The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

How's your immunity looking? Had covid - vote twice - vax status and then again for infection status

  • Vaxxed but no booster

  • Boostered

  • Still waiting in queue for first vaccine dose

  • Won't get vaxxed (unless I have to for travel/work etc)

  • Past infection with covid + I've been vaccinated

  • Past infection with covid - I've not been vaccinated


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Just got my 2nd jab. Never felt anything from the 1st.
 
Young and healthy people would either be young and unhealthy people or dead people if they do not get boosters twice per year or so.

It is very weird to hear people being surprised about the inevitability of getting boosters periodically for a long time. I mean, this information was there since quite early in the process, that it was very likely that the vaccines won't provide lifetime immunity and thus we will need to get boosters.

Not really. Young people who already been through a full vaccination course can get their immunity topped up by an occasional infection. Fully vaxxed young people don’t have very much to worry about when it comes to catching covid. Even after the initial high level of protection vs infection has waned they will have a good long term immune memory to protect them against severe illness.
 
Saw a queue outside the local surgery so joined it this morning. I was in, asked a couple of questions, boosted, and back in my car in less than 5 mins.

Not really got much pain in the arm at all, which is different to last time. Last time it was rock solid for days, and everything was moving really slowly.

Glad I got it done now, don't want to feel shitty for xmas.
 
Had my booster at lunch and was my 3rd Pfizer. There were people queuing outside for walk-ins but I skipped that queue and was in and out in 10 mins. No arm pain or other side effects as per the other jabs.
 
Aye I feel you, got mine tomorrow and in the same boat. Was fine after my first 2 and no doubt will be after this but if only it worked like that in my head. :lol:

Same bud. We'll get through it. Best of luck

Good luck mate.

Try to remember that any potential side effects - and hopefully there won't be any - will quickly be fought off and will protect you from the possibility of something major down the road.
Thanks bud, appreciate the kind words
 
Also now had 3 Pfizers, the nurse was a little agricultural this time which might explain the more severe arm pain. She'd have been good giving jabs to horses or cattle I reckon.
:lol:

I wish you a swift recovery, I remember my first jab and it was really painful for a few days.
 
Big booster numbers today - still need to go up by another ~30% to reach end of December target, and not convinced many people are going to be getting jabbed on Christmas Eve/Day. Still, good to see the achievement of the people involved on the ground.

 
Big booster numbers today - still need to go up by another ~30% to reach end of December target, and not convinced many people are going to be getting jabbed on Christmas Eve/Day. Still, good to see the achievement of the people involved on the ground.



Poor NI we don't even get our flag displayed :lol:.
 
So how exactly do walk-in centres work? I've just gone to book but the earliest I can get is Jan, whereas the centre says it's available for walk-ins.

I'm considering Sunday morning but I'll have to walk there and it's a 2.5 mile round trip so ideally I don't want to get turned away...
 
So how exactly do walk-in centres work? I've just gone to book but the earliest I can get is Jan, whereas the centre says it's available for walk-ins.

I'm considering Sunday morning but I'll have to walk there and it's a 2.5 mile round trip so ideally I don't want to get turned away...

Well deffo find out what the wait times are like.

I'm able to get the booster next week and may do a walk-in, depending on wait times, if the local GPs are all up the wall.
 
Makes my blood boil when you see hospital staff working their arses off to treat unvaccinated wankers
 
My mum works at a doctors surgery and said they had some vaccines left over so I popped down and got my booster. Saves me an hour round trip tomorrow to the centre I was originally booked in at.
 
Makes my blood boil when you see hospital staff working their arses off to treat unvaccinated wankers
I got a friend who has is double jabbed but for some reason doesn’t want the booster as doesn’t think it’ll do anything?
 
Had my booster a month ago still get three text messages a day reminding me to book it
 
I got a friend who has is double jabbed but for some reason doesn’t want the booster as doesn’t think it’ll do anything?

My cousin had one then decided that was enough. Bonkers. At least there's some kind of dignity in being a total anti-vax dingbat. Agreeing to have one but then stopping there makes zero sense at all
 


So...
Chinese public and private-sector companies with funding from the Chinese govt.
A university, Oxford, in cooperation with AstraZeneca, with funding from the British govt.
A startup, BioNTech, in cooperation with Pfizer, and funding from the German govt.
A startup, Moderna, with funding from the American govt.


Why did big pharma fail?
J&J was the one vaccine exclusively made by a big manufacturer, never caught on as much, was less effective, and is now officially second-class. Pfizer and AZ needed a lot of initial R&D from external sources. Roche, Eli Lily, Merck, Sandoz, nowhere to be seen.

It cannot be lack of cash, because these have been developed for under a billion dollars, and the big companies have assets 2 orders of magnitude greater (with more funding available from many govts).
Is it a lack of expertise? Both mRNA vaccines came from startups, so it seems the big ones weren't exactly at the vanguard of research. But surely they know how to make more traditional vaccines?
A lack of profit? Doesn't seem to have hurt Pfizer and Moderna's stock valuation, so it seems the market does see future profits.
 
Big booster numbers today - still need to go up by another ~30% to reach end of December target, and not convinced many people are going to be getting jabbed on Christmas Eve/Day. Still, good to see the achievement of the people involved on the ground.



Will probably see a big uptake in week leading up to NYE.

Possible could get over 40m by middle of Jan which is decent and hopefully limit impact of variant going into Feb as obviously needs a week or so to probably kick in.
 


So...
Chinese public and private-sector companies with funding from the Chinese govt.
A university, Oxford, in cooperation with AstraZeneca, with funding from the British govt.
A startup, BioNTech, in cooperation with Pfizer, and funding from the German govt.
A startup, Moderna, with funding from the American govt.


Why did big pharma fail?
J&J was the one vaccine exclusively made by a big manufacturer, never caught on as much, was less effective, and is now officially second-class. Pfizer and AZ needed a lot of initial R&D from external sources. Roche, Eli Lily, Merck, Sandoz, nowhere to be seen.

It cannot be lack of cash, because these have been developed for under a billion dollars, and the big companies have assets 2 orders of magnitude greater (with more funding available from many govts).
Is it a lack of expertise? Both mRNA vaccines came from startups, so it seems the big ones weren't exactly at the vanguard of research. But surely they know how to make more traditional vaccines?
A lack of profit? Doesn't seem to have hurt Pfizer and Moderna's stock valuation, so it seems the market does see future profits.

Luck? There was like 80 vaccines in development, it was inevitable that only a few of them would come out on top?
 
Luck? There was like 80 vaccines in development, it was inevitable that only a few of them would come out on top?

I guess! I would have expected that at least of one of the big names would have hit the spot, just having more resources to throw at it.
 
I guess! I would have expected that at least of one of the big names would have hit the spot, just having more resources to throw at it.

I only have logic to work with but I’d imagine it’s a case of putting their eggs in a basket and seeing what hatches. There’s so many variables that it’s virtually impossible to spread your bets and cover all based so it’s inevitable that some will fail.
 
Had my booster an hour ago. Hoping the side effects are minimal as my health anxiety is terrible.

Wish me luck
If you feel the fever/chills come on, don’t panic. Mine were worse than most; I woke up wondering if I needed to go to a clinic but I was fine.
 


So...
Chinese public and private-sector companies with funding from the Chinese govt.
A university, Oxford, in cooperation with AstraZeneca, with funding from the British govt.
A startup, BioNTech, in cooperation with Pfizer, and funding from the German govt.
A startup, Moderna, with funding from the American govt.


Why did big pharma fail?
J&J was the one vaccine exclusively made by a big manufacturer, never caught on as much, was less effective, and is now officially second-class. Pfizer and AZ needed a lot of initial R&D from external sources. Roche, Eli Lily, Merck, Sandoz, nowhere to be seen.

It cannot be lack of cash, because these have been developed for under a billion dollars, and the big companies have assets 2 orders of magnitude greater (with more funding available from many govts).
Is it a lack of expertise? Both mRNA vaccines came from startups, so it seems the big ones weren't exactly at the vanguard of research. But surely they know how to make more traditional vaccines?
A lack of profit? Doesn't seem to have hurt Pfizer and Moderna's stock valuation, so it seems the market does see future profits.


Partnership with biotech start-up and/or academic institutions has been a path to market for loads of drugs long before these vaccines were developed. It’s a relatively recent change in approach but it’s produced a bunch of innovative medicines. This isn’t a “failure” of big pharma. It’s success for this recent tweak to their business model.

As for the number or them that failed in Phase I/II that’s probably a lower % than in most other therapeutic areas.
 
Young and healthy people would either be young and unhealthy people or dead people if they do not get boosters twice per year or so.

It is very weird to hear people being surprised about the inevitability of getting boosters periodically for a long time. I mean, this information was there since quite early in the process, that it was very likely that the vaccines won't provide lifetime immunity and thus we will need to get boosters.
That second paragraph I disagree with. This time last year it was thought 2 doses would be sufficient. There was hope it would be sterilising, just as early in the pandemic it was hoped you couldn't be reinfected. When I got my first jab in summer there was a suggestion that some people may need a booster at some point. There was very much not a sense of inevitability.

Like a few others on here, I've had a long standing phobia of needles stemming from childhood trauma. I'm going to go and stand in line for my booster tomorrow, but I'm really, really hoping it'll be the last time I need to do that.
 
Incidentally I had my booster shot on this day last month through rather suspect means because Indonesia. Sinovac. It knocked me out real good for two days. Friends in Singapore, some even younger than me, have told me that they've received texts for booster appointments. Have you got yours yet?

Yeah I just got my booster last Friday. Took moderna for the first two shots and Pfizer for the booster. The moderna shots were brutal, but the I barely had any reaction to the Pfizer shot.

Aw man. You’re sure it wasn’t Sinovac? That’s scary news for most of my country!

Pretty sure what my friend took was sinopharm. Where are you from?
 
Got my booster 2 hours ago. Vaccination centre I booked my appointment in was pretty crowded with most of the people there being walk-ins. They made efforts to try and maintain social distancing unlike what happened for my first jab. Pretty upset with myself that I didn't book it weeks ago as I live with someone with a weakened immune system and it would have been much quieter then. I know I'm now going to be spending next 2 weeks being a hypochondriac and filled with so much anxiety that I might have got caught covid there due to the new variant being 4 times more transmissible than delta. I hate being a worrier.
I've developed a sinus issue the last few months so I regularly have to count 14 days out whenever I'm in a situation that screams potential risk so I get it. I WFH so that's helpful but live with others so constantly have to be keeping distance when possible even though everyone here is full vaxxed. Luckily we don't have Omicron here. Mainly delta so good for now.

But the Health Ministry decided this week to start boosters for everyone 18+. Last week they'd said only health workers and 60+ but expanded it this week when they got more resources. I got my second jab in October and they're going with the recommended 6 months so will see.
 
Got Pfizer shot #3 yesterday AND the flu shot same time. Thought I may have to lay low but just tiredness and a stiff left arm so far. Covid shots leave soreness and stiffness at the injection site but not flu shots for some reason
 
What is the scientific reason behind the half shot of Moderna for the booster?
 
Just got my booster. First time having a jab as an adult without popping a diazepam beforehand due to my phobia. Went really well. One positive about this whole shit show has been a possible easing of my phobia.
 
I had severe Covid in January which put me into Intensive Care.
I was told it was unlikely that I'd survive, and infact I did sadly witness every other patient on my ward die whilst I was there.
Later I discovered that three of my ICU Nurses had also subsequently died too.
Psychologically, that was really tough to get past, I've never seen so many dead bodies before, and I did have an issue with survivors guilt which I've had counselling to come to terms with.

One of the consultants did tell me, that because I'd had such severe Covid, that my anti bodies would be better than any vaccine that's ever released, just how accurate that is, I really don't know.

I have recently had Covid for a 2nd time, and I was fine, not particularly unwell at all.
Chills and fever for a couple of days, but it didn't develop into anything worse than that, and yet since January, I've been certain that a 2nd bout of Covid would finally kill me off..!!

Whether that 2nd bout was subdued because of natural resistance, or because I'd had two AZ vaccines and a Moderna booster, or it was just a weaker strain of Covid, who knows?
Possibly some sort of combination of each of these factors at play, but its anyone's guess I suppose.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad to hear that what didn't kill you made you stronger.
 
Got Pfizer shot #3 yesterday AND the flu shot same time. Thought I may have to lay low but just tiredness and a stiff left arm so far. Covid shots leave soreness and stiffness at the injection site but not flu shots for some reason

I've got some swelling under my arm/chest area. This happened last time mind and went after a couple of days.

Can actually feel the water in comparison to the other side. Weird.