I just had an appointment for a booster. The nurse told me it was a Moderna shot. I have the NHS app so when I get home I took a look at my patient record and the Moderna booster info was already there.
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Brilliant, I should try that.
Was pleased the booster was the first one that hasn’t made me ill but my back is in bits
The booster wiped me out for a day and my arm hurt for a few days after.
Small price to pay for the level of protection though.
There isn't one.
The downside is you would need a 4th dose some weeks or months later.
How is that a downside of the booster?
Boosted an hour ago, third Pfizer, couldn't be arsed to wait mid January for full 8 months.
With first two I only had bad arm soreness that I couldn't even sleep on that side, we shall see with this one.
With first two I only had bad arm soreness that I couldn't even sleep on that side, we shall see with this one.
The downside is that - in the near future - people once boosted become reputedly insufficiently protected and will have to rush for a 4th dose, and continue to show a QR code in order to have the illusion of having a form of normal life.
You know nothing about the long-term health risks associated with getting multiple doses in a short period of time.
Why would people become insufficiently protected due to the booster? What kind of scientific evidence/logic are you basing that idea from?
Oh god here we go again.
Boosters are promoted because we have been told that two doses are not enough to get protected from the Macron virus.
Israel is already about to give fourth dose of vaccine to over-60s
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-59749967
The question I am wondering is Are we supposed to get 8 or 12 doses by the end of 2022?
To be honest, I can't wait for the 6th dose and get a proper gift voucher.
One word: mutations
That doesn't answer the question. The logic that you are following is similar to someone claiming that there is no point to go to the toilets today since he may have to go tomorrow while also suggesting that going to the toilet reduces the capacity of your bladder.
Yep.
Are there any benefits for younger people in catching Omicron if it proves to be mild and gaining immunity that way rather than being boosted? Most the elderly and vulnerable must be boosted and safe for 6 months or so in the UK now surely?
Give it a rest, please. This is not the thread for asking obviously stupid questions.
We know about the potential health risks of covid, both short and long term (not even counting death)
You do your business (or go to the toilet if you prefer) because you have no choice: this a practice consubstantial to the human nature. Is it possible not to go the toilets over a long period of time? I do not think so but this is my personal opinion.
My previous posts were about going to the GP or a test centre, which is still a voluntary choice, technically escapable to a certain extent of course for the worse or the best.
I am afraid that your analogy is not relevant at all.
Sure and that is why vaccination campaigns are a success.
You will grow as an individual if your thinking is challenged.
Yes. Time will tell if the next generation of variants will become less or more lethal.
When a wise man points at the moon, an idiot looks at his finger.
The analogy is about the fact that going to the toilet today won't be the reason why you will need to go later in time. For some strange reason, you linked getting vaccinated today as the reason why people may also need to be vaccinated later.
this sentence makes absolutely feckall sense mate
So please tell me all about your deep knowledge of this subject then as I am genuinely interested.
Think of Omicron as a different disease, if that helps.
It can be tempting to want to create a worldview consisting of small set of simple of propositions. But life is inevitably more complicated than that. And so are the solutions its problems.
Covid is evolving and multifarious. We can't expect a single quickfix to solve it - and everything like it - forever and ever.
I self-banned myself from COVID threads to keep my sanity. Feeling fat and happy from a great holiday weekend I ventured into this one to take a look. Bad move.
I spent a decade doing infectious disease research, with a focus on respiratory diseases. I have followed that up with another decade of working daily with academic and industry researchers in the ID field. None of that will mater to the "I did my own research" crowd. The amount of absolute shit flowing from your keyboards is mind blowing and predictable.
Time to resume my self-ban. Kudos to those of you who keep up the fight, you are better men/women than I am.
I spent a decade doing infectious disease research, with a focus on respiratory diseases. I have followed that up with another decade of working daily with academic and industry researchers in the ID field. None of that will mater to the "I did my own research" crowd. The amount of absolute shit flowing from your keyboards is mind blowing and predictable.
Time to resume my self-ban. Kudos to those of you who keep up the fight, you are better men/women than I am.
They keep popping up out of the woodwork with guns blazing, don’t they?
I know nothing about the subject but I wouldn't suggest the Covid vaccine is risk-free.
You do not seem to be an expert at detecting irony.
Did you work on something related to the Covid vaccine?
If the answer is negative, I don't know why you feel superior... If the answer is positive, please join us
I know nothing about the subject but I wouldn't suggest the Covid vaccine is risk-free.
You do not seem to be an expert at detecting irony.
Did you work on something related to the Covid vaccine?
If the answer is negative, I don't know why you feel superior... If the answer is positive, please join us
I worked in a lab that was part of the vaccine development for Prevnar, the polyvalent pneumococcal vaccine. I have read hundreds of journal articles on respiratory viruses and bacteria and dozens of articles on vaccine development. I am published in these areas. If this does not make me more informed (I am not "superior" to any human) in the area of vaccines and respiratory diseases then most people, then what does?
If your criteria to be "superior" is that one must work exactly on the topic in discussion, then I must ask if you hold this standard to all areas of your life. If a mechanic has not trained on the exact make/model/year of your car will you not hold their opinion higher than a google search or youtube video? If an oncologist specializes in prostate cancer would you not treat their diagnosis of lung cancer more informed than a WebMD search?
That's true but it doesn't actually support any of your claims or arguments.
Here's a question, now that they've opened up vaccination to 5 year olds, how important is it to get that age group vaccinated?
I haven't given it much thought, since the focus to now has been on older age groups.
I'm double jabbed, soon to be triple jabbed, so I've no reluctance to the vaccine.
Is the thinking behind vaccinating kids that it limits transmissions?
Genuinely just wondering how much I should prioritise getting my 6 year old done.
I haven't given it much thought, since the focus to now has been on older age groups.
I'm double jabbed, soon to be triple jabbed, so I've no reluctance to the vaccine.
Is the thinking behind vaccinating kids that it limits transmissions?
Genuinely just wondering how much I should prioritise getting my 6 year old done.
I think that's the general idea.
I know nothing about the subject but I wouldn't suggest the Covid vaccine is risk-free.
You do not seem to be an expert at detecting irony.
Did you work on something related to the Covid vaccine?
If the answer is negative, I don't know why you feel superior... If the answer is positive, please join us
And it was you who said that I know nothing about the effects of the vaccine.
Well at least you have admitted that it is actually you who know nothing....
Had booster today at 11am. Very quick process even though a couple pushed in when it was my turn.
Slightly worrying that there was no social distancing. This was at my GPs.
Pfizer x3 for me. Slightly sore arm
Slightly worrying that there was no social distancing. This was at my GPs.
Pfizer x3 for me. Slightly sore arm
The safest option is the booster. Even if Omicorn is milder in general, you could be one of the unlucky ones who ends up in hospital.
I just don't understand why anyone would want to take that risk. As for getting covid in order to be immune from covid I mean surely you see the flaw in that logic?
Had it earlier. Moderna booster after 2x Pfizer shots.
Arm's a little sore and I'm feeling a bit sleepy, though I always feel sleepy.
Arm's a little sore and I'm feeling a bit sleepy, though I always feel sleepy.
I see an article that the Astra zeneca vaccine has no effect of Omicron
At the same time, a study by the UK Health and Security Agency (UKHSA) revealed the reduced effect of vaccines as Omicron spreads - with even a double-dose of AstraZeneca providing no effect against symptomatic infection from the variant from 20 weeks after the second jab.
For the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, effectiveness dropped to 10% after the same period.
Does that mean someone that had the AZ jabs are back at square one- do they need another double vaccine before the booster? feck me
At the same time, a study by the UK Health and Security Agency (UKHSA) revealed the reduced effect of vaccines as Omicron spreads - with even a double-dose of AstraZeneca providing no effect against symptomatic infection from the variant from 20 weeks after the second jab.
For the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, effectiveness dropped to 10% after the same period.
Does that mean someone that had the AZ jabs are back at square one- do they need another double vaccine before the booster? feck me
Really important to remember that vaccine efficacy should be considered in terms of protection against infection and protection against severe disease.
In summary: no - absolutely not! In fact a booster of Pfizer will not only get them up to maximum effectiveness against Delta (95% +), it will give them good protection against Omicron as well. Maybe 75% protection against any infection (that is they're 3x less likely than an unvaxxed person to catch it at all) and additional protection against hospitalisation even if you do catch it.