Thomas Lemar

Rozay said:
Might be a bit offensive, but I’d love to see him in a 3 with Pogba and Matic.
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Don't think it'd be too offensive at all. It's exactly what we need to get the balance right and a midfield 3 comparable to every one of the other top midfields in the world balance and quality wise. City use Silva and Kdb in front of fernandinho, which is way more attacking, but are having no problems.
Unfortunately I think he's off to Liverpool, but he'd be excellent here IMO.
 
I know transfer fees have gone crazy, but is he really worth £100m?

Someone in another thread called him a 'generational talent', which I find absolutely absurd.

Martial for example seems to be a far better player if we are purely comparing LW.
 
Be surprised to see him not in a red shirt in the summer at the latest.
 
B20 said:
Be surprised to see him not in a red shirt in the summer at the latest.
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Ah, I see what you’ve done there.

He’s been linked to Liverpool, Arsenal and United.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
I know transfer fees have gone crazy, but is he really worth £100m?

Someone in another thread called him a 'generational talent', which I find absolutely absurd.

Martial for example seems to be a far better player if we are purely comparing LW.
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Well Lemar isn't a left winger.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
I know transfer fees have gone crazy, but is he really worth £100m?

Someone in another thread called him a 'generational talent', which I find absolutely absurd.

Martial for example seems to be a far better player if we are purely comparing LW.
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Lemar is a natural 10. A Mourinho kinda 10. I agree with the other poster though. Lemar is a once in a generation type talent. He has a very deep tactical understanding of the game
 
IrishRedDevil said:
I know transfer fees have gone crazy, but is he really worth £100m?

Someone in another thread called him a 'generational talent', which I find absolutely absurd.

Martial for example seems to be a far better player if we are purely comparing LW.
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Martial is a better dribbler, but to be honest I find myself wondering what kind of player he is supposed to be. He hasn't got the vision or passing ability to be a playmaker. He doesn't play like a winger. He is sort of a striker, but not really.

If he starts raking in the goals, maybe. But barring that, I am not sure what's his gig outside of taking people on. For such a talented player, he's not very wellrounded.

With Lemar, you know the player you're getting at least.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
I know transfer fees have gone crazy, but is he really worth £100m?

Someone in another thread called him a 'generational talent', which I find absolutely absurd.

Martial for example seems to be a far better player if we are purely comparing LW.
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Yes, Martial is a better player but Martial is an outrageous talent for his age, probably only outdone by Mbappe in world football's under 21 group. Lemar is 22 and his footballing intelligence is ridiculous for someone of his age. In many ways, Lemar and Martial are opposites. Lemar is all pass, run and move. He has the potential to be a world class player. And while I don't agree with anything like a 90m price tag at the moment, he can reach that level. He's got to be worth 40-50 in this market.
 
Good player. Won't be shaking in my boots if he joins a rival though.
 
B20 said:
Martial is a better dribbler, but to be honest I find myself wondering what kind of player he is supposed to be. He hasn't got the vision or passing ability to be a playmaker. He doesn't play like a winger. He is sort of a striker, but not really.

If he starts raking in the goals, maybe. But barring that, I am not sure what's his gig outside of taking people on. For such a talented player, he's not very wellrounded.

With Lemar, you know the player you're getting at least.
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What kind of player is that?
 
Lash said:
serious question now though, do you think he could do the defensive part in the 3? as he'd be essentially replacing Herrera if we play 4-3-3.
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Well ultimately, Matic will do the ‘defensive’ part. I think Lemar can do more of the ‘controlling’ part. The only issue is that he will drift around. He’s basically a bit like David Silva, so if you would be comfortable having Silva in your midfield 3, then Lemar would work just fine.

If he came here, likely JM will swap him for big away games, but no reason why he couldn’t play in most. He creates a massive amount of chances.
 
Rob said:
What kind of player is that?
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A creative playmaker who can beat a man.

martial needs a manager who has a vision for him as a player.
 
B20 said:
Martial is a better dribbler, but to be honest I find myself wondering what kind of player he is supposed to be. He hasn't got the vision or passing ability to be a playmaker. He doesn't play like a winger. He is sort of a striker, but not really.

If he starts raking in the goals, maybe. But barring that, I am not sure what's his gig outside of taking people on. For such a talented player, he's not very wellrounded.

With Lemar, you know the player you're getting at least.
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Martial is basically a wide striker with great dribbling ability meaning he can play LW to a high level. The passing and vision side of things is for other players on the pitch, but Martial has very good link up play.
7 goals and 4 assists from 900 minutes of football isn't just 'taking people on' though.

Anyway this is the Lemar thread so I should not really have mentioned Martial.
 
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B20 said:
A creative playmaker who can beat a man.

martial needs a manager who has a vision for him as a player.
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:lol: "Creative playmaker who can beat a man". Thats like you asking me about Lukaku and me saying I know he scores goals. Spoken like a guy who has no clue what either player does. I bet you didnt know what/where Lemar played before he was linked to you guys in the final week of the window and now it looks like you are a self proclaimed expert on all things Lemar. If you honestly think Martial cant beat his man, I suggest you start watching him more often.
 
izec said:
What position will he play at Liverpool?
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I expect like for like for coutinho.

So either the most advanced of a midfield three or on the left wing, depending on the game and who else is available.
 
RDCR07 said:
Spoken like a guy who has no clue what either player does. I bet you didnt know what/where Lemar played before he was linked to you guys in the final week of the window and now it looks like you are a self proclaimed expert on all things Lemar. If you honestly think Martial cant beat his man, I suggest you start watching him more often.
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where did I anywhere say Martial can't beat his man?
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Lemar is a natural 10. A Mourinho kinda 10. I agree with the other poster though. Lemar is a once in a generation type talent. He has a very deep tactical understanding of the game
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Bloody hell. Hope you're wrong on this given Liverpool are most heavily linked with him. Keita, Salah, Lemar, Mane and Firmino over a few seasons is scary.
 
B20 said:
where did I anywhere say Martial can't beat his man?
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Well werent you saying that indirectly? You are comparing Martial and Lemar and saying you know what you get with Lemar and that is he can beat his man. That leaves you that the opinion that Martial cant or is not as good as Lemar.
 
RDCR07 said:
Well werent you saying that indirectly? You are comparing Martial and Lemar and saying you know what you get with Lemar and that is he can beat his man. That leaves you that the opinion that Martial cant or is not as good as Lemar.
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I wasn't comparing martial in that post at all. In the post where I did compare them, I opened by saying martial is a better dribbler.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Bloody hell. Hope you're wrong on this given Liverpool are most heavily linked with him. Keita, Salah, Lemar, Mane and Firmino over a few seasons is scary.
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Mentioning Salah twice wont make them stronger:D. Also their defense is still susceptible even with the addition of VVD.

PS. Dang it you edited your post!
 
For what its worth, I have seen nothing in the press regarding Lemar close to a move or even Lemar at all, in France.
 
I hope Monaco hold out for more money. I mean its not like they need to sell. Closer to 110m and that would mean close to 200m for around 2 players.
 
Rozay said:
Well ultimately, Matic will do the ‘defensive’ part. I think Lemar can do more of the ‘controlling’ part. The only issue is that he will drift around. He’s basically a bit like David Silva, so if you would be comfortable having Silva in your midfield 3, then Lemar would work just fine.

If he came here, likely JM will swap him for big away games, but no reason why he couldn’t play in most. He creates a massive amount of chances.
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I meant more the positional sense and holding the shape, rather than the breaking up the play. I would worry we would have the issues highlighted with Pogba in that role and giving up space for even the poorer team to run into, but if you put it like the above, then I'm all aboard.
 
RDCR07 said:
Mentioning Salah twice wont make them stronger:D. Also their defense is still susceptible even with the addition of VVD.

PS. Dang it you edited your post!
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That is true. But if they keep getting stronger they he have a bigger chance to winning titles in the future. I know the idea of them being inherently flawed defensively is nice and I'd like to believe that as well, but you can win the league without being rock solid at the back. Liverpool nearly won the league with a rope defence in 13-14.

Yeah I'll stop panicking soon.
 
B20 said:
A creative playmaker who can beat a man.

martial needs a manager who has a vision for him as a player.
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I'll take your word for it, as I've never seen him play. In any case, we need to replace Coutinho when he leaves, and by your description Lemar sounds like a good candidate.
 
He should fit Coutinho's role perfectly. Seems like he prefers to play on the left hand side in the half space, he can pick a pass, has great close control and can drive through open space, excellent crosser and can score from outside the box, links up well with attacking FB's and he's always looking to pass and move. Plus he's pretty versatile and a great set-piece taker. Oh, and he's used to playing in a counter-attacking team and has excelled in doing so.

Not as good as Coutinho in some of those areas and not overall as a player, but I don't see why he can't reach that level. It's not ideal to be losing Coutinho and replacing him with somebody arguably not as good yet, but seeing as it's inevitable, Lemar is probably the best player available most suitable for that role. If they can get Lemar and a good GK like Alisson in with the Coutinho money, they'll have made the best of a bad situation.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
That is true. But if they keep getting stronger they he have a bigger chance to winning titles in the future. I know the idea of them being inherently flawed defensively is nice and I'd like to believe that as well, but you can win the league without being rock solid at the back. Liverpool nearly won the league with a rope defence in 13-14.

Yeah I'll stop panicking soon.
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Teams are much stronger now. Spurs, us, Chelsea and City are stronger. They have a better chance of winning cups first before making a move for the Premier League by which time other teams will be also getting stronger.
 
If were gonna sign lemar or fabinho we need to get it done before citeh sign anymore monaco players. It looks like were gonna miss out on sandro to chelski, we dither too much in the market, we need to get in there early doors.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Bloody hell. Hope you're wrong on this given Liverpool are most heavily linked with him. Keita, Salah, Lemar, Mane and Firmino over a few seasons is scary.
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liverpool are already scary to be fair. Its only gonna get more scary from here even of they dont get lemar. Klopp seems to know where to find attacking gems and now he has Van Dijk and Naby Keita
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
liverpool are already scary to be fair. Its only gonna get more scary from here even of they dont get lemar. Klopp seems to know where to find attacking gems and now he has Van Dijk and Naby Keita
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It pains me to say it but klippetys team could be the team to watch next season, god forbid.
 
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