backwards passing. That's it.

Jesus. What absolute fecking horseshit. This place is a mad-house after a defeat, it really is....

But yeah, Tom Cleverley. Played well IMO. Encouraging. Could be a really key player this season.
 
For the members who know the player well, how far off is he of his 'old' game? He looked decidedly impotent compared to what I recall of him - is that still him finding his legs or just a bad match?

I was disappointed not to see him try to run with the ball at his feet more until fairly deep in the second half. He's certainly not firing on all cylinders yet but I don't think the way we played helped.

At the moment there appear to be two Man Utd's one that tries to play short 1-2s, the other that wants to go wide and get the crosses in. Cleverley showed for the ball and was ignored a lot because there was still the instinct to go wide from many players even when the 4-3-3 we were playing meant we couldn't overload the wide areas and stretch Everton. Kagawa suffered from the same thing.

The style of play Cleverley wanted to do he could only really pull off when he was in close proximity to Kagawa but when he was far from him he often found himself either bypassed or getting the ball, giving it and not having his run spotted for the return.

In the end he did start taking the ball on a bit more as a result (which seemed to just lead to him getting fouled repeatedly) but not as much as he should have and not as early as he should've either. He'll have better days.
 
Got on the ball loads and passed it around crisply, but it was just too crowded to create anything. Happens to the best of them when a team defends so narrowly, even the mighty Barca. Hope he keeps playing, judging by Neville's post match comments SAF really likes him so he just needs a partner to compliment him.
 
I thought he was decent tonight: he made more tackles than anyone on the pitch (for both sides), made a lot of passes and made most of them successfully. I did wonder at one point though, if he had some kind of private bet going with Jack Rodwell, to see who could make the most sideways and backwards passes on the opening weekend.

I do feel that he and Scholes were too much of a muchness in there tonight, we really needed a midfielder top match up to Fellani in terms of physique, it is the same problem that we have with Yaya Toure when we play City. I think that this ugly Mexican chap might fit the bill, from the little I have read.
 
I'm not sure what anyone expects out of him when he is having to play with Scholes, especially with Scholes being on a yellow for the majority of the match. His best play usually comes when he has the freedom to make forward runs out of the midfield and make short passes around the area and that zone was very crowded and our movement was crap.
 
That wasn't criticism, that's you not having a fecking clue.

Chances Created 1
Interceptions 1
Aerial Duels 1/4
Not to mention that God awful placement shot when he should have just leathered it.

He is a good player. But we need some bite in the midfield and he doesn't provide that. If we had an enforcer in the midfield it would help players like Cleverley to perform better & do what they do best.
 
At the moment there appear to be two Man Utd's one that tries to play short 1-2s, the other that wants to go wide and get the crosses in. Cleverley showed for the ball and was ignored a lot because there was still the instinct to go wide from many players even when the 4-3-3 we were playing meant we couldn't overload the wide areas and stretch Everton. Kagawa suffered from the same thing.

Yep, noticed the same thing. It made me worry that SAF is going to pull a square peg in a round hole with Kagawa rather than build around him with him in the hole

Thanks for the info on Tom. I imagine it's still him finding his legs then too
 
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Not to mention that God awful placement shot when he should have just leathered it.

He is a good player. But we need some bite in the midfield and he doesn't provide that. If we had an enforcer in the midfield it would help players like Cleverley to perform better & do what they do best.

Exactly. Carrick in a deep lying role. Cleverley in a box to box role and Kawaga as the link between midfield and attack.
 
I thought he was decent tonight: he made more tackles than anyone on the pitch (for both sides), made a lot of passes and made most of them successfully. I did wonder at one point though, if he had some kind of private bet going with Jack Rodwell, to see who could make the most sideways and backwards passes on the opening weekend.

I do feel that he and Scholes were too much of a muchness in there tonight, we really needed a midfielder top match up to Fellani in terms of physique, it is the same problem that we have with Yaya Toure when we play City. I think that this ugly Mexican chap might fit the bill, from the little I have read.

This did my head in. I feel sometimes he tried being too safe just to make sure he doesn't lose possession. Needs to have little more faith in his ability to create some thing.
 
He was good today, one of the positives IMO.
 
He is all right, not spectacular, he certainly needs to add a bit of variety (through balls, over the top) to his game.
 
I think he made many sideways and back passes because he wants to build his confidence but doing the "little" things consistently before trying more elaborate passing.
 
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