Monaco are saying they won't sell anyone after Bakayoko. While I don't believe it to be 100% true it will certainly be much harder to get a player away from them.
Thomas Lemar
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Considering how much other people are being valued at, Monaco should be demanding at least 50/60m for him surely?
That's like saying you don't think Rivelino was that good because he's nowehere near Pélé or Tostao. Sure, he might not be a future ballon d'Or winner but he's an essential part of a team that are demonstrably better than us currently. He got the most assists in the league last season, was in the top 5 for chances created and he managed to be that creative force while providing a tremendous amount of balance in midfield. Can't see why anyone is dismissing him so easily.
That was my first thought after I saw how much Arsenal is apparently bidding. Then again, looking at Silva/Bakayoko Monaco are the only ones who don't put crazy prices on their players.
Ironically, they have most reasons to do that, when you look at the talent.
You are joking or you haven't seen him much. He's much better than either Depay or Zaha
We'll see. I see him as a good bench player for an elite team, same as Depay or Zaha.
Dont think they will sell him for a sensible fee. Unless someone comes up with 60 or 70m that could bring them to think twice about it, they will keep him for sure. Bakayoko will be sold and i think one of Mendy/Fabinho too.
Also worth noting that he had that fine season while playing on the left and being left-footed, which basically no major winger does these days (off the top of my head, among the best 5 or 6 teams in Europe and the Prem it was basically only Atletico when they played Koke on the right and Isco at Real when he took over for Bale, and I guess Pedro was on the right at Chelsea) because Bernardo Silva was on the right and is the type of player who really needs to come infield to make an impact. Lemar likes to dribble and come infield, so it wouldn´t shock me if he could be even more productive playing on the right full time.
He was closer to the strong link than anything else.
Strange you say that considering Depay was a garbage bench player for us. And Zaha did nothing at United.
So if he is comparable to either of those 2 then I agree we definitely shouldnt sign.
This guy is going to be incredible in 2-3 years.
We should offer them €40M + Januzaj.
I don't think Monaco would be interest in Januzaj. 60m would be more interesting.
So 39M then
Lemar is a good player who will never be as aye-catching as a Dembele or fully functioning Martial. He is far less inclined to dribble and take risks, always passing and moving instead with crisp, short passes and quality crosses.
There are plenty of players with more flair who will be lauded for their inspired games or moments within games, for whom the spectacular will occasionally not come off and/ or they will be prone to not doing the simple things. Whereas Lemar provides a more reliable and consistent performance throughout a game, or over the course of a season, but has a more subtle effect on a teams attacking play.
He is a very intelligent player who takes up great positions in the space infield between a team's midfield and defence. He is very disciplined and clever in how he creates space for himself, sticking to the inside left channel and keeping the team shape balanced. Mata, for comparison, can't seem to contain himself to finding space in that pocket between full back and centre midfielder, often drifting far too far from his nominal right wing starting position and leaving Valencia isolated out wide.
Lemar is constantly looking to play off of his full back and striker, and would be a great asset to any side with a left back who joins the attack and a forward who runs the channels. So I don't think he would have had much of an impact on United last season with Darmian behind him and Zlatan in front.
There are plenty of players with more flair who will be lauded for their inspired games or moments within games, for whom the spectacular will occasionally not come off and/ or they will be prone to not doing the simple things. Whereas Lemar provides a more reliable and consistent performance throughout a game, or over the course of a season, but has a more subtle effect on a teams attacking play.
He is a very intelligent player who takes up great positions in the space infield between a team's midfield and defence. He is very disciplined and clever in how he creates space for himself, sticking to the inside left channel and keeping the team shape balanced. Mata, for comparison, can't seem to contain himself to finding space in that pocket between full back and centre midfielder, often drifting far too far from his nominal right wing starting position and leaving Valencia isolated out wide.
Lemar is constantly looking to play off of his full back and striker, and would be a great asset to any side with a left back who joins the attack and a forward who runs the channels. So I don't think he would have had much of an impact on United last season with Darmian behind him and Zlatan in front.
All three of them will make a decent career for themselves. In case of Depay and Zaha they were always fighting a losing battle with the managers we had at the time we bought them. Zaha for instance would clearly get plenty of games for us if he was still with us last season. Depay was already proving to be productive in Ligue 1 even though he's only been there half the season.
Zaha was brought by Fergie and if memory serves me right, Fergie would always give wingers a chance to prove. Hell he even gave Bebe a few games. If the guy doesn't play for Fergie and then also not for Moyes when he was trying everyone during his tenure then he had issues. After seeing him at Crystal Palace again, I can safely say that he is a player for mid table club
As far as Depay is concerned, I can assure you that he was given enough chances by both Jose and lious to realize that he was a boy who likes to be a star rather than a team player. Plus I could hardly remember where he would give us 8 out of 10. French league suits him perfectly as he will keep making a name for himself there. Maybe at some point in his career he actually becomes a team player and then we can consider buying him
Zaha was bought by Fergie but only moved to the club under Moyes. He never played under Fergie.
French league makes Depay look good like it makes Lemar look good, was what I was trying to say. It's also easier playing for a full gung ho attacking team like Monaco. It's an attacking player's dream team.
Zaha wasn't brought in under Fergie?
. Damn!!! I have started having Alzheimer's.And you are absolutely right as far as lemar and Depay comments are concerned
He's much better than anything we have on the wings or as a playmaker ( he's twice the player Mata is for example and he's only 21 ). He was a much more important player for Monaco than Bernardo last season too.
Lemar has a great engine, brilliant technique/vista, great set-pieces taker and he's one of the most clever player in the world.
Underrated player.
Lemar has a great engine, brilliant technique/vista, great set-pieces taker and he's one of the most clever player in the world.
Underrated player.
He'd be a great signing for us, pity we arent interested. He's a left midfielder rather than winger or forward which will make our midfield rather solid.
Better than majority of our players in his position bar pogba- no brainer that we should be in for him.
I honestly don't know what our scouts and mourinho are doing. Players like dembele, Lemar Fabinho would all be gettable and would improve us significantly.
Yet we are chasing impossible transfers like neymar, Ronaldo and dealing with Madrid which is always a long drawn out saga. We were always quick to sell beckham RVN and ronaldo to them but when it's the other way round they thrape us for every penny we have
I honestly don't know what our scouts and mourinho are doing. Players like dembele, Lemar Fabinho would all be gettable and would improve us significantly.
Yet we are chasing impossible transfers like neymar, Ronaldo and dealing with Madrid which is always a long drawn out saga. We were always quick to sell beckham RVN and ronaldo to them but when it's the other way round they thrape us for every penny we have
Smart thing from utd not to get involved in this saga, he is not for sale, arsenal are behaving like utd did in moyes season, he is an ungettable target which is why city, chelsea and bayern all of whom have had this player scouted more than once are not trying to get involved in this.
Pity since it seems that Monaco board is willing to sell their relatives this window.
Depay doesn't look particularly good in the french league.
Do you really believe we are trying to sign Ronaldo and Neymar? Seriously?
How many have Monaco sold so far? Just B. Silva?
Dirar and Germain too. But yeah, Silva is the only first choice who has been sold.
Probably watched one goal is all...
Agreeing.Are you agreeing or disagreeing?
It's funny because he has been good against terrible teams or teams in freefall and terrible against good and average teams. If Ghezzal wasn't in conflict with the club, Memphis wouldn't have seen the field.
Not surprised. Never rated Memphis.
Happy we managed to get rid.
Agreeing with you holmesAre you agreeing or disagreeing?
A real shame, this kid has good potential but he seems a bit thick
I think Lyon can do something with him, he is apparently very professional and eager to learn, so hopefully it will work for him.
And the comparison with Lemar is out of order, Lemar who is a #10 adapted his game to left midfielder and thrives in both, he is surprisingly intelligent for a player that wasn't in a big academy.
Same as here. I mean he tore that Midtjylland's fullback a new one, looking like a modern Garrincha
Lots of rumours today that he has agreed to join Liverpool.
Might be a bit offensive, but I’d love to see him in a 3 with Pogba and Matic.
Not the player Utd or Pool need.
Been shiite this season.