Thomas Vermaelen

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Current rumour is £15 million

Imagine if he was on a 3 year contract. Are people really saying he's a £20 million+ player?

Expensive CBs who cant defend. Why don't strikers who cant score cost as much?
 
So much about this rumoured transfer is wrong.

He can't defend.
Is always injured.
And is going to cost 6 million more than Arsenal paid for him, despite him being 5 years older and proven crock.

Bizzare!
 
So much about this rumoured transfer is wrong.

He can't defend.
Is always injured.
And is going to cost 6 million more than Arsenal paid for him, despite him being 5 years older and proven crock.

Bizzare!
Couldn't have said it better. Hope it's rubbish, really hope we break the bank and buy Hummels this window.
 
Couldn't have said it better. Hope it's rubbish, really hope we break the bank and buy Hummels this window.
There is absolutely no chance we'll get Hummels. I'm confident if he moves here we'll see a much better player that what he's recently shown.
 
Dreadful signing if this happens. He is never, ever fit. Don't understand why we are buying a crock.
 
Dreadful signing if this happens. He is never, ever fit. Don't understand why we are buying a crock.

Couldn't have said it better. Hope it's rubbish, really hope we break the bank and buy Hummels this window.

I do hope this is a smokescreen and we are in for a CB who is more of a Benetia/Hummels calibre player. Not sure what LVG sees in him but Ill have to defer to his experience on this one.
 
Hummels is impossible, no way he is going for 20 odd million. We should go for players that are quality (not saying Hummels isn't, just other quality players) who aren't in some midtable team and have another fellaini situation, or at least we know for certain we have a quality player who can step up. Players like vermaelen and Vlaar are ones we should be avoiding.
 
I'd be happy with this signing. It's clear we need a CB and not necessarily to go straight into the squad, more of a experienced back-up.

If one of Smalling/Jones/Evans were to get injured, then our back-ups would be Keane/Blackett/Carrick and that doesn't fill me with confidence. I'd much rather Vermelean to come in and provide cover.

Obviously I would much rather us sign Mangala, Hummels, Laporte etc but they aren't realistic targets, at least for this summer. If we can get Vermelean on the cheap, then we can go for a big CB next summer as there isn't a plethora of options at the moment.

Vermelean isn't a terrible defender. On his day, he can be a decent defender, good in the air and can distribute. In a back 3, he would improve even further I feel.
 
Watching the game against Liverpool the most striking this to me was panic in defense. Both positioning and distribution from the back were off. I haven't see much of Vermaelen to understand whether he can actually lead the back line. If we are just signing him as a back up, he could be an ok signing. But I don't know whether he's the first team material.
 
I'd be happy with this signing. It's clear we need a CB and not necessarily to go straight into the squad, more of a experienced back-up.

If one of Smalling/Jones/Evans were to get injured, then our back-ups would be Keane/Blackett/Carrick and that doesn't fill me with confidence. I'd much rather Vermelean to come in and provide cover.

Obviously I would much rather us sign Mangala, Hummels, Laporte etc but they aren't realistic targets, at least for this summer. If we can get Vermelean on the cheap, then we can go for a big CB next summer as there isn't a plethora of options at the moment.

Vermelean isn't a terrible defender. On his day, he can be a decent defender, good in the air and can distribute. In a back 3, he would improve even further I feel.

I don't agree, I think we need a first team player to partner up with Jones and Smalling, they are good defenders but they need somebody next to them for guidance. Vermaelens experience is useless is he can't play, and with his injurry record him playing around 30 games for us at the back sounds doubtfull. And £15m for a cover up player, no thanks !

Yea i'd take Vermaelen for £7m or something, not for £15million, especially because his contract is running out. We are getting mugged here by Arsenal and I don't like it. There are better players, far more reliable ones, out there for that kind of money.
 
I don't agree, I think we need a first team player to partner up with Jones and Smalling, they are good defenders but they need somebody next to them for guidance. Vermaelens experience is useless is he can't play, and with his injurry record him playing around 30 games for us at the back sounds doubtfull. And £15m for a cover up player, no thanks !

Yea i'd take Vermaelen for £7m or something, not for £15million, especially because his contract is running out. We are getting mugged here by Arsenal and I don't like it. There are better players, far more reliable ones, out there for that kind of money.

Which player would you bring in though?

I agree but there isn't anyone out there at the moment so I would take Vermelean. The likes of Hummels are never going to move this summer and Evans-Smalling-Jones is a solid back three, it's just likely they will get injured which is where Vermalean can be used but again it depends on the fee. £10m is fine, anything more and we should try other options.
 
I won't be surprised if we buy him after watching the struggles of our CBs when under pressure against Liverpool.

Van Gaal seems to be more system based so ill reserve my judgement on this signing until he plays some football - we've seen countless players excel in one system and then struggle when they find a new club, I hope that works in reverse here although the injuries are a worry.

The Netherlands World Cup campaign gives me hope after watching Ron Vlaar play brilliantly in the 5-2-1-2. Cover at left back is also a bonus. People referencing Hummels are in dream land.
 
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I reckon we got to Vermaelen via a flow chart.

Is he experienced -yes> in the premier league -yes> is he left footed -yes> can he carry the ball out -yes> is he easily acquired -yes>

Congratulations, you've chosen Vermaelen.
 
went to work and he was of to barca come back and we may be wasting our money on him after all!

sigh F**king appaling signing!
 
There is absolutely no chance we'll get Hummels. I'm confident if he moves here we'll see a much better player that what he's recently shown.
confident based on what? your hope? all the evidence is pointing to him be a worse player as he has been getting steadily worse in both injury and form over year on year.
 
confident based on what? your hope? all the evidence is pointing to him be a worse player as he has been getting steadily worse in both injury and form over year on year.

What's your alternative then if the Vermaelen signing is "appalling"?

Go into the season with 4 centre halfs including keane for 3 positions or spend what's left of the window chasing our tails with Hummels..
 
Which player would you bring in though?

I agree but there isn't anyone out there at the moment so I would take Vermelean. The likes of Hummels are never going to move this summer and Evans-Smalling-Jones is a solid back three, it's just likely they will get injured which is where Vermalean can be used but again it depends on the fee. £10m is fine, anything more and we should try other options.

Manolas (was great at the WC), Rami, Subotic, Semih, Astori, Chiriches, Ogbonna, Nkoulou, Vlaar etc

Not saying they would all be on the same level as Vermaelen when he is at his best, but it has been an age since Vermaelen has been at his best and these injurry problems are a serious downside for me. Those players would be much more reliable in terms of not getting injurred and some of them would be a far better investment considering their age.

I think it is a damn shame we didn't went for BMI or De vrij and I also think it is a damn shame we didn't involve ourselves in signing up Lovren.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Vermaelen is a big success here, why? LVG...

Vermaelen is crocked, really he is made of glass, he may have no serious injurrys but I guanratee you he steps out there for his first game and he'll get a knock and be out for a couple of weeks, he'll get another few games under the belt but before he could get on a role, boom another injurry and sidelined for another few weeks. it is just how things have been going for him for the last couple of years, at Arsenal but also in the Belgian national team, he is always injurred, always. Ofcourse there is always the possibility we could keep him fit, bit I seriously doubt that given the fact we almost always struggle with these injurrys, the risk is just too big for me.

Good player, yea sure, experience, leader all good, left footed, brilliant but always injurred so what is the point ?
 
The ABU's will have a field day if we conclude our business with Arsenal's 3rd choice, injury prone centre back and City's reject midfielder.
 
Vermaelen is crocked, really he is made of glass, he may have no serious injurrys but I guanratee you he steps out there for his first game and he'll get a knock and be out for a couple of weeks, he'll get another few games under the belt but before he could get on a role, boom another injurry and sidelined for another few weeks. it is just how things have been going for him for the last couple of years, at Arsenal but also in the Belgian national team, he is always injurred, always. Ofcourse there is always the possibility we could keep him fit, bit I seriously doubt that given the fact we almost always struggle with these injurrys, the risk is just too big for me.

Good player, yea sure, experience, leader all good, left footed, brilliant but always injurred so what is the point ?

You could have said the same before the RvP transfer..
 
Vermaelen at Arsenal:

2009-2010 - 45 apps all competitions
2010-2011 - 5 apps all competitions
2011-2012 - 40 apps all competitions
2012-2013 - 39 apps all competitions
2013-2014 - 21 apps all competitions

funny, to me that sounds like a player who has had a couple of bad injuries but otherwise is pretty damned good & capable of a lot of games in a season...
 
You could have said the same before the RvP transfer..

Except RVP just played an entire season for Arsenal without any injurry problems and looked in the best form of his life. We've been lucky that year we managed to keep him fit aswell because injurrys with RVP is still a massive problem we missed him alot last year and he never came into his best form either because of all the injurrys.

As I said we could be lucky about it for me personally the risk is too big. especially considering Jones, Evans and Smalling also have a tendency of getting injurred if he is supposed to be the cover and they are all injurred at the same time we are fecked.
 
Vermaelen is crocked, really he is made of glass, he may have no serious injurrys but I guanratee you he steps out there for his first game and he'll get a knock and be out for a couple of weeks, he'll get another few games under the belt but before he could get on a role, boom another injurry and sidelined for another few weeks. it is just how things have been going for him for the last couple of years, at Arsenal but also in the Belgian national team, he is always injurred, always. Ofcourse there is always the possibility we could keep him fit, bit I seriously doubt that given the fact we almost always struggle with these injurrys, the risk is just too big for me.

Good player, yea sure, experience, leader all good, left footed, brilliant but always injurred so what is the point ?
If i'm not mistaken, Arsenal conducted a review at the end of the season regarding the constant injuries their players were suffering. His issues could be to do with Wenger's out of date fitness methods maybe?

How was his injury record like before he joined Arsenal?
 
What's your alternative then if the Vermaelen signing is "appalling"?

Go into the season with 4 centre halfs including keane for 3 positions or spend what's left of the window chasing our tails with Hummels..
i honestly think signing no one is better, what is the point of buying a play who thier is little chance will be fit when he is called upon, never mind be any kind of form to contribute.....

as for who id sign, id go for vlaar, but no one is better then vermarlen, as at least we arnt throwing millions upon millions away just for the sake of having another cb on the books
 
i honestly think signing no one is better, what is the point of buying a play who thier is little chance will be fit when he is called upon, never mind be any kind of form to contribute.....

as for who id sign, id go for vlaar, but no one is better then vermarlen, as at least we arnt throwing millions upon millions away just for the sake of having another cb on the books

So you would rather sign no one than Vermaelen? Jaysus I would swear he was a pub team player if I only read this thread..

He's a quality player.. experienced, a goal scoring centre half, good technically. I think he could excel in our new system to be honest.

Vlaar isn't superior to Vermaelen, what are you basing this view on, a few games in Brazil.
 
Nastasic would be a goos alternative if shitty are ready to sell him to us! They know nothing about nurturing young players.. They discarded Savic as a flop but look at him now, really coming good!

I'd like to see us take a punt at Nastasic, he looked like a superb talent 2 seasons back! One injury hit season and they decide to dump him!
 
Watching the game against Liverpool the most striking this to me was panic in defense. Both positioning and distribution from the back were off. I haven't see much of Vermaelen to understand whether he can actually lead the back line. If we are just signing him as a back up, he could be an ok signing. But I don't know whether he's the first team material.

He'd cause more panic with his brainfarts
 
Nastasic would be a goos alternative if shitty are ready to sell him to us! They know nothing about nurturing young players.. They discarded Savic as a flop but look at him now, really coming good!

I'd rather have take a punt at Nastasic, he looked like a superb talent 2 seasons back! One injury hit season and they decide to dump him!

No chance of this pal.. City aren't going to sell to us. Weakens them and strengthens us.

It is what it is, we would hardly be doing business with them for one of our better players.
 
He'd cause more panic with his brainfarts
I dont think Vermaelen's problem was him making mistakes.. It was injuries and lack of confidence imo, he was their most dependable player before injury struck him.
 
No chance of this pal.. City aren't going to sell to us. Weakens them and strengthens us.

It is what it is, we would hardly be doing business with them for one of our better players.
I know but from what I've been reading online they're trying very hard to sell him! Weird situation, they're being very shortsighted.

They did it with Jerome Boateng, Stefan Savic, Daniel Sturridge and now they're gonna do it with Nastasic.. Pity we cant sign him.
 
I know but from what I've been reading online they're trying very hard to sell him! Weird situation, they're being very shortsighted.

They did it with Jerome Boateng, Stefan Savic, Daniel Sturridge and now they're gonna do it with Nastasic.. Pity we cant sign him.

It's quotas bud, they have to offload 2 foreign players I believe.. Garcia and ?

Yeh look for what's it worth.. Quality centre half, but it won't happen. Look what happened when the scouse wanted Heinze
 
Are we really going to sign him?

Hes a decent player who could be really good if he was not injured so much but 15m for a injury prone player with 1 year left on his contract. Have we not learnt from wasting/over spending money on players like Fellaini and Young.

7m is the absolute max we should be spending.
 
You're all against the signing yet can't suggest an alternative, at least not attainable and for that price anyway.
 
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