Television The Walking Dead

@Sylar with regards to Tdawg. I feel this show is like highlander for black male characters. There can be only one.
 
So it's just aired here in the UK,

Why tyreese why!!!!!

So many other pointless characters they could get rid of but he was one of my faves. I'm going to bed in a mood tonight. Great episode though hopefully that's a sign of things to come.
 
Very good episode, but they usually give us a good start. I liked the flashbacks to older characters (will we ever see a better bad guy in this program than The Governor!?).

Good little plot twist at the start, making you believe the funeral was held for Beth and not foreshadowing Tyreese's death.
 
Yeah the foreshadowing was a nice touch. Also liked that Michonne sword almost got her into trouble when there was a walker already with a weapon in the neck.

@Bill.s.preston Right? haha. Its like a revolving door, they must have a quota, but they want to kill as many as possible too. A new one each season (or half a season now)
 
The T-Dog is dead. Long live the T- Dog.

End of the line for T-Dog 3.0. Whose gonna step up and take his place? We already have quite a few contenders.
 
I'm surprised at how heavy set T-Dawg 3.0 still was considering they haven't exactly been feasting for the last 6 months or so (or more) and they are doing a lot of physical work.

I thought it was a good episode though. It's been said already though. We regularly get good season/mid season openers and finales while the middle episodes are boring. If they hit the road for Washington all as one group it could be good. I got an awful feeling when Steve, Michonne, Glen and the T-Dawgs were in the car that they were going to get into some trouble and that the split in the groups was going to last for the rest of the season.
 
Was decent. Dream thing was overdone I thought. Also they took absolutely ages to get to him.
 
Was decent. Dream thing was overdone I thought. Also they took absolutely ages to get to him.

Actually yeah that bothered me too. Noah ran down the road a little bit to get to the house but then when he ran off to find the others it's like he had to run a marathon. Took way too long.
 
Actually yeah that bothered me too. Noah ran down the road a little bit to get to the house but then when he ran off to find the others it's like he had to run a marathon. Took way too long.

He managed to get caught up on the porch of a completely different house, using some random fence to defend himself. Doesn't seem the brightest.
 
What I found funny was how Noah limping as he ran managed to outrun Rick and Tyreese for quite a distance.
 
They killed Cutty, that's really annoying but atleast he got a decent death. I actually thought some of the shots were excellent, not something I usually notice in this series. He went out like Denzel in Man on Fire.

My characters I give a feck about count is down one already though and it didn't have many to start with.
 
Although Glenn is a bit of a whiny fecker these days.

When did that actually happen? Because one series he was alright then the next he just moaned and complained all the time, even since Maggie came back he's just miserable.

Last nights episode was good I thought. I wasn't a big fan of Tyrese but the suspense of it all was quite different to what they normally do (the cutting off the arm giving false hope he'd live for example.) But I do wonder where they can go with the series as a whole. It's just easy watching for me really, there's plenty of times where nothing happens and they do seem to be rehashing old stories.

I still reckon the only way it can go on for 11 series as is suggested is if there's some kind of flashbacks for them all to immediately or soon after the attacks started happening. People will lose interest in the show and just tune back in to see how it ends if it carries on like this.
 
Carl to die next please can't stand the little fecker
Yes please.

It's so, so bad. Why do I keep watching?

I liked the episode but seriously, as soon as Tyrese started telling his story about his dad and then got separated with Noah, I had a feeling he would die this episode or next. Its the same thing with TWD, when they kill somebody off. Kinda a problem with not building the characters for us to care about, they suddenly think, lets give them a backstory or ep just before we kill them.

Yeah, I can't like any of the characters enough to give a damn when they die. The writers know this so tack some horrible sop story on just before they pop their cloggs.

Gonna leave this here for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-plotlines-the-walking-dead-cant-stop-repeating/
 
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Really good article and I think a lot of the criticism has been posted here but yeah, its still a ratings getter which is confusing. Guess its "simple show for simple folk" type deal.

This comment made me laugh:

Michonne's Zombie taming trick: Wow! That's what I thought the first time I saw it; great idea, right? But we only get to see her pull the stunt twice, have gotten no explanation of how she figured it out. Michonne actually has a partial solution to the zombie problem: chop their lower laws and arms off and they become guard dogs and make other undead ignore your presence- WHY isn't the group using this method to get around? Get enough tame ones together and you could ring a house or community with them and you would be safe. Why introduce such a terrific concept into your mythos and disregard it like a 3-eyed step child? I hate that they would dangle this carrot in front of the viewers every season and do nothing with the idea.

I agree. I cant believe its not even been mentioned again.
 
Yes please.

It's so, so bad. Why do I keep watching?



Yeah, I can't like any of the characters enough to give a damn when they die. The writers know this so tack some horrible sop story on just before they pop their cloggs.

Gonna leave this here for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-plotlines-the-walking-dead-cant-stop-repeating/
Every point is valid, but I still can't help but like Rick and his transformation into this merciless, cold-blooded killer. Might be cos he's practically the only decent actor on the show, I just find his role convincing and he's probably the sole character that I'd actually give a shit about were he to be killed off.
 
I just realised something, how the heck did the zombie kid open the door? When Tyrese went into the house the bedroom door was shut tight. Since when can they operate door knobs?
 
I just realised something, how the heck did the zombie kid open the door? When Tyrese went into the house the bedroom door was shut tight. Since when can they operate door knobs?

I think the room was connected through another door. There was the door tyreese came through, then what looked like a bathroom connected at the other side of the room
Where the governor came from
So in assuming it connected to the other room also. 1 bathroom for the 2 kids bedrooms.
 
Also weren't those kids Noah's brothers or something considering it was his house?
 
Was I the only one who thought all the dreams were suppose too mean something? All that happening and him staying alive all episode too just die at the end made the whole episode completely pointless.
 
I just realised something, how the heck did the zombie kid open the door? When Tyrese went into the house the bedroom door was shut tight. Since when can they operate door knobs?

Disregard logic, they'll be trying to walk through fecking walls and windows but they can use the door knobs once in a while, must've been some Mensa zombie that kid.

This show is so fecking shit yet I still somehow watch it and look forward to the next episode even though this one was gash.
 


I'm not so bothered by the writing flaws of the humans:

Rick battling with his conscience
It's a zombie apocalypse where the rules of survival have changed - it is far more interesting seeing someone struggling to come terms with that but still wanting to retain some semblance of who he was and how things were.

Irrational idiots endangering the group
Related to the point above. Most of these people have been broken by the situation and are struggling with inner turmoil. In their world it's hard to know how someone would behave.

People struggling to understand zombies aren't alive
When done well this hasn't been a stupid concept. Hershel and the Governor both have reasons for keeping their zombie family alive. They cannot bear with letting them go. That's reasonable enough. The little girl who befriends random zombies then kills her sister is just plain daft though.

Convenient deaths of non-major characters
The main cast often manages to survive while others drop like flies. So what. It's a TV show, this happens. Even GoT, where characters are killed off seemingly regularly, there's situations where a major character still manages to survive despite loads of others dying.

Ultimate goal that never pays off
Look at how it was dealt with in the lat episode. These are characters whose sole existence now is to survive. Each day is a quest for shelter and food. Can you blame them for wanting to find an actual purpose for living. For believing that there has to be a solution somewhere.

My main beef is with the way the behaviour of the zombies changes for convenience. Zombies can't run, can't climb, can't open doors, but in the first few episode you see them do all of these. Zombies are loud, until they need to sneak up on people and become silent assassins. Zombies are either dead or alive. If they're alive the are constantly squirming and shuffling for their next meal, they don't play possum to lure unsuspecting victims!!.
 
I agree. I cant believe its not even been mentioned again.

This is a stupid concept and I would be happy for them to never do it again. Why would those two zombies have protected them? IF you think about it, their presence is no different to the presence of hundreds of other zombies during a 'swarm', but the characters are not protected then. It's not really been thought out so I hope they quietly drop it.

I just realised something, how the heck did the zombie kid open the door? When Tyrese went into the house the bedroom door was shut tight. Since when can they operate door knobs?

He never opened a door. He came from an ajoining room. Saying that, in the first episode Morgan's wife tries opening the door. If you haven't re-watched that first season again it probably just didn't register, but on a second watch you realise they did a few things they shouldn't have. In the episode where Rick and Glenn cover themselves in zombie guts at least one of the zombies climbs over the fence with them and starts running at them.
 
This is a stupid concept and I would be happy for them to never do it again. Why would those two zombies have protected them? IF you think about it, their presence is no different to the presence of hundreds of other zombies during a 'swarm', but the characters are not protected then. It's not really been thought out so I hope they quietly drop it.

I agree, at the time I mentioned it was stupid. How do the Zombies know Due to smell? Due to noise? It changes all the time. Maybe Zombies cant walk past / through another zombie? I dunno but it just disappeared. Given it was introduced.

Also wasnt Michonne just standing outside the prison when she returned a few seasons ago looking at Rick, whilst all the zombies were around her not touching her? Im sure she didnt have any zombies with her.

Edit: Havent mentioned Zombies so much...
 
I agree, at the time I mentioned it was stupid. How do the Zombies know Due to smell? Due to noise? It changes all the time. Maybe Zombies cant walk past / through another zombie? I dunno but it just disappeared. Given it was introduced.

Also wasnt Michonne just standing outside the prison when she returned a few seasons ago looking at Rick, whilst all the zombies were around her not touching her? Im sure she didnt have any zombies with her.

Edit: Havent mentioned Zombies so much...

:lol: I know, right. This show makes it impossible to talk about it in any sort of depth without sounding like a huge nerd.
 
Yes please.

It's so, so bad. Why do I keep watching?



Yeah, I can't like any of the characters enough to give a damn when they die. The writers know this so tack some horrible sop story on just before they pop their cloggs.

Gonna leave this here for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-plotlines-the-walking-dead-cant-stop-repeating/

Its the subject/genre/setting. And a lack of good shows

It could be good, but it doesnt need to be for people to watch. The only thing I disagree with in the article is that there is a handful of decent characters.

Daryl, Michonne - can you really only fit your hand around 2 characters? At a long stretch there was Merle who directly tied into Daryl, but he wasnt used for what, years? And Shane was the one villain I didn't find comical but at the time he still seemed annoying.

Personally I dont care about any of the characters, and if anything I cant wait for Daryl and Michonne to die because at least I know they'll have some decent action to counter the bad storytelling.
 
Convenient deaths of non-major characters
The main cast often manages to survive while others drop like flies. So what. It's a TV show, this happens. Even GoT, where characters are killed off seemingly regularly, there's situations where a major character still manages to survive despite loads of others dying.
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In fairness without spoiling it for people who haven't seen it I'd say GoT does have more of a shock factor for killing characters than Walking Dead, it's got a bit of a reputation for doing it really! When they do kill characters off in GoT they give them more of a storyline than in Walking Dead which tends to be 1 episode (if generous.) Like that article states the Govenor having a clear shot on Carol but shooting the random guy who had been in it 10 minutes is a bit convenient. People like Rick, Daryl, Glenn and Carol all seem safe as their character has ab it of background, most of the others could just go really and the show wouldn't really have to change at all.
 
Its the subject/genre/setting. And a lack of good shows

It could be good, but it doesnt need to be for people to watch.

Perfectly summed up to be honest.

I want it to be good, a proper budgeted drama about a zombie apocalypse is a great idea on paper.

I see a lot of fans defending it, even when it obviously would be a completely forgettable show if it wasn't for the setting. Once the current 'fad' for zombies runs it course, the show will be quickly cancelled. No way it makes 11 seasons or whatever with these writers.
 
Was I the only one who thought all the dreams were suppose too mean something? All that happening and him staying alive all episode too just die at the end made the whole episode completely pointless.

Yup, was saying to my wife throughout the episode that he will stay alive because this is the most screen time he's ever got. What's the point developing his character so much just to kill him off? Had to be given an 'I told you so' by her when he did die. They did the same with Beth. And Governor. Stop doing centric episodes of cast members only to kill them off immediately. Makes watching the show frustrating.

The show needs a villain. For me the show has been terrible since that awesome mid season finale when the Governor invades the prison. Not sure where the show is going, but I don't watch many shows week by week so going to persist. At least until the end of season 5 that is.
 
I wish the characters were as interesting as the ones on the game. It doesnt even need a proper villain who does things just cos hes bad. But if its bad for the group, but good for him and his group, it would be a good conflict to have (kinda like the governor but less fecked up).

Thing is, people say, why do you keep watching? When youve invested so long into a show, its hard to just... give up.
 
Goddamn, not T-Dawg. I guess they reached their black dude quota for the season. Can't have two many of those roaming about after all.

Thought the episode was quite good for an opener - to be honest I'm surprised they killed someone off in it. And I can't complain about an episode having a bit of bonus Beth in it!
 
Yup, was saying to my wife throughout the episode that he will stay alive because this is the most screen time he's ever got. What's the point developing his character so much just to kill him off? Had to be given an 'I told you so' by her when he did die. They did the same with Beth. And Governor. Stop doing centric episodes of cast members only to kill them off immediately. Makes watching the show frustrating.

The show needs a villain. For me the show has been terrible since that awesome mid season finale when the Governor invades the prison. Not sure where the show is going, but I don't watch many shows week by week so going to persist. At least until the end of season 5 that is.
I feel exactly the same. Every episode and every story line is exactly the same. Apparently they have idea's for another 7 seasons, but in truth they don't even have idea's about what they're doing now.