Didn't the Cleverley to Newcastle thing visibly break down a few weeks back?
I could have sworn that a few weeks back Hughton came out and pretty much said yeah he's a good lad but he won't get a whole lot of time here.
There are maybe two or three clubs in the league who would play him on a regular basis, and that'd be only because they're so bad that there's no one else to play, like Blackpool. And he won't get much chance to show his creativity and vision there with Brett Ormerod up front.
He said that the main sticking point was being able to meet United's demands for him to play a certain amount of games. He didn't give the impression it was a deal-breaker.
I was quite pleased to hear us include a clause of that nature. It's a good idea and stops any potential loanee ending up like Guiseppe Rossi.
By the sounds of it up here (North-East) a similar clause has stopped Welbeck going to Sunderland, we want him to start regularly, they want him as back up to Bent, Jones & Campbell.
In Welbeck's case Blackburn and Blackpool are believed to be guaranteeing first team football. Hopefully Blackburn or Bolton will go for Cleverley.
We can only loan one player to each team right? Would be brilliant if both of them could join the same club.
Good.
Wouldn't mind seeing him Blackburn/Blackpool so. Sunderland can get fcuked.
Don't think that's a rule. There's a limit to how many loans a side can take from other PL teams (think it's two) but there's nothing I'm aware of that would stop Blackburn (for example) from taking Cleverley and Welbeck
Matty James and Welbeck both went on loan to Preston at the same time last season.
I do know there's more limits when it comes to loaning from another Premier League clubs (as compared to loans from a club in a different division), I think (and could be wrong) you're only allowed two loans from other PL clubs
It's a maximum of two loans from other PL clubs and you can't loan more than one player from another PL club. So the idea of Welbeck and Cleverley going to the same PL club on loan is a non-starter.
Cheers, thought it was two from PL clubs but didn't realise there was a limit of one from a single club. Shame, but c'est la vie. To be honest, if we can't find Cleverley a good loan I'd be happy to keep him. Welbeck & Diouf on the other have have more competition for fewer places so need loan moves
Gosling, Alan Smith, Nolan, Gutierrez, Guthrie and Joey Barton. Would he get a game? I wouldn't be in favour of this loan move at all.
If he had go to a prem club the one i'd be most in favour of would be Bolton. Close to Manchester, manager keen to give young players a chance, and should be guaranteed regular action.
Im happy with that move. Hes staying locally, will be getting games. Can keep in close contact with the club everyday. What more could you ask for in a loan move?
I don't think it will matter. We still have a lot of options and Carrick even gone a month or so won't stop it from happening.
This is the same thing that can happen later in the season.
Well an injury to Fletcher and we'd be left with Giggs, Scholes and Gibson for centre midfield. Basically, we'd be screwed. Not sure if it'd be wise loaning a versatile player out when we don't need to, in these circumstances. unless we're intending on buying someone of course
But, the same thing can happen as the season goes. What happens if one of them got hurt Sept 2nd (not that there is a game).
If Carrick is missing a month from this and holding up Cleverly the next 4+ months for games he most likely won't play in doesn't make sense.
Carrick's injury is a twisted ankle - not sure how long that will put him out.
It's not like we're going to play him in the middle if we only play with 2 CMs.If one of those gets injured on Sept 2nd then we'd all be saying, 'why did we send Cleverley on loan'. Of course if we'd our full quota of midfielders it would be a different story, but the present injury situation is a tad worrying. Hopefully Carricks injury isn't too bad
SecondFig; said:Yep, plus Wigan try and play decent football which'll help. Good move for him.
Still no decision on Tom Cleverley - not even certain that #MUFC will definitely loan him out - Wigan, Bolton and Newcastle want him
