If we could get him... 
Thiago Alcantara | Pool bound
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Neves isn't fit to lace Thiago boots to be honest
If we could get him...
Sounds like Falk is saying that obviously Liverpool are still in the box seat but as you saw with Werner things can change.
Ole maybe needs to get on the phone to Thiago like Lampard did with Werner and outline his project to him. Yes I appreciate the two are at different stages of their careers but no harm in giving it a try.
Thiago would be a great addition but we aren’t the finished article and I doubt he comes to us unless we offer insane wages. The scouse make more sense imo but I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
If it’s a choice between Neves and Thiago, obviously Thiago wins out but Neves doesn’t get the accolades he deserves because he plays in a conservative and defensive formation under Nuno. He’d be the ideal Matic replacement imo and is the type of player who’d show his class at a bigger club.
The same people slagging Neves were probably doing the same with Mane. Surprise, mid table clubs have good players as well.
If it’s a choice between Neves and Thiago, obviously Thiago wins out but Neves doesn’t get the accolades he deserves because he plays in a conservative and defensive formation under Nuno. He’d be the ideal Matic replacement imo and is the type of player who’d show his class at a bigger club.
The same people slagging Neves were probably doing the same with Mane. Surprise, mid table clubs have good players as well.
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Why would Bayern want to sell this guy? Have I missed something here? He's a better player than Goretzka & Tolisso. Are they buying someone new for the role? I get they have Kimmich but he sits deeper usually from what I've seen of them.
Of course having the title basically wrapped up by christmas affected their performances - but the dip in form after christmas must be worrying Klopp
Goaldifference of 38-21 in their last 18 matches compared to 47-14 in the 20 matches Before - is a huge difference
And as impressive as their season was - they only won 7 games by 3 goals or more...they drew 3 matches and won 15 games by 1 goal - which indicates they basically tipped every single tight game in their favour - that is unlikely to happen again.
He apparently wants a new challenge, is in his last contract year and doesn't want to sign a new one. So it's €30m right now or walk for free next summer.
Ah, OK. Thanks. Makes some sense I guess. Strange that such an influential player would walk from Bayern though. Perhaps he is posturing for a better deal.
The same people overating Neves were probably doing the same with Schneiderlin.
Expect that you will get him in the end,just a matter of sorting out the wage demands by the sounds of it
He's won the Bundesliga every year he's been there, and now he won the CL too, so not that weird that he's up for a new challenge. He has nothing left to prove there, and if he signs a new long-term deal with Bayern, he won't be able to go to another top European club at 33 or so under the same high wage demands, probably.
Now that I'm looking at it, apart from 11/12 he has won a league title EVERY YEAR since 2009. That's absurd.
Can this myth please die. They did not give klopp 5 years to get it right.
He has not finished outside top 4 since his first season when he took over from Rodgers mid way through the season. He made 1 europa final and 2 cl finals, winning 1 cl in his first 4 seasons, winning the league in his 5th.
If ole or any other utd manager achieved what klopp has in his first 4 seasons, no one is going to claim they were given time, they would have earned that time.
Not really followed him in any detail since we tried to sign him in 2013. Would he be able to play the deep lying playmaker role for us, or would we still need to play someone like Matic next to him?
If you’ve actually seen Neves play then you’d realize this comparison is absolutely wank. Neves is the type of player that would make you wonder why your club didn’t move for him when he makes the jump elsewhere to another big club.
Yeah I am confident he would be able to play that role but we will need to do a Chelsea with Werner to win this one
He's a quality player, if you get him he will change your dynamic a little. Do you want more of a possession based midfielder like him in your system?
One downside if we do sign him is that it probably means Wijnaldum is off to Barcelona. I’d be gutted to see him leave. He’s a player so well suites to what Klopp wants from his midfield.
I've seen Neves play. And so did several coaches and scouts. Given that he still plays for Wolves, means that either he is too expensive or he is not all that.
Was kind of what I was eluding to, surely signing someone like Thiago changes the way you play rather drastically?
Not that I disagree, but that didn't stop plenty of numpties from being unconvinced by him and wondering why our fanbase didn't put more pressure on him to deliver the goods.
So if you were given a choice of signing Thiago or keeping Wijnaldum then which one would you go for?
Would have loved Thiago in 2012, and would have loved Thiago a week ago.
Now with DvdB... not sure we need him. Don't get me wrong, great player, but how would we sort him and all our other box to box CMs?
As always I say get Sancho
Now with DvdB... not sure we need him. Don't get me wrong, great player, but how would we sort him and all our other box to box CMs?
As always I say get Sancho
You would think so. Thiago was occupying Fabinho’s position as a number 6 playing for Bayern recently. He won’t be able to play that role for us and would have to play a more advanced midfield role. I don’t think Thiago could play in our midfield like Henderson or Wijnaldum do so we’d have to change how we play.
A midfield three of Fabinho, Keita and Thiago would have to function very differently compared to how a midfield three of Fabinho, Henderson and Wijnaldum does.
Well I think Thiago is a much better player than Wijnaldum, they’re both at a similar age and we’re crying out for a midfielder like him as well.
I’d pick Thiago over Wijnaldum.
I'd go for Thiago.
Gini has been great and would be welcome to stay, but Thiago is better. And I do think our midfield dynamic is getting a bit stale when it comes to the interplay between midfield and attack. We need to freshen things up a bit.
Thought you would say that and quite honestly I don't blame you at all for making that choice
I don't think it is drastically different tbh.
Both are supremely press resistant technical midfielders who do good work defensively and are more about moving the ball forwards than goals or a final pass.
I imagine he will be asked to play a different role than he did at Bayern, higher up the pitch.
It won't help dictating games if his passes will go to the likes of James and Ighalo at best.
Wolves don’t need to sell. The fact that he’s still there is not a reflection of his quality.
He'd have to player at a much higher tempo for you as well surely. He knits the play together for Bayern, you need this far less in your current style.
I'd agree yes. I also think it's something you need to naturally evolve your style. There's a suggestion you've been found out a little lately (thank God), this type of signing would/could really help you out.
I'd love him at Utd but really can't see it happening.
Matic/Thiago, Pogba/Fred, Bruno/VDB how do you fit them in a 3 man midfield, Even we sell Fred we will have SMT on books.
We might have to play diamond with 4 of these atleast but not sure if we have the wing backs to support this system
From Carrick and aged Scholes to what a midfield we are turning into.
We had Herrera, Sniederlin and Aged Sweinstiger at one point but I think current midfield is the best in last 12 years even without Thiago and if he joins I leave that to imagination
We might have to play diamond with 4 of these atleast but not sure if we have the wing backs to support this system
From Carrick and aged Scholes to what a midfield we are turning into.
We had Herrera, Sniederlin and Aged Sweinstiger at one point but I think current midfield is the best in last 12 years even without Thiago and if he joins I leave that to imagination
Fergie had a better first 4 years than Klopp and was almost sacked.
I like Neves, he’s got quality on the ball. However my fear with him is that I don’t think he’s mobile enough. Maybe I haven’t watched him enough but that’s the impression I get
I will have him any day here even for few games, He is that brilliant
Just FYI, On average he played 20 games a season in last 7 years, Hope he wont struggle with the pace of premiere league.
Just FYI, On average he played 20 games a season in last 7 years, Hope he wont struggle with the pace of premiere league.
Where did i say that.. come on remove the chip off your shoulder.
The average age of your starting 11 from sept 19 was 27y 59d (source premier league), that is 28y 59d in 20/21 in two year 30 plus. How is that a dig, it's fact. Like i said, you've no money and within the next two years you're going to need money that you havent got.
It will be an interesting watch..
My worry with him is his fitness and obviously adapting to the Pl as you say. You never know. As talented as a player may be the league does take adjusting to at that age, and Thiago has despite recent great performances and him being regarded highly now, he has faced fitness/injury issues consistently over the last 6-7 years. It has not always gone swimmingly for him.
The baddie in Bond?
Sanchez 2.0 written all over this. This is his last chance for a massive salary, he wants a pay day before it’s too late.
There is a difference where we are currently but that doesn't translate to us having to pay more to get his services. Torres didn't go to Pool where they were absolutely shite because he was getting bucket loads more
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