This is the worse transfer window we've had.
Thiago Alcantara | Pool bound
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Is that a real question?
Yeah I guess so, whats the view on him leaving though? New challenge?
Giggs wasn't the manager though, it was fecking Moyesy. He should have done his own analysis (as if any was needed to sign Thiago) and signed the fecker, not gone around asking for opinions and second takes.
Easy blaming Giggs. Did Moyes also ask Giggs for advice before signing Fellaini?
He brought his own Everton staff with him and he and them are to blame for the decisions they took. But Moyes never took responsibility at United for anything anyway.
He brought his own Everton staff with him and he and them are to blame for the decisions they took. But Moyes never took responsibility at United for anything anyway.
I don’t know about Giggs being the culprit. If we could’ve had Thiago, Moyes would’ve mentioned him as one of his signings along with Kroos and how he was promised Ronaldo, Bale and Fabregas which he repeats every year.
I’m pretty sure Thiago just turned us down to reunite with Pep, but we always have to save face so we “cool our interest“ or some other story.
I’m pretty sure Thiago just turned us down to reunite with Pep, but we always have to save face so we “cool our interest“ or some other story.
Exactly. Just goes to show what a fecking spineless coward Moyesy was.
I'm not sure I totally believe the Giggsy opinion either. What would he mean by saying he's not a 'Utd player' - surely he would have been asked to elaborate? Either way the buck ends with Moyes to make the final decision and he dithered as usual.
I've always found this a tad hard to believe. What is a 'United player' compared to a Bayern/Barca/Madrid player? One wonders where Thiago fell short in this ''United player'' criteria.
The bloke was good enough to play for Bayern for a long time, would have been Xavi's heir apparent at Barcelona, yet he's not a ''United player''.
Yes, it's sad to see him go, and we'll have to see how strongly his absence will be felt in the upcoming season.
Yeah he wants a new challenge, a final big chapter in his career. Of course this season was the perfect closure of his time with Bayern, leaving on the highest of notes.
Maybe Giggs meant it literally: "boss, he's not a United player. You actually have to sign the deal with Bayern before deadline day, don't forget that!"
Giggs then recommend us James. Let that sink in.
I just wished we didn't get emotional and allowed Sir Alex to choose his successor. Choosing Moyes was disastrous
I just wished we didn't get emotional and allowed Sir Alex to choose his successor. Choosing Moyes was disastrous
Wonder where he'll play for them as it won't be as the 6. Fabinho, Henderson & Thiago?
Yeah he always came across as a top professional and a really nice guy too, his stats last year were insane and his CL final performance was immense.
Let's hope he emulates another nice guy Torres in being a complete disappointment.
Thiago is not a “United player” but Daniel feckin James is according to Ryan Giggs. I hope we don’t make another stupid sentimental decision by hiring him after Ole.
So what is the actual fee here? Seen about seven different quotes
What did you say, 30 years till we win the title or something like that, 50?
The scousers winning no.20 is going to hurt I have to admit 
Any idea on his wages per week?
Yeah, a recommendation. Just as Fergie only recommended Moyes.
It still falls on Moyes. How does Giggs who had never done any coaching have that mjch sway. If the idiot Moyes hadn't gotten rid of Fergies entire backroom staff he would have gotten proper insight.
Twenty or so. Thirteen years to go.
Nos vamos en Liverpool.
There are lots of managerial decisions in football that look stupid with hindsight but at the time made at least some sense (United hiring Mou, Bayern hiring Ancelotti, Barca hiring Valverde) but United hiring Moyes stands alone in my mind for incompetence because he was given absolute free reign to dismantle a title winning team. That would be fine if he was coming in from a top club and had won trophies because you give more flexibility to managers with the right track records but what's staggering is he came in and essentially thought the best thing to do would be just recreate his Everton setup on a larger scale...
Liverpool fans will say 20m euro including wages.
I think most of us had already made peace with this so it doesn't hurt as much.
We have done good business so far ourselves and I doubt we are finished.
We have done good business so far ourselves and I doubt we are finished.
This seems accurate to me. I think that's around €23m with €7m in add-ons? Not sure of the current currency exchange.
Add-ons include PL and/or CL titles, apparently.
Have we? VDB looks a neat player but occupies a position thats probably the smallest priority for us. Meanwhile we still have gaping weaknesses in RW, CB and to a lesser extent in LB/DM, and thats not even going into our woeful strength in depth.
Finally, we can lock this this thread soon.
That's one hell of a Liverpool team. Second only to Bayern and PSG.
I don’t think it is, but the key thing that is true is we’re paying 5 million initially which is what I suspect has finally allowed this deal to get done. It’s been rumoured for a while our finances have been holding this up and this allows for some creative leeway around that whilst still giving Bayern what they want.That cant be right
That's cheap for a player of his quality.
PSG aren't as good as Liverpool, they literally put their resources into Mbappe and Neymar.
Just a shame Eddie Howe is no longer around to balance your books.
Liverpool gonna absolutely piss the league again this year.
So Liverpool called Bayern's bluff and stuck to their guns on not paying 30m. Our name was probably chucked in to try and get them to pay up
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