Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich

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I hear Thiago has been cropped out of Mazinho's restaurant which he has sold to Manchester United for £17.5 million.
 
We're actually buying the restaurant?


My Marca sauce says so.

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Folk were pissed off alright - pissed off at Pogba!

Pogba was 18 when he left - he'd barely kicked a ball for us. Was offered a decent contract but turned it down. Juve came in & offered him more. We dont offer massive contracts to kids who havent even kicked a friggin ball for the 1st team - the same as most clubs do aswell.

Isnt that the problem with young footballers now - bunch of spoiled brats thinkin they've made it before they've even played a handful of games for their club? Look at Cleverely & Welbeck goin on loan for about 2-3 seasons each & then gettin rewarded when they came back. If reports are true - Pogba wanted the same money they were rewarded with when they returned - Pogba had only played 3 games of first-team football ffs!

United were absolutely spot on regarding his salary. Maybe Fergie could have played him more of course, but as Fergie always said - choose when to put a young player in the 1st team or risk shattering his confidence if he has a stinker - slowly but surely!

He wanted our young players to be grounded - not twats like Pogba & Morrison who wanted it all now before they've done anything to earn it. Welbeck & Cleverely are great lads & have worked their asses off & you never hear them complain about anything - thats the type of young player we try to develop at United, we dont need the Pogba-mentality at the club.

Do we not have rules for even the cars that young players drive also? No flash motors etc.. I love that!!

Agreed, though I specifically remember reading quite a few posters coming across more critical of the club, as opposed to Pogba.
 
The red curtain had been in front of the press since they entered the room. Voices whisper and mutter, echoing around the room with wonder. Today is the first day of David Moyes reign as Manchester United manager. It had been 15 minutes since the journalists were allowed in, when suddenly the lights dimmed.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, the moment you have all been waiting for..."

Silence.

Celebration by Kool and the Gang starts to play. The curtain lifts. There is a runway.

The music kicks up a notch... the announcers voice comes back on.

"Introducing, our first new signing. All the way from Barcelona. THIIIAAAAAAGOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Boom! Confetti bursts from the runway, Thiago comes out. He's on rollerskates wearing Man Utd speedos. He screeches to a stop at the end of the platform and does a wink and point. He skates back to the side of the runway and dances on the spot.

"Coming up next, signing number two.... KEVIN STROOOOOOOOOTMAAAAAN"

Confetti launches from the stage again, but Strootman is nowhere to be seen. The reporters gasp as they notice him ziplining from the rafters to the stage. Also sporting Man Utd speedos, he lands like a graceful swan, turns around and belts out a rendition of Oh Robin Van Persie.

The music is still blaring. "CEEEELEEBRAAATE GOOD TIMES, COME ON!". At this point the press are swaying side to side and clapping.

"Time for signing number three. We have no need for him but we signed him anyway. IT'S GARRRAAAAAYYYYYYYY!".

More confetti. Garay, donning United speedos, backflips down the stage. It's the greatest thing some of these reporters have ever seen. He flexes at the mic and then joins Thiago and Strootman in dancing at the side of the stage. They form a guard of honor.

"Time for the piece de resistance, people. Meet the man who made this all possible. DAVVVIIIIIDDDD.....MOOOOOYYYYEEEESSSS!!"

fecktonnes of confetti rain down. Moyes is in a bitching suit. He struts down the runway like a don, reaches the mic and signals for the music to stop. Suddenly everyone notices the human shaped object right by the mic that has been there the whole time. It is draped in a red sheet.

Silence. Moyes stares at the press. One journalist cannot take his death stare and runs out of the room crying.

Moyes grabs the sheet, and pulls.

It's Cristiano Ronaldo.

BOOM. the music kicks back on. Confetti is absolutely everywhere. Moyes rips off his entire suit in one move to reveal United speedos. He's also wearing rollerskates, nobody noticed this. Ronaldo, also in United speedos, starts dancing. Moyes does the best move everyone has ever seen. He is joined by all his new signings as they strut around the stage.

"CEEEELLLLEEBRRAAATTE GOOOOOD TIIIMES, COME ON!"

:lol:
 
All that excitement today was over nothing then. The Sport article quotes and tweets were stretching the truth of what was actually said in the article, whilst instagram forced Thiago to be cropped.

I am sure that images can be resized. Anyone with a computer can do that. So instagram didn't force Thiago to be cropped, it's bollocks.
 
Folk were pissed off alright - pissed off at Pogba!

Pogba was 18 when he left - he'd barely kicked a ball for us. Was offered a decent contract but turned it down. Juve came in & offered him more. We dont offer massive contracts to kids who havent even kicked a friggin ball for the 1st team - the same as most clubs do aswell.

Isnt that the problem with young footballers now - bunch of spoiled brats thinkin they've made it before they've even played a handful of games for their club? Look at Cleverely & Welbeck goin on loan for about 2-3 seasons each & then gettin rewarded when they came back. If reports are true - Pogba wanted the same money they were rewarded with when they returned - Pogba had only played 3 games of first-team football ffs!

United were absolutely spot on regarding his salary. Maybe Fergie could have played him more of course, but as Fergie always said - choose when to put a young player in the 1st team or risk shattering his confidence if he has a stinker - slowly but surely!

He wanted our young players to be grounded - not twats like Pogba & Morrison who wanted it all now before they've done anything to earn it. Welbeck & Cleverely are great lads & have worked their asses off & you never hear them complain about anything - thats the type of young player we try to develop at United, we dont need the Pogba-mentality at the club.

Do we not have rules for even the cars that young players drive also? No flash motors etc.. I love that!!


I don't get it. You're criticizing a player for choosing a better contract at another club? Your offer might very well have been the fairest in the world, if another club offers him a disproportionate deal - to the benefit of the player - how can you criticize him for accepting it?
 
All that excitement today was over nothing then. The Sport article quotes and tweets were stretching the truth of what was actually said in the article, whilst instagram forced Thiago to be cropped.


If Instagram forced the cropping, wouldn't it completely centre the photo? The cropping is conveniently cutting out the small area of empty space next to Puyol and a large area next to Pique which includes some empty space, and all of Thiago. It's definitely a manipulated photo, I reckon.
 
I don't get it. You're criticizing a player for choosing a better contract at another club? Your offer might very well have been the fairest in the world, if another club offers him a disproportionate deal - to the benefit of the player - how can you criticize him for accepting it?

I'm pretty certain we offered a similar package that juventus did.
 
I don't get it. You're criticizing a player for choosing a better contract at another club? Your offer might very well have been the fairest in the world, if another club offers him a disproportionate deal - to the benefit of the player - how can you criticize him for accepting it?


Do you just not get that clubs invest time and effort into their youth players? If you devote your resources to helping them develop and then they piss off for far less than their value with the club unable to do anything, it's very frustrating.

It isn't just all about the player and how much they can get, as quickly as they can get it.

I guess as a Porto fan you just see players as a commodity, and don't really get the United nurturing culture..
 
If Instagram forced the cropping, wouldn't it completely centre the photo? The cropping is conveniently cutting out the small area of empty space next to Puyol and a large area next to Pique which includes some empty space, and all of Thiago. It's definitely a manipulated photo, I reckon.

Yep, It would not cut 3/4 of the photo from the left and leave the right conveniently there. Could you imagine if that was Messi cropped out the photo?, they would re-do the whole thing.

Its clear as day to me that he is now off.
 
Do you just not get that clubs invest time and effort into their youth players? If you devote your resources to helping them develop and then they piss off for far less than their value with the club unable to do anything, it's very frustrating.

It isn't just all about the player and how much they can get, as quickly as they can get it.

I guess as a Porto fan you just see players as a commodity, and don't really get the United nurturing culture..

A bit like how it must have been for Le Havre.
 
Do you just not get that clubs invest time and effort into their youth players? If you devote your resources to helping them develop and then they piss off for far less than their value, it's very frustrating.

It isn't just all about the player and how much they can get, as quickly as they can get it.

I guess as a Porto fan you just see players as a commodity, and don't really get the United nurturing culture..


My clubs nurturing culture has been destroyed by the money culture in football and the advent of the all-powerful big leagues. Porto won the CL in 1987 with a team that was not only majorly composed of Portuguese players, but of whom the majority were born in Porto and its neighboring towns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_European_Cup_Final Had it been nowadays and none of those players would be here by 22. So we had to adopt and start preying on weaker south american clubs, much like bigger European clubs prey on it's less powerful continental counterparts. What has the insistence in a nurturing culture brought Sporting CP for example? 7th on the table last season, with their best prospect apparently refusing to renew a contract with them on the chance of fecking off cheaper to Chelsea or whatever.

Get out of your high horse.

Pogba was an instrumental player in Juventus midfield and earned his first caps for the French National team. You people are suggesting he should have exchanged this for being a back-up option at United. Point is, Juventus needed him more than United so they've offered him better guarantees than United. Not everyone wants to go the Cleverley route. I understand the later will be more appreciated by the fans, but he won't necessarily have a happier career than Pogba. That depends on what each of them wants. And a football player in the beginning of his career should have the freedom to make these decisions.

We also have a Cleverely here at Porto. His name is Castro. He's a hard working kid that wishes nothing but succeed here and the fans love him. Yet now that we sold Moutinho we didn't chose to bet on him for that spot, even though Moutinho himself guarantees that Castro might be ready. No, we paid 10m gor a Mexican player to play Moutinho's role. Another season of bench warming awaits Castro.
 
How does this work in practice?


Two heavies drive Thiago and his dad out to an abandoned airfield an hours drive from Barcelona. A small executive jet lands, we keep the engines running while Glazer gets out with a bag of plain used 50 Euro notes. Thiago is led blindfold to his seat in the plane, strapped in and sedated. We fly out. His dad is released once they've checked the money.
 
Do you just not get that clubs invest time and effort into their youth players? If you devote your resources to helping them develop and then they piss off for far less than their value with the club unable to do anything, it's very frustrating.

It isn't just all about the player and how much they can get, as quickly as they can get it.

I guess as a Porto fan you just see players as a commodity, and don't really get the United nurturing culture..

Do you know anything about Porto?

And I wasn't aware Pogba was a Manc.
 
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