Not when Vidic left for absolutely free.It would be a decent signing for 12m, provided that the medical checks out.
We need depth at CB and there aren't a lot of great alternatives out there.
In a Chevrolet/Adidas world, 12m is small change under the sofa cushion.
Not really comparable situations. We obviously want Vermaelen and Arsenal don't want to sell, thus high price. Does anyone want Young at his current wage? (I doubt he would voluntarily take a pay cut)
Michael Owen, Louis Saha, Owen Hargreaves....when will we ever learn?
I assume Jones since he's the worst of our current three.I wonder if van Gaal sees him as a starter or as cover. If a starter, who's place does he take?
The main question is; does he want to still be a squad player with us?
Someone who's getting more money. He shouldn't be getting his hopes up too much about starting anywhere with his injury record.This. I keep on reading nonsense like "well if he comes here, he'll be a squad player not a starter". Who leaves a backup role at their former club for another backup role at a new club- unless LVG makes him false promises or he really has no ambition and enjoys the bench. Maybe United's more comfy than Arsenal's
I'd imagine a deal will be concluded on his return from holiday, yeah.Is he still on holiday or what? He can't be that hard to buy, I know Wenger might make us work for it but in the end I doubt he'd be too fussed.
We might not be interest, I would say he's probably a last resort but in that case I don't know who we're after. Surely we're not actually trying to get Hummels.
Is he still on holiday or what? He can't be that hard to buy, I know Wenger might make us work for it but in the end I doubt he'd be too fussed.
We might not be interest, I would say he's probably a last resort but in that case I don't know who we're after. Surely we're not actually trying to get Hummels.
You can still pass a medical with a minor injury I think.Isn't he injured? If so wouldn't he fail the medical? I'd imagine that's what's holding up the deal.
This signing, if it happens, is so fecking stupid it makes my head hurt.
He's an injury prone defender (like we need another one of them) who is currently injured and even when he's fit he isn't good enough to get into Arsenal's team. Why is our prime defensive target some crock back-up from Arsenal?
You can still pass a medical with a minor injury I think.
I've no idea.I'm not sure how serious the injury is. I know he injured his knee, but I don't know how specifically. Do you know what the injury is?
i'd personly say smalling but thier you go lolI assume Jones since he's the worst of our current three.
Rooney passed it with his metatarsal broke, so you canYou can still pass a medical with a minor injury I think.
its not just the fee, its the wages, which will be around the 100k a week mark, and if hehas another season anything like the past 2 thier is zero chance any one would take him of our hands on those wages.It would be a decent signing for 12m, provided that the medical checks out.
We need depth at CB and there aren't a lot of great alternatives out there.
In a Chevrolet/Adidas world, 12m is small change under the sofa cushion.
its not just the fee, its the wages, which will be around the 100k a week mark, and if hehas another season anything like the past 2 thier is zero chance any one would take him of our hands on those wages.
so it around 30 million we stand to waste....would just be pure stupidity
its not just the fee, its the wages, which will be around the 100k a week mark, and if hehas another season anything like the past 2 thier is zero chance any one would take him of our hands on those wages.
so it around 30 million we stand to waste....would just be pure stupidity
For starters fellaini and Luke shaw earn 100k+. You don't have a wage bill of a £180m if you only have 4-5 players on 100k+. Vermaelen's supposedly going to earn 100k if the guardian are to be believed and it wouldn't surprise me if we're stupid enough to pay that amount too.Lol, they won't be around £100k a week mate. Only Rooney, Van Persie, Mata and Young earn £100k or more as far as I'm aware.
I'm not sure how accurate this site is, but as you can see, all our defenders are significantly below £100k per week.
http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/manchester-united-players-salaries-list/
Vermaelen would be £60k max imo.
For starters fellaini and Luke shaw earn 100k+. You don't have a wage bill of a £180m if you only have 4-5 players on 100k+. Vermaelen's supposedly going to earn 100k if the guardian are to be believed and it wouldn't surprise me if we're stupid enough to pay that amount too.
Well it's true but you keep thinking its rubbish though. Also where has shaw confirmed those rumours are false? Every reliable outlet ran with those figures for shaw. I can assure you that Luke Shaw wouldn't have come out and comment on his wages, he may have said he agreed his move before the World Cup but he wouldn't have come out and confirmed or denied any stories about how much he earns.I've never heard anything about Fellaini earning more than 100k per week so that's rubbish as far as I'm concerned. Shaw already confirmed that those rumours are false. I seriously doubt we'd consider paying anything near that for Vermaelen. He only has one year left on his contract and considering Arsenal probably won't renew it, he' ll need to take whatever we offer him (as realistically it will be higher than £50k) because it will be more than any other team will pay imo.
EDIT: Also, that wage estimate is from last season when we had Vidic on around £120k per week and Rio on around £100k per week, aswell as Evra on around £90k per week. This season's won't be released for a while.
Well it's true but you keep thinking its rubbish though. Also where has shaw confirmed those rumours are false? Every reliable outlet ran with those figures for shaw. I can assure you that Luke Shaw wouldn't have come out and comment on his wages, he may have said he agreed his move before the World Cup but he wouldn't have come out and confirmed or denied any stories about how much he earns.
Obviously in your world we can have so few players on over a 100k but somehow have a wage bill that's £180m, maybe even more for this year. That clearly makes a hell of a lot of sense.
That doesn't mean he's not on a 100k. We have the second highest wage bill, soon to be the highest in England, yet only 5 of our players earn more than a 100k according to him, that's some great maths right there.He denied earning more than Lahm on twitter, not sure how much Lahm earns.
That doesn't mean he's not on a 100k. We have the second highest wage bill, soon to be the highest in England, yet only 5 of our players earn more than a 100k according to him, that's some great maths right there.
Ahhhh fair enough.I'm not saying hes not on 100k, fact is we don't know. You however stated he wouldn't come out and comment on his wages, I simply pointed out he has.
Well it's true but you keep thinking its rubbish though. Also where has shaw confirmed those rumours are false? Every reliable outlet ran with those figures for shaw. I can assure you that Luke Shaw wouldn't have come out and comment on his wages, he may have said he agreed his move before the World Cup but he wouldn't have come out and confirmed or denied any stories about how much he earns.
Obviously in your world we can have so few players on over a 100k but somehow have a wage bill that's £180m, maybe even more for this year. That clearly makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I'm tired of responding to your ill informed posts now, in the earnings call for this quarter, woodward said that he predicts our wage bill to rise by double figure percentage next season even with a relatively high number of players leaving. I don't care if some newspapers have got a few wages wrong, common sense and a bit of maths should tell you that a fair few players must be on 100K+ for us to have such a huge wage bill.I've already told you that estimate is for last season when we had Vidic, Rio, Evra and Giggs on high wages. I've just checked and it's clear that all of your wage estimates are coming from newspapers which are not good sources for player wages. I know for example, that Evans is in fact on £65k per week because I remember the man utd website confirming it when he renewed his contract. I unfortunately can't find out all the wages with absolute certainty because there aren't many reliable sources for wages. After checking their salaries, I know Mata is on £150k per week and Van Persie is on £235k assuming the salary that shows up when you enter their names into google search is accurate. Apparently Rooney is on £18.1m per year. That seems crazy as he would be on £348k per week, yet I hadn't seen a single newspaper report that, they just said £300k per week. So, it's pretty clear to me that, for the most part at least, newspapers just guess wages or are given a rough estimate. From what I've heard, I'd estimate Fellaini is on wages somewhere between £75-80k per week. Shaw, I have no idea because I haven't seen anything reliable yet. However, I can't see them being anywhere outside the range of £50-70k.
I'm tired of responding to your ill informed posts now, in the earnings call for this quarter, woodward said that he predicts our wage bill to rise by double figure percentage next season even with a relatively high number of players leaving. I don't care if some newspapers have got a few wages wrong, common sense and a bit of maths should tell you that a fair few players must be on 100K+ for us to have such a huge wage bill.
Failing that, if you still feel you're in the right, then let's just agree to disagree.
No he wasn't, it was an investor's call, he's obliged to give a realistic prediction and I'm sure he's accounted for what he feels we'll get done realistically, also given how high our wage bill is, a double figure percentage rise, is quite high, so even if he's completely off with his prediction, our wage bill will likely stay the same.What you are missing out is that Woodward was saying that with a view on all of our transfer dealings, the window is still open.
No he wasn't, it was an investor's call, he's obliged to give a realistic prediction and I'm sure he's accounted for what he feels we'll get done realistically, also given how high our wage bill is, a double figure percentage rise, is quite high, so even if he's completely off with his prediction, our wage bill will likely stay the same.
why would we expect him not to have another season like that? just hope by changing clubs his injurys will stop and his form recover... thats a pretty a pretty big gamble considering the money involved, and how useless he has been the past two years.We're not going to spend that kind of cash on him. And if we did indeed expect him to have another horrifying two seasons then of course we wouldn't sign him.
