Yeah I guess so, so you think it's the story? Like these guys were on the way to a new life or off to a battle etc and never made it? So it's the human factor and tragedy behind it you're suggesting?
Titanic tourist submersible missing | Sub's debris found - crew "have been lost"
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Weird additional tragic instalment of Titanic's story over 100 years later. Very sad but it sounds like it was a disaster waiting to happen.
Good lord. What in the world did you type?
Thats a good plan. I can just copy the 'You will most likely Die' waiver and also make it a self guided tour.
Sad thing is, they probably won't be the last unless it gets outlawed or they raise the Titanic.
The engineering is cool. But if you were after engineering, you can go and visit a bridge or any other mundane modern structure. The pyramids are steeped in history, story, cultural value.
Text message I just received in a group…
I wonder where the billionaires "on board" really are and what this is a distraction for?
I wonder where the billionaires "on board" really are and what this is a distraction for?
I guess an implosion is a certain better and quicker way to go, than being stuck of 96 hours as oxygen slowly drained away.
Sounds like a boring life
Guy on Sky saying it would have been an instant death.
So what does a hull implosion look like? Would they have just been squashed instantly?
I know. They’re also an engineering marvel of the ancient world.
Some folks, like me, appreciate and visit them for both reasons.
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So the noises could have been anything and it's most likely they died an instantaneous death? Grim, but i suppose that's the better outcome than slowly losing oxygen and dying slowly.
What’s the frequency of dives by this company/submersible? Do they dive to the Titanic every month/every six months/a year?
I feel like people say this sometimes because it's what people want to hear.
Yep that and at what angle it might be at if its at some point along the graph etc. It featured constantly for the week or 2 that the world thought there was still people alive aboard it.
It’s the story yes. And people love morbidity and tragedy. For shipwrecks I imagine a big part of the allure is experiencing something remote, hidden, mysterious.
Similarly, there are quite a lot of people who even enjoy visiting abandoned warehouses and industrial sites. “Deserted” places are fascinating to many people.
This was something they did caution all along and they could not ascertain if it was indeed the Titan or not.
Couple of questions…
1. If the trip down & back was a success, how would the passengers deal with the bends or is that issue just with scuba divers?
2. Does the body collapse in on itself when experiencing such pressure at the bottom of the ocean? Heard it multiple times referred to as though a lead Empire State Building was on top of you if you lost cabin pressurization.
1. If the trip down & back was a success, how would the passengers deal with the bends or is that issue just with scuba divers?
2. Does the body collapse in on itself when experiencing such pressure at the bottom of the ocean? Heard it multiple times referred to as though a lead Empire State Building was on top of you if you lost cabin pressurization.
Too many conclusions being drawn from the debris found. There is no real information in the statement yet. Finding debris during a concerted search effort is hardly surprising. Couldn’t it be anything?
As are graveyards, of which the Titanic is definitely one.
@Pogue Mahone Slow lack of oxygen, wouldn't you fall asleep?
Instant death, very little awareness. And indeed, with the entire weight of the Atlantic Ocean is on top of them, complete pulverisation and no remains to be exhumed.
Well yes, but I suppose part of it is down to it being a huge thing at the time, and the massive fallout from it created its own momentum.
Unlike the Empress of Ireland two years later, which sank in about ten minutes following a collision and took over a thousand people down with it, the Titanic took ages to sink and there would have been plenty of time to get everyone off if there had been sufficient lifeboats and a proper plan to get people into them. The public outrage at the lack thereof set off a revolution in safety standards on passenger liners, which led to my grandpa being given the job in the Board of Trade to sort it out.
Remember also that the First World War started only two years later. The comfortable world of Edwardian Britain was immediately wiped out, and people viewed the Titanic disaster as a precursor; an example of hubris and self satisfaction that was destined to end badly.
I think shipwrecks, especially those to the dept of the Titanic, are not just graveyards. Given the history and the excitement/references over the years about the Titanic, it is isn't unnatural for people to be excited by the thought of visiting it. Besides, although many people died there, from what I read, there are actually no remains anymore and the bones/skeleton would have long been crushed to finer than powder.
F a p p i n gGood lord. What in the world did you type?
I’ve read that that is the case if it’s just a lack of oxygen, but since there is also a buildup of CO2 in the cabin, it would be anything from a peaceful death. Apparently it induces panic. No idea if it’s accurate.
Lollygagging on a remote beach in the Indian Ocean with all the MH 370 passengers?Text message I just received in a group…
I wonder where the billionaires "on board" really are and what this is a distraction for?
Interesting about the bones. Makes total sense.
I'm just guessing here but
1. I suspect the sub acts as a decompression chamber
2. If as described you'll a very thin layer of something, but you're dead anyway so it won't really matter![/QUOTE]
1. I believe they've stayed at the same pressurisation throughout so there is no issue with what you'd get as a scuba diver, where you do decompression stops to negate the affects.
2. You'd be crushed, imagine the force of the water would literally enter your body.
Not the same but extreme pressure on the body, it's grim; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin
Medical investigations were carried out on the remains of the four divers. The most notable finding was the presence of large amounts of fat in large arteries and veins and in the cardiac chambers, as well as intravascular fat in organs, especially the liver.[3]: 97, 101 This fat was unlikely to be embolic, but must have precipitated from the blood in situ.[3]: 101 The autopsy suggested that rapid bubble formation in the blood denatured the lipoprotein complexes, rendering the lipids insoluble.[3]: 101 The blood of the three divers left intact inside the chambers likely boiled instantly, stopping their circulation.[3]: 101 The fourth diver was dismembered and mutilated by the blast forcing him out through the partially blocked doorway and would have died instantly.[3]: 95, 100–101
Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Investigation by forensic pathologists determined that Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the crescent-shaped opening measuring 60 centimetres (24 in) long created by the jammed interior trunk door. With the escaping air and pressure, it included bisection of his thoracoabdominal cavity, which resulted in fragmentation of his body, followed by expulsion of all of the internal organs of his chest and abdomen, except the trachea and a section of small intestine, and of the thoracic spine. These were projected some distance, one section being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door.[3]: 95
Bear in mind, this was the pressure of 9-1 of air pressure. So 900m to 0 pressure change instantly did that. Cannot imagine what it was with several hundreds times more pressure with a denser medium.
Anybody that’s in the queue to do this now is even more mental than those that just went.
but there will always be someone I guess
Something tells me that it might be a long while til their next dive.
I imagine there would be a huge amount of panic that preceded that though which is the terrifying part.
This might be a dumb question but If the ship did implode would they have had any warning whatsoever that something was wrong with the sub before it happened or could it just happen out of the blue, instantly?
I've got an old megadrive controller you can have.
And these, jsut in case it goes tits up and you have to kill the other passengers to survive.
I will take them! With interest rates increasing, I need to be open minded to make this a success.
Yeah that makes sense, I'd love to visit Pripyat/Chernobyl to see what a town looks like when everyone just leaves at the same time and never comes back. Real ghost town vibes.
I guess the ocean has allure as well, it's almost alien. It's vastness and power is frighteningly impressive.