The Virgin League Draft | Winner: GodShaveTheQueen

[Šjor Bepo]

Nah, I’m pretty sure most of the picked players were part of winning teams at some point.

Then drop them all!

 

[Jim Beam]

Nah, I’m pretty sure most of the picked players were part of winning teams at some point.

Am aware of that. Him actually winning the final would be the fun part with us being almost in round 6.

Then drop them all!

 

[SirScholes]

@SirScholes

nice pick.

Brutal Milan defence, too bad Maldini is a no go

 

[Fortitude]

Brutal Milan defence, too bad Maldini is a no go

You took a decision out of my hands by picking him. Didn't think he'd come back - had him in my 'elite list' players I'm surprised are still on the board.

 

[Invictus]

I think Invictus only counted the players from the final who won the draft. If we count all the players from the winning squad, there wouldn't be too many players left to pick from. I get your point though.

Nah, I’m pretty sure most of the picked players were part of winning teams at some point.

Yep, pretty much — we don't wanna go down the rabbit hole of excluding squaddies and early-round starters. I myself remember winning with a few who have been picked: Krankl in Synth, Kubala in Ludo, Buchwald in Corona...and there must be dozens more if we painstakingly inspect every single draft winning squad. Anyone who didn't make a starting appearance in a draft winning final is a-ok for the purposes of this draft!

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

S. Bruce

Wtf?

 

[antohan]

I think Invictus only counted the players from the final who won the draft. If we count all the players from the winning squad, there wouldn't be too many players left to pick from. I get your point though.

As far as I'm concerned from the moment he wasn't in a banned list he is a fair pick, that's obviously not the issue.

The issue is it's outrageous to call him a draft virgin. He carried the side all the way to the quarters... then I got Pelé. One player per country theme and reinforcements were drawn from the team you beat in each round. What the feck could he do about that? I sure wasn't passing on Pelé so that was Rivelino off to the bench. Same issue I had in the next round after beating a team with Maradona, how do you pass on Maradona? You don't. It's a bit of a mess, but you don't.

Remove the theme and he would have absolutely 100% started the final (comfortably ahead of Henry on the left). Same goes for Zanetti who had to make way for Maradona to be eligible. That's the difference with the early round fodder players others are referring to, it was theme-imposed force majeure.

Draft virgin my ass.

 

[Michaelf7777777]

I'll choose Mohamed Salah instead please

Manager

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

120

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

361

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

378

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

612

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

54

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

128

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

1971

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

269

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

55

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

899

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

271

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

206

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

253

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

567

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

159

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

22

 

[harms]

As far as I'm concerned from the moment he wasn't in a banned list he is a fair pick, that's obviously not the issue.

The issue is it's outrageous to call him a draft virgin. He carried the side all the way to the quarters... then I got Pelé. One player per country theme and reinforcements were drawn from the team you beat in each round. What the feck could he do about that? I sure wasn't passing on Pelé so that was Rivelino off to the bench. Same issue I had in the next round after beating a team with Maradona, how do you pass on Maradona? You don't. It's a bit of a mess, but you don't.

Remove the theme and he would have absolutely 100% started the final (comfortably ahead of Henry on the left). Same goes for Zanetti who had to make way for Maradona to be eligible. That's the difference with the early round fodder players others are referring to, it was theme-imposed force majeure.

Draft virgin my ass.

 

[antohan]

Take that back!

For starters, Rivelino single-handedly knocked out draft king @Gio

Came off the bench with the game 15-10 (losing) and turned it into a 16-20 win. Insane comeback win.

Years later it would get me knocked out of another draft after fielding Gunnar Nordahl and some old quotes emerging

 

[Joga Bonito]

Years later it would get me knocked out of another draft after fielding Gunnar Nordahl and some old quotes emerging

 

[Invictus]

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

120

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

361

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

378

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

612

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

54

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

128

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

1551

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

269

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

55

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

899

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

271

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

206

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

253

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

579

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

159

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

F. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

42

@Himannv

 

[Indnyc]

Please tag @Invictus for my pick

 

[Himannv]

Alan Simonsen
Jimmy Armfield

 

[Himannv]

@Fortitude

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Invictus and Physiocrat have my picks.

 

[Joga Bonito]

Alan Simonsen
Jimmy Armfield

Simonsen is blocked, so please pick again.

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

Manager

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

120

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

361

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

378

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

612

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

54

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

128

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

1551

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

269

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

55

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

899

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

271

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

206

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

253

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

579

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

159

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

42

 

[Fortitude]

R. Varane

@Jim Beam
@Pat_Mustard

 

[harms]

Take that back!

For starters, Rivelino single-handedly knocked out draft king @Gio

Came off the bench with the game 15-10 (losing) and turned it into a 16-20 win. Insane comeback win.

Years later it would get me knocked out of another draft after fielding Gunnar Nordahl and some old quotes emerging

Yeah, I think I even remember that (but it may very well be a phantom memory).

 

[Jim Beam]

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

120

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

361

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

378

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

612

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

54

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

128

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

1551

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

269

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

55

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

899

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

271

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

206

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

288

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

737

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

159

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

42

@Indnyc @Invictus

 

[Himannv]

Manager

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

120

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

361

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

378

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

612

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

54

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

128

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

1551

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

269

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

55

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

899

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

271

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

206

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

288

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

737

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

159

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

42

 

[Šjor Bepo]

R. Varane

@Jim Beam
@Pat_Mustard

Cheers for that

 

[Fortitude]

Cheers for that

Always got your best interests at heart. Sjor!

I'm sure you'll pay me back in kind.

 

[Indnyc]

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Round 1

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Round 3

Round 4

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Round 10

Round 11

Round 12

Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

120

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

361

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

378

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

612

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

54

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

128

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

1551

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

269

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

55

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

899

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

271

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

R. Ayala

216

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

288

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

737

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

159

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

42

@BIG DUNK

 

[Pythagoras]

Regarded as Argentina’s greatest pure defender, Roberto Perfumo.


@SirScholes

 

[harms]

Regarded as Argentina’s greatest pure defender, Roberto Perfumo.


@SirScholes

Nice one. You can say that about pretty much every player in this draft (hence the format), but he is underrated

 

[antohan]

WHAT.A.PLAYER

 

[Gio]

Take that back!

For starters, Rivelino single-handedly knocked out draft king @Gio

Came off the bench with the game 15-10 (losing) and turned it into a 16-20 win. Insane comeback win.

Years later it would get me knocked out of another draft after fielding Gunnar Nordahl and some old quotes emerging

Still bitter that my Davids, Xavi and Platini midfield trio lost control of that tie.

 

[Physiocrat]

Still bitter that my Davids, Xavi and Platini midfield trio lost control of that tie.

Link?

 

[Joga Bonito]

Link?

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-fantasy-draft-gio-v-antohan.365677/#post-12911232

 

[Physiocrat]

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-fantasy-draft-gio-v-antohan.365677/#post-12911232

Thanks

 

[Fortitude]

May I just say that my 737 minutes are not an accurate reflection of my drafting tendencies as the majority of those minutes are coming by way of time zones!

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

May I just say that my 737 minutes are not an accurate reflection of my drafting tendencies as the majority of those minutes are coming by way of time zones!

You can PM your choice to someone coming after you (and have a low pick time) to avoid this.

 

[harms]

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-fantasy-draft-gio-v-antohan.365677/#post-12911232

Oh, the golden age of drafts! Before we came along I miss anto's arguments.

It's funny though how drafts patterns change over the years – he would've gotten murdered for the lack of width in that Rivelino-Iniesta-Laudrup trio today! Same with John Charles at CB. It's interesting, which of our tactics/player choices would look weird in a few years.

 

[Fortitude]

You can PM your choice to someone coming after you (and have a low pick time) to avoid this.

Depends. My picks tend to be dynamic, so my feeling on how things are looking likely to pan out can see my go a completely different direction on a whim, which is why I prefer to pick in real time unless it's a no-brainer, like Kubala... -_-

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

Depends. My picks tend to be dynamic, so my feeling on how things are looking likely to pan out can see my go a completely different direction on a whim, which is why I prefer to pick in real time unless it's a no-brainer, like Kubala... -_-

Can relate to this, especially with the advantage of double picks.

I usually leave my picks with some caveats like below

Fontaine and Littbarski

if either of them is picked by Himannv, don’t make any pick

 

[Joga Bonito]

Thanks

You are welcome

May I just say that my 737 minutes are not an accurate reflection of my drafting tendencies as the majority of those minutes are coming by way of time zones!

It's always best to leave your picks (and back up picks) with Invictus. Even if he isn't online by the time it's your pick, you won't have time added to your pick timing. I reckon Sjor's method of 4 hours or 8 hours if you leave your pick with someone is the best way to go about it and speeden up things.

Oh, the golden age of drafts! Before we came along I miss anto's arguments.

It's funny though how drafts patterns change over the years – he would've gotten murdered for the lack of width in that Rivelino-Iniesta-Laudrup trio today! Same with John Charles at CB. It's interesting, which of our tactics/player choices would look weird in a few years.

. There were some really fiery matches and drama back then by the looks of things. It's really mellowed down now, although I haven't exactly been following the drafts all that much recently.

 

[Fortitude]

Can relate to this, especially with the advantage of double picks.

I usually leave my picks with some caveats like below

Ah! Particular instructions! I can get with that!

Didn't even think of adding such a caveat!

 

[Fortitude]

You are welcome



It's always best to leave your picks (and back up picks) with Invictus. Even if he isn't online by the time it's your pick, you won't have time added to your pick timing. I reckon Sjor's method of 4 hours or 8 hours if you leave your pick with someone is the best way to go about it and speeden up things.



. There were some really fiery matches and drama back then by the looks of things. It's really mellowed down now, although I haven't exactly been following the drafts all that much recently.

Yeah, GSTQ's just shown me the light.