The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

How's your immunity looking? Had covid - vote twice - vax status and then again for infection status

  • Vaxxed but no booster

  • Boostered

  • Still waiting in queue for first vaccine dose

  • Won't get vaxxed (unless I have to for travel/work etc)

  • Past infection with covid + I've been vaccinated

  • Past infection with covid - I've not been vaccinated


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Is this chap qualified enough to have an opinion?



He is indeed and that piece shows an infinitely better understanding of the nuances of these decisions than angry Vascular Physician guy above. I’d happily listen to this bloke on telly but would like to challenge him on some key points.

He doesn’t mention that the cohort being temporarily delayed access are young and at low risk of poor outcomes from covid. Plus vaccination of the elderly can go full steam ahead using the vaccines in which there is a better evidence base for them than there is with AZ. Finally, I don’t think we can be absolutely certain that this will fuel hesitancy. At least not more than news reports about these clusters leaking out while the regulators seem to not do anything in response.

There’s loads of rooms for different opinions here and nobody has the monopoly on truth. I know this is a divisive topic even amongst the people most qualified to understand it. What really does miss the point, though, are all the “politics innit” hot takes. As I said above, I think that can be far more damaging to the trust of the general public than overly cautious use of the precautionary principle.
 
No more hanging out at vaccine centres on the scrounge?

Good for you.

:lol: I thought I would get chased out by Mr Burns hounds but they were nice about it. If anyone is keen, and too young for normal channels, I would recommend going daily.
 
More than half a million doses yesterday, and looking good for groups 1-9 to maybe be done this month. I'm also seeing a few people mention that 2nd doses of Pfizer are being arranged for much less than 12 weeks after dose 1, which makes sense as we get into the lower priority groups - there's less of push to get a first dose in every arm now.

 
More than half a million doses yesterday, and looking good for groups 1-9 to maybe be done this month. I'm also seeing a few people mention that 2nd doses of Pfizer are being arranged for much less than 12 weeks after dose 1, which makes sense as we get into the lower priority groups - there's less of push to get a first dose in every arm now.



Common sense prevails. If you’re already into the 50 year olds it must be getting to the point where it wouldn’t be medicolegally defensible to continue to advise using Pfizer off-license. With cases numbers declining and hospitals emptying out there’s no need anyway.
 
Common sense prevails. If you’re already into the 50 year olds it must be getting to the point where it wouldn’t be medicolegally defensible to continue to advise using Pfizer off-license. With cases numbers declining and hospitals emptying out there’s no need anyway.

What did you win?
 
Common sense prevails. If you’re already into the 50 year olds it must be getting to the point where it wouldn’t be medicolegally defensible to continue to advise using Pfizer off-license. With cases numbers declining and hospitals emptying out there’s no need anyway.
I mentioned this a few weeks back. In Wales we used the reduction in supply the last month to concentrate on getting through the Pfizer second doses - so with us nobody waited longer than 10 weeks for their second Pfizer and by the end (next week is the last week of second dose Pfizer’s from first batch) it’ll be 3-4 weeks. It also means the second doses are out of the way for the next 4/5 weeks when supply seriously ramps up to really concentrate on getting through these age groups - I think we’ll be down to at least the under 40s by end of April.
 
Only England are doing online self-booking I think. Scotland are giving you an appointment which you can rearrange online whilst us technical savages in Wales are giving you an appointment you can rearrange on the phone :lol:
Yes mate , I phoned up last week as a 54 year old carer and was told I will be sent an appointment when I am due . I saw a 60 year old mate today who hasn`t had a date and a 63 year old about a week ago who was still waiting so we may be a bit behind with our vaccinations in Wales.
 
Yes mate , I phoned up last week as a 54 year old carer and was told I will be sent an appointment when I am due . I saw a 60 year old mate today who hasn`t had a date and a 63 year old about a week ago who was still waiting so we may be a bit behind with our vaccinations in Wales.
I don’t think we’re behind - I’m assuming “invited” in the NHS England sense means you get to book an appointment scheduled for a few weeks time. In our HB we’ll be finished over 60s - as in jabbed provided they attend their slot - end of this week - and 80% over 55s by end of next week - with over 50s done by Easter weekend. If your mates still haven’t heard anything yet I’d suggest they phone the booking line - they’ll be able to tell them when they’re booked ahead of the letter arriving. Each HB will be different though as it will depend what cohort the GPs are doing and how many have signed up etc.
 
Just got my first jab of the AZ vaccine, absolutely thrilled. I’m in my early 20s so I’m guessing a lot of people have cancelled over fears of the AZ one. Probably helps I called them like 5 minutes after they sent the text.
 
I’m due my second dose of AZ within the next 6 weeks, I had my first at the beginning of February due to being extremely vulnerable and was told I’d get my second within 8-12 weeks so now it’s a matter of waiting for the GP surgery to contact me to make an appointment. It’s a bit worrying to read about low supplies.
 
I don’t think we’re behind - I’m assuming “invited” in the NHS England sense means you get to book an appointment scheduled for a few weeks time. In our HB we’ll be finished over 60s - as in jabbed provided they attend their slot - end of this week - and 80% over 55s by end of next week - with over 50s done by Easter weekend. If your mates still haven’t heard anything yet I’d suggest they phone the booking line - they’ll be able to tell them when they’re booked ahead of the letter arriving. Each HB will be different though as it will depend what cohort the GPs are doing and how many have signed up etc.
Thanks for that mate, sounds quite promising.
 
I’m due my second dose of AZ within the next 6 weeks, I had my first at the beginning of February due to being extremely vulnerable and was told I’d get my second within 8-12 weeks so now it’s a matter of waiting for the GP surgery to contact me to make an appointment. It’s a bit worrying to read about low supplies.
On the telly now, they're going to prioritise second shots over giving firsts to younger people. No need to worry.
 

I'm going off the comments made by Ursula whatsherface. And the letter to the NHS that there's a delay with vaccines coming into the UK.

Putting it together suggests the commission are making it difficult for the UK to have its orders honoured in total contrast to what they said a few weeks ago.
 
I'm going off the comments made by Ursula whatsherface. And the letter to the NHS that there's a delay with vaccines coming into the UK.

Putting it together suggests the commission are making it difficult for the UK to have its orders honoured in total contrast to what they said a few weeks ago.
Reduction in the expected yield of AZ Manufacturing apparently - think they were hoping it would be up to 4m a week now but it’s at 2m which are needed to cover second doses.
 
I'm going off the comments made by Ursula whatsherface. And the letter to the NHS that there's a delay with vaccines coming into the UK.

Putting it together suggests the commission are making it difficult for the UK to have its orders honoured in total contrast to what they said a few weeks ago.
Nah. Just inherent unpredictability of the manufacturing process, a need to get the priority groups wrapped up, increasing need for 2nd doses, all combined with current bumper supply levels, so it was always likely to slow down at some point.

Hopefully something like novavax getting approved will counteract the dropoff anyway.
 
Nah. Just inherent unpredictability of the manufacturing process, a need to get the priority groups wrapped up, increasing need for 2nd doses, all combined with current bumper supply levels, so it was always likely to slow down at some point.

Hopefully something like novavax getting approved will counteract the dropoff anyway.

Hope so. Just seems odd given her comments prior.

The EU have made a mess of this from the very start and certain individuals from within appear hell bent on trying to save face at the expense of other regions who have handled this more effectively. Disappointing to see.
 
Hope so. Just seems odd given her comments prior.

The EU have made a mess of this from the very start and certain individuals from within appear hell bent on trying to save face at the expense of other regions who have handled this more effectively. Disappointing to see.

Yet the imminent shortage in the UK has sweet feck all to do with the EU, who have yet to prevent a single EU manufactured dose getting to UK citizens. The one and only country who could feel put out by EU actions is Australia.
 
Hope so. Just seems odd given her comments prior.

The EU have made a mess of this from the very start and certain individuals from within appear hell bent on trying to save face at the expense of other regions who have handled this more effectively. Disappointing to see.
I'm not sure a cunning plan of waiting until we've vaccinated all of our vulnerable populations way ahead of any EU member before choking off our supply would be particularly strong.
 
Yet the imminent shortage in the UK has sweet feck all to do with the EU, who have yet to prevent a single EU manufactured dose getting to UK citizens. The one and only country who could feel put out by EU actions is Australia.

Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Unsure why the EU feel they still need to be passive aggressive about it all mind. Well I do know. It seems they want to speak tough to atone for their repeated bloopers during this roll out. Fortunately it seems the people can see through it.
 

It seems to be the EU are not receiving the AZ deliveries as promised so if the Uk don't deliver the AZ vaccines the EU will keep the Pfizer for themselves.

So basically
UK- why aren't the EU using the AZ vaccine, how dare you!
EU - we haven't got any so we're going to use the Pfizer
UK - Give us the Pfizer
EU - We will; if you give us the AZ
UK - not until we vaccinated the UK first

Is everyone in the UK waving a flag, yes oh good.
 
It seems to be the EU are not receiving the AZ deliveries as promised so if the Uk don't deliver the AZ vaccines the EU will keep the Pfizer for themselves.

So basically
UK- why aren't the EU using the AZ vaccine, how dare you!
EU - we haven't got any so we're going to use the Pfizer
UK - Give us the Pfizer
EU - We will; if you give us the AZ
UK - not until we vaccinated the UK first

Is everyone in the UK waving a flag, yes oh good.

Let's be honest the EU have made a complete and utter mess of this and still continue to do so. It's embarrassing really and the repeated big talk is to try save face to the millions of people they have let down.
 
Let's be honest the EU have made a complete and utter mess of this and still continue to do so. It's embarrassing really and the repeated big talk is to try save face to the millions of people they have let down.

I'm not saying they have done a good job but why aren't the Uk delivering the AZ when the EU are delivering the Pfizer. I wish everyone would be honest.
 
It seems to be the EU are not receiving the AZ deliveries as promised so if the Uk don't deliver the AZ vaccines the EU will keep the Pfizer for themselves.

So basically
UK- why aren't the EU using the AZ vaccine, how dare you!
EU - we haven't got any so we're going to use the Pfizer
UK - Give us the Pfizer
EU - We will; if you give us the AZ
UK - not until we vaccinated the UK first

Is everyone in the UK waving a flag, yes oh good.
Yup as usual, it's all the UK's fault.
 
I'm going off the comments made by Ursula whatsherface. And the letter to the NHS that there's a delay with vaccines coming into the UK.

Putting it together suggests the commission are making it difficult for the UK to have its orders honoured in total contrast to what they said a few weeks ago.

The EU has exported 41m doses so far including 10m to the UK, who are yet to send a single dose to anyone. I think they are perfectly justified in shutting the supply down.
 
Let's be honest the EU have made a complete and utter mess of this and still continue to do so. It's embarrassing really and the repeated big talk is to try save face to the millions of people they have let down.

I think the UK has already paid for vaccines that have been produced in Belgium and other European countries whereas the EU have not had any of their vaccines produced in the UK according to the news earlier.