No way were they going to end this rivalry this early. I thought it was fantasically done to put a new twist into it. It will be many years before we see a blow off match between Rollins and Ambrose.
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No way were they going to end this rivalry this early. I thought it was fantasically done to put a new twist into it. It will be many years before we see a blow off match between Rollins and Ambrose.
Well, one match will not put an end to this rivalry. Rollins have been getting the wins with help all throughout, Kane/Orton before and now Bray. It should be Ambrose's turn to get even. Also Bray is a major player and not a supporting cast like Orton/Kane in this rivalry. I'm thinking it keeps getting distracted and diluted, first by Cena poking in and now Bray. And Ambrose alone will not be enough for Rollins, Bray and HHH/Kane.
I think Bray will just be a sidetrack to the main rivalry. I'm hoping today's RAW will have some explanations on why Bray would want to poke his nose in this. The old Wyatt Family/Shield as a cause would be abysmal imo.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Orton will have pivotal role here.
I think this could be a great thing depending on how they go forward. I think Rollins winning again could be a smart move, if once Rollins cashes in, its Ambrose to end it (and gets his first win over Rollins that way - rollins can brag Ambrose has never beaten him etc).
Sorta like Dreamer never beating Raven until he did.
If Orton ends up turning face, they need to make sure they keep his style and not turn him into generic face like they did last time. He needs to remain aggressive viper Orton. Also im still not sure why hes not angrier with Rollins after the curbstomp. The explanation he got at the PPV was weak, so hoping Orton hits Rollins with a RKO on Raw.
Overall I quite enjoyed the PPV. Theyve done a fantastic build for Rusev, hope they dont just throw his undefeated streak away to just anybody.
Was nice they gave Rollins/Ambrose the main event. The new "stooges" are a good addition.
Sorta like Dreamer never beating Raven until he did.
If Orton ends up turning face, they need to make sure they keep his style and not turn him into generic face like they did last time. He needs to remain aggressive viper Orton. Also im still not sure why hes not angrier with Rollins after the curbstomp. The explanation he got at the PPV was weak, so hoping Orton hits Rollins with a RKO on Raw.
Overall I quite enjoyed the PPV. Theyve done a fantastic build for Rusev, hope they dont just throw his undefeated streak away to just anybody.
Was nice they gave Rollins/Ambrose the main event. The new "stooges" are a good addition.
Last night's a good example of why WWE seem to underachieve so often with what they deliver.
You got a very good opening match between Ziggler and Cesaro. As a one off match it was all good but the feud itself had very little build, the belt itself means effectively nothing and both of the wrestlers have been booked as complete jokes for so long a lot of people don't really care about them. With better planning this could have been the start of a entertaining feud with some really good matches. I don't know where it all went wrong for Cesaro, he's again a loser in one of the best matches on the show. With Ziggler, everyone knows the guy's mouth is way to big.
You then got a match between the Bellas which has more TV time than the actual women's belt and which is regularly featured because WWE have a spin off reality tv show to promote. I really could not careless about this.
You then got the Usos against the Rhodes brothers. Decent match but these teams work matches against each other every week the same way the Usos did with the Wyatts. Hard to get to excited about it as there is no variety.
Then you got Cena vs Orton again. This would have been a decent match if they had not wrestled each other so many times before in very similar matches. Anyone really entertained by this now? Anyone want to see Brock vs Cena again this year? Well you are getting it whether you want it or not.
Then you got Sheamus vs the Miz. The most entertaining thing about this match is the guy outside the ring imitating one of the wrestlers in the ring.
Rusev vs Show. Very similar story to all of Rusev's matches. Rusev wins in a match which lasts under 10 minutes.
I missed the Divas title match.
Ambrose vs Rollins was a very good match and personally I am happy Ambrose and Wyatt are going to feud with each other as it's something fresh and will likely be very entertaining and Wyatt really needs it.
I'd say last night was a decent PPV. Same way as Night of Champions was a decent PPV. Really could have been a very good PPV if they did things slightly differently.
You got a very good opening match between Ziggler and Cesaro. As a one off match it was all good but the feud itself had very little build, the belt itself means effectively nothing and both of the wrestlers have been booked as complete jokes for so long a lot of people don't really care about them. With better planning this could have been the start of a entertaining feud with some really good matches. I don't know where it all went wrong for Cesaro, he's again a loser in one of the best matches on the show. With Ziggler, everyone knows the guy's mouth is way to big.
You then got a match between the Bellas which has more TV time than the actual women's belt and which is regularly featured because WWE have a spin off reality tv show to promote. I really could not careless about this.
You then got the Usos against the Rhodes brothers. Decent match but these teams work matches against each other every week the same way the Usos did with the Wyatts. Hard to get to excited about it as there is no variety.
Then you got Cena vs Orton again. This would have been a decent match if they had not wrestled each other so many times before in very similar matches. Anyone really entertained by this now? Anyone want to see Brock vs Cena again this year? Well you are getting it whether you want it or not.
Then you got Sheamus vs the Miz. The most entertaining thing about this match is the guy outside the ring imitating one of the wrestlers in the ring.
Rusev vs Show. Very similar story to all of Rusev's matches. Rusev wins in a match which lasts under 10 minutes.
I missed the Divas title match.
Ambrose vs Rollins was a very good match and personally I am happy Ambrose and Wyatt are going to feud with each other as it's something fresh and will likely be very entertaining and Wyatt really needs it.
I'd say last night was a decent PPV. Same way as Night of Champions was a decent PPV. Really could have been a very good PPV if they did things slightly differently.
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fecking bullshit. Cena goes straight back into the main event scene and Ambrose drops back down to the mid card to fued with Wyatt.
Can't see the problem with that. Ambrose vs Wyatt is likely to be very good and entertaining. Rollins vs Orton is probably going to be pretty good. Cena's going to be Cena. Personally I am just glad that there's something entertaining while Cena's goes back to another repetitive feud with Brock, who is probably the one guy on the roster he won't beat.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really looking forward to an Ambrose/Wyatt fued. I just think that its bullshit that the most over star in the company (Ambrose) is being pushed back down the pecking order so that super Cena can get the top spot again.
Tbh I think Rollins and ambrose are going to have this rivalry for their entire career so I'm not against having a little break for abit to see Bray and Ambrose feuding as long as we don't have to just watch Ambrose getting beaten on by the whole family every week, that was getting boring.
Personally I don't quite think Ambrose is ready to regularly be the main event. Actually pleasantly surprised he main evented the show last night over Orton/Cena. He's not quite as over as Bryan was and that's what it takes to dislodge Cena(who I find boring as hell as well). Ambrose and Wyatt could be as good as Rollins/Ambrose was. Maybe better as Wyatt can talk as well.
Looks like Cena is going to end up with Rusev in the long-term and might slowly be phased out when Reigns and Bryan get back.
For good reason. The AJ/Paige feud has been one of the worst things in WWE this year, it's basically consisted of both of them skipping around the ring and giving each other mean stares since Wrestlemania.
The Bella's feud hasn't been great either but at least there's been some form of bite to it.
On to the main event scene, I'm dreading Cena vs Lesnar part III. I don't think the fans will get behind it either. We've seen this shit already.
Both feuds have been bad. The difference is that Paige and AJ are decent wrestlers. The only reason the Bella feud gets more tv time is because of the reality show.
I can live with Cena vs Brock again as I can't see Cena winning, although I really don't know why Vince thinks Cena vs Orton or Lesnar is what the public wants in 2014.
Orton was great on the beginning of Raw.
Have never understood why he gets the hate he does, is one of my fave. wrestlers. Wish they will push him a bit stronger though, has been playing the weak champ/coward heel for way too long imo.
They'd be fools not to push him after the 'RKO outta nowhere' shit that's overtaken the internet in the last few weeks. He's a great angry/vengeful character, as face or heel.
I thought the same but then they had him lose to cena last night so am not sure anymore. Lesnar, Orton would have been awesome.
Think he is just over used unfortunately, the lack of major talent at the time him and Cena were taking over has made him a little stale.
I agree but I think they see Lesnar/Cena as a bigger draw for the Rumble, even if the fans are bored of it. I think his face turn and push will start now though, he's got more freedom working programs that aren't against Cena as they always contain the same shit pretty much.
Rollins and Orton will probably be at each other now, will be great for them both.
With Rollins' style there'll be plenty of opportunities for an RKO outta nowhere.
I watched Raw last night for the first time in a few weeks. Struggle to believe WWE are still pushing Cena as hard as they did last night as I thought Ambrose/Rollins main eventing was a sign they would be sharing the load a bit more even without Reigns who they are obviously high on. He was everywhere, he's the focus for this Survivor Series main event match and he is going to face Lesnar when he next shows up for their third match in a row. WWE have the option of paying for Lesnar to do more dates which would have to be preferable over Cena dominating the show. They are really stretching and overexposing Cena, which means if you don't find him entertaining, the show's a chore.
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The Bray card was horribly pushed. Could they not think of a better reason than "I see myself in you", wtf? 
Even really sad things like Rolling paying off Bray to interfere would have been better than this crap.
Rollins vs Orton, Ambrose vs Bray...which leaves Cena to a no-presence Lesnar. The only one I can think of to tag Cena is Rusev. He has run out of big men to conquer and leaves Hero Cena to stop the Bad Russian. It will be a big boost to Rusev's career and I want to see him move away from the 'US/Russia' story.
Not so straight. I don't think they will let Cena drop off on a losing note. It has all probability of being a DQ again.
Even really sad things like Rolling paying off Bray to interfere would have been better than this crap. Rollins vs Orton, Ambrose vs Bray...which leaves Cena to a no-presence Lesnar. The only one I can think of to tag Cena is Rusev. He has run out of big men to conquer and leaves Hero Cena to stop the Bad Russian. It will be a big boost to Rusev's career and I want to see him move away from the 'US/Russia' story.
Not so straight. I don't think they will let Cena drop off on a losing note. It has all probability of being a DQ again.
The Bray card was horribly pushed. Could they not think of a better reason than "I see myself in you", wtf?
Rollins vs Orton, Ambrose vs Bray...which leaves Cena to a no-presence Lesnar. The only one I can think of to tag Cena is Rusev. He has run out of big men to conquer and leaves Hero Cena to stop the Bad Russian. It will be a big boost to Rusev's career and I want to see him move away from the 'US/Russia' story.
Not so straight. I don't think they will let Cena drop off on a losing note. It has all probability of being a DQ again.
I reckon he'll go after the US title next.
Ryback is stopping Rusev. Fact. THE BIG GUY!!!
I hope he does, wins it and calls it the "Russian title".
If Angle isn't coming back, then I agree with Ryback stopping Rusev. Henry and Big Show are out of the equation now (thank God...) so there's a space to fill for Rusev.
I thought his only purpose was to get triple bombed by The Shield. After their breakup, he vanished too.
Cena is that fecking annoying he turns the authority into the good guys.
I also think Rollins is the best thing in WWE right now, shades of HBK. Carried cena last night.
The Big Guy is back. Time to FEED HIM MORE.I thought his only purpose was to get triple bombed by The Shield. After their breakup, he vanished too.
Stop it.
Anyway, I really enjoyed Raw. Nice to see Ziggler with Cena tbh. As long as hes not eliminated first, its a good sign.
Also yes, Ryback being back as the "Feed me more" guy is great. Hes better as a face, getting the crowd to chant that. They had something good with him before they started jobbing him on every PPV since his first lost to Punk and then that stupid heel turn and the Rybaxel flop team.
Rusev should win the US title from Sheamus at SS, rename it the Russoan title, hold it undefeated until WM then lose it to Ryback.
Be warned, the most disturbing gif in WWE history...
Also a massive
at anyone complaining about Ambrose moving onto Bray Wyatt. What would you rather, have him decimated at the Rumble by Brock?Anyway, network numbers tomorrow and releases sure to follow.
I'd sure hate to be a guy who's so low on the radar that they've lose 4 times this week, including 2-0 loss to Dolph Ziggler of all people.
If you have so much as a passing interest in wrestling then you have to watch NXT this week.
You have been warned.
You have been warned.
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No excuses either, network launches in UK and Ireland for FREE at 8pm tomorrow.
No wonder. They're so far up their own arses if they think they sell that product in its current state.
It's currently at an all time low, completely uninteresting, barely any entertaining characters, deovid of any depth or storylines, targetting a much younger audience and more concerned with its reputation among charities.
It's basically pay to re-live the Attitude Era. Are all their PPV's on the WWE network or will you still need to pay for it on Box Office? Once upon a time Wrestlemania and Summerslam were free, had to pay for Armageddon and Royal Rumble, now you pretty much have to pay for all of them (and there seems to be alot more).
It's currently at an all time low, completely uninteresting, barely any entertaining characters, deovid of any depth or storylines, targetting a much younger audience and more concerned with its reputation among charities.
It's basically pay to re-live the Attitude Era. Are all their PPV's on the WWE network or will you still need to pay for it on Box Office? Once upon a time Wrestlemania and Summerslam were free, had to pay for Armageddon and Royal Rumble, now you pretty much have to pay for all of them (and there seems to be alot more).
All the PPV's
Had a look through results and saw nothing that looked interesting?
Is there any truth to the rumours vince is looking to sell up?
Then you must have been looking at last weeks instead. This weeks is going to be a show that will be remembered for some time.
Absolutely none. Life without running the company would be Vince's idea of hell.