Film There Will Be Blood - Is it the best movie ever made?

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The cinematography, the music, the performances, the set pieces. I think it's probably the best film ever made.
 
Depends on what you want from a movie really, that type of movie for me would never be the greatest. For me it's something like Terminator 2.
 
I can't stand the shouty overacting. When DDL had become convinced of his own self-importance. Shame as I liked him earlier in his career.

Yeah, I felt his performance was a bit hammy too, but I also think the director wanted that level of over the top craziness from him, so I wouldn’t pin it all on him as an actor. It’s not like he suddenly became a poor actor in that moment, but it just didn’t quite work for me

It’s just a good film in my eyes, but not one of the greatest. I’d put one or two of the same directors other films above it.
 
Who honestly criticises Day-Lewis for overacting does not deserve good movies. He’s brilliant. A brutal force that reigns supremely over the screen. Brilliant movie and a uniquely great performance.
 
Who honestly criticises Day-Lewis for overacting does not deserve good movies. He’s brilliant. A brutal force that reigns supremely over the screen. Brilliant movie and a uniquely great performance.

I can't wait to get to watch him act one last time in Anemone (directed by his son)
 
I like the scene where the tall, lanky demon man goes:

"I. Drink. Your. Milkshake."
*aggressive slurping noises*
"I DRINK IT UP"


And then the priest goes: "Don't bully me!"

That scene uploaded to YouTube, combined with the title of the film, made me think that it was a vampire film :lol:
 
Who honestly criticises Day-Lewis for overacting does not deserve good movies. He’s brilliant. A brutal force that reigns supremely over the screen. Brilliant movie and a uniquely great performance.
I agree. I also find it strange to criticise it as "hammy" considering he spends the first half hour not speaking, then through most of the film is relatively understated. He has some explosions, which are necessary for the progression of the story and his character.

It's a wonderful film and has aged well. Paul Dano is also great in it (as he usually is). I think it was released the same year as The assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford, which I prefer, but it's a great film.
 
I don't think we can make any definitive statement like that. It's nigh impossible to do so. Art is subjective and although we can agree that mass appreciation for one aspect of art over another does say something qualitatively about the piece, we need to remember that how everyone approaches art differs individually.

For eg. We're mostly english-speaking, and so we're drawing from those experiences, but there's going to be a lot of people who watched A Separation, the Iranian film, with the original performances in the original language and who understand Iranian, and conclude that this is the greatest film ever made.

Basically, we're limited as english speakers in determing what's the best movie ever made because we can't access a great deal of movies ever made and experience them in the original language and context they were created in..........if that makes sense.

TL;DR - Art is subjective, we're biased towards productions that favour out own languages, therefore we can't categorically state something is the greatest.
 
Good film but not as good as Alien.

I rewatched recently and was genuinely amazed how well it holds up still (apart from the 1970s computer screen interfaces).

Also made me realise that most films now just have far too much going on.
 
Yeah, I felt his performance was a bit hammy too, but I also think the director wanted that level of over the top craziness from him, so I wouldn’t pin it all on him as an actor. It’s not like he suddenly became a poor actor in that moment, but it just didn’t quite work for me

It’s just a good film in my eyes, but not one of the greatest. I’d put one or two of the same directors other films above it.

This. DDL is an incredible actor, but this wasn't his finest hour.
 
Those of you who disagree are all wrong, its a masterpiece.
Finally someone talking sense.
Accusing actors of overacting has become a lazy statement people throw around to sound smart.



„overacting“
The man embodies the greed so deeply engrained into American society and the American dream. And part of the American dream is excess. It consists of recklessness, egocentrism and violence. Of course he goes over the top at the end. Of course he becomes more and more violent and unhinged. That’s the whole fecking point of the movie. Plainview is supposed to become this uncontrollable, lonely and insane force of nature. He is supposed to command the whole screen. To be in charge of every scene. To dominate everyone around him. Because that’s what greed does to this society.
I don’t expect everyone to like the movie. But this overacting argument is really boring.
 
I agree. I also find it strange to criticise it as "hammy" considering he spends the first half hour not speaking, then through most of the film is relatively understated. He has some explosions, which are necessary for the progression of the story and his character.

It's a wonderful film and has aged well. Paul Dano is also great in it (as he usually is). I think it was released the same year as The assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford, which I prefer, but it's a great film.
This, Jesse James and No Country were all released in the same year. All 3 were incredible neo / revisionist Westerns in their own right. No Country and There Will Be Blood got the recognition at the Oscars, but I also have a big soft spot for Jesse James.