I must say, I've got a very good feeling about this one.
Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich
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feckin hell Cunto, stop being such a miserable cnut.
Really?
I mean think about City. They are currently undergoing a Spanish revolution......of sorts. They have a strong Barca contingent behind the scenes, they already have a few Spanish players there and they are bringing in Pelligrini.
And then there is the money
I am talking about while Sir Alex was still here not now players where picking these teams before us and the only thing they can offer that we cannot is more money. There is nothing wrong with working for money people do it in everyday life footballer's are held to a higher standard because they represent people and a place but they have family to feed also and it is a short career in comparison to the normal working man. I don't see anything wrong in suggesting on the flip side they are mercenaries. City have a new manager, so would Chelsea maybe PSG, Monaco perhaps all of these teams using the manager is not a good excuse because teams change managers all the time.
But I do understand your final point hence why I said City is an attractive proposition. They are run by people he knows, they seem to be having one of Spain's best manager's coming in, there is a Latin trend at the club all reasons why he may go there but that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that getting payed 120,00 a week is more attractive than getting paid 80,000.
If it's about the football, we are a better destination. Cunto keeps saying 'he could dislodge Gareth Barry'. True. He could also easily dislodge Tom Cleverley, who actually plays the same role in midfield as Thiago, unlike Barry (who is closer to being a really, really shit Alonso).
City, as they currently play, just don't have a 'Thiago-esque' role. They have two very deep CMs, and a line of three advanced AMs behind the striker. Thiago is too attacking to be one of the CMs, but would have to seriously limit his game to play as far up the pitch as Tevez, Silva or Nasri do now.
On the other hand, we play with a box-to-box Cleverley/Anderson type between our deep midfielder, Carrick, and our #10, Kagawa/Rooney. That Cleverley/Anderson role is exactly what Thiago is best at doing.
Of course, City are likely to play differently under Pellegrini, and we may play differently under Moyes (although personally I think he'll keep roughly that system in the centre, and his changes will be about the type of 'winger' we play). But based on what we currently know about the two sides' footballing systems, we would suit Thiago more, and have a much-publicised hole in midfield just waiting for him to fill it.
Worryingly, I think he'd also suit Chelsea. Although like City they play that clearly defined AM trio - two nominally wide and one centrel - their CMs are less strictly deep. With a hard-working defensive partner like Ramires, Thiago would make an excellent Lampard replacement. The only problem for them is that Lampard is still playing quite well. So whilst they have the right role for Thiago, it's currently filled. Ours is basically there for the taking.
City, as they currently play, just don't have a 'Thiago-esque' role. They have two very deep CMs, and a line of three advanced AMs behind the striker. Thiago is too attacking to be one of the CMs, but would have to seriously limit his game to play as far up the pitch as Tevez, Silva or Nasri do now.
On the other hand, we play with a box-to-box Cleverley/Anderson type between our deep midfielder, Carrick, and our #10, Kagawa/Rooney. That Cleverley/Anderson role is exactly what Thiago is best at doing.
Of course, City are likely to play differently under Pellegrini, and we may play differently under Moyes (although personally I think he'll keep roughly that system in the centre, and his changes will be about the type of 'winger' we play). But based on what we currently know about the two sides' footballing systems, we would suit Thiago more, and have a much-publicised hole in midfield just waiting for him to fill it.
Worryingly, I think he'd also suit Chelsea. Although like City they play that clearly defined AM trio - two nominally wide and one centrel - their CMs are less strictly deep. With a hard-working defensive partner like Ramires, Thiago would make an excellent Lampard replacement. The only problem for them is that Lampard is still playing quite well. So whilst they have the right role for Thiago, it's currently filled. Ours is basically there for the taking.
He's getting all of us hard,
De Gea is his long lost pal.
So sign him up Moyesy,
and Moyesy when you sign him
you can call, him, Al.... cantara!
De Gea is his long lost pal.
So sign him up Moyesy,
and Moyesy when you sign him
you can call, him, Al.... cantara!
Twitter reckons City, Milan and us have triggered his release clause. So how likely is he to pick us?
Uggh, Milan. I'd say they would have the edge if he were choosing
Hard to say. We've been interested in him for years so I'm hoping that we've been an option he's been considering for a while. He'd also be a pretty much guaranteed starter here, which should appeal to him considering his current situation. On top of that I'd be hoping that his advisers have enough sense to steer him here.
But dont Brazilians love Italy? He is half Brazilian at least. His father would know. Even at City I reckon he MIGHT/COULD start possibly if they get rid of a couple of players, especially since it looks likely that they might not be getting Isco.
Lazy post. Who on twitter?
That's not what he's saying.
I agree with the general thrust of his point - generally, United tend to get in early and secure a deal before giving anyone else a sniff. If Thiago goes into this tournament, and there's no offer on the table from United, then I doubt we're interested. In these relatively frugal times, I doubt we'd wait until after an international tournament before getting an offer in.
We play the same system, sort of. Just a different version of that. But yeah I guess he will slot in well next to Toure in CM just like how he would with Carrick here. So its up to him. Does he want more money but not a prestigious club or less money but one of the biggest clubs in the world.
How much would Milan be able to offer in terms of money? For some reason I'm always more nervous when proper clubs are competing with us for a signing, despite the amount of players that move for money.
I guess we won't know know he's more likely to pick until he picks. It could be anything that sways him. Milan is certainly a more desirable place to live than Manchester. He's bezzy mates with Big Dave. Pellegrini speaks Spanish and Moyes (I assume) does not. We are the Champions. City can pay him silly money. Anderson is the most fun guy ever. Could be anything...
Last year, ridiculous amounts of money was enough to sway Moura and Hazard. It's certainly a more common factor to sway a player than recent history of success. Hopefully his Dad thinks that City are a flash in the pan, and knows we've been fighting for success for over 20 years.
Last year, ridiculous amounts of money was enough to sway Moura and Hazard. It's certainly a more common factor to sway a player than recent history of success. Hopefully his Dad thinks that City are a flash in the pan, and knows we've been fighting for success for over 20 years.
They're nowhere near the powerhouse they were a few years ago. Their team isn't exactly flooded with talent, they can't compete with Juve and their ambition was shown when they sold their 2 best players at the same time. The location and culture would be the main draws for Thiago to go there over us.
Plus the fact that he's half Italian... born there.
How many halves is he? Half Spanish, half Brazilian, half Italian? Anything else I've missed?
He's 100% Brasilian, blood wise. Born in Italy but a naturalized Spanish citizen
what is he now? "half" Italian, "half" Brazilian and "half" Spanish? Jeez, he's not manbearpig.
If he joins us, I hope he develops a Rene-style Euromanc accent too.
I sort of disagree. I agree they cant compete with Juventus yet. But in my opinion they are rebuilding. Questioning their ambition for selling their best players? Didnt we sell a certain Ronaldo when he hadnt even reached his peak years? I think they needed that money plus didnt it turn out to be the right decision to sell Kaka at that point? I mean after the Ancelotti years, their average age was what? Somewhere in the 30's? But at least now they have players like Balotelli, Sharaawy, Boateng, M'Baye, Abate etc. They do have a few central midfielders - Montolivo (28), Muntari (28), Nocerino (28), Bakaye (28), De Jong (28) and Ambrosini (36). If they were to sell a couple of these players, they could reinvest that money in Thiago. They are also in debt IIRC. They cant spend too much, so they might not want to pass up the opportunity to get a young talent like Thiago for this cheap.
Milan is a shit hole
Apologies... but it does mean that he has much more of a tie to Italy than he does to England.
I always think of it as the Sheffield of Italy... nasty grey and miserable
I meant Ibra and Thiago Silva. While they got good money for them, they didn't exactly reinvest it did they?
Why would any top level talent want to join Milan over a top premier league team right now? The weather is surely the only reason.
But they still have debts to take care off. They cant splash every penny they get on players. They are doing their best to rebuild. Its take time. And Ibra? He wants to move clubs every summer. He is never satisfied no matter where he goes.
How does the tax thingy work in Italy? Im guessing they get charged less than they do in England?
I doubt even with the tax difference he would get more over there, Milan aren't the money bags they once were.
Given how Iniesta and Xavi talk about Scholes, it's not too outrageous to suggest he might be a draw for Thiago as well. He's supposed to be coaching now...
Bottom line.. If Thiago has the chance to join us but doesn't want to, then he is not worth having. RvP proved last year that players should want to play here ahead of any other club.
If there's competition from BOTH City and Milan then I don't have much hope for this one to be fair. I hope we do make a move though.
I feel like we'd be favourites out of the three teams. Italian league is pretty weak right now, and Milan isn't that good either. Thiago would have seen how easily Barca took them apart at the Camp Nou. Between us and City there's not much in it, but I think he'd choose us. I think if he does leave, that he'll come to us but I also have a nagging feeling that he'll end up staying at Barca.
If Jack Charlton was still in charge of the national team, we'd end the confusion by claiming him for Ireland.
Andy Mitten said that Thiago doesn't want to move to England and that Madrid is the most likely destination, according to what Barca people told him at the weekend. Also said that our scouts said Isco is too slow and doesn't make enough of a difference.
Muppet wet dream of a combination. The next Ronaldinho, Pirlo and Iniesta all rolled into one.
Sheffield - the fashion-capital of the UK ?
Is grey in fashion?
Ffs, has this still not happened?
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