@Joga Bonito you around still? Have a question for you 
The UEFA Euro Fantasy Draft
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Ivanov's position is a little off. He was an inside-right, who dropped deep in midfield, which is closer to a supporting striker/central attacking midfielder role, not a winger, he should be occupying one of Suarez/Giresse positions. Or, at least, a central forward, like he played with Streltsov in Torpedo (in 4-2-4), but I don't think that he played there in Euro's.
What do you think guys?
Overall it's a very interesting team - one of the most interesting in the draft for me, but with too many cooks in the kitchen I'm not sure that it will work - Suarez, Hidegkuti and Ivanov (and, to a lesser extent, Giresse) were all doing very similar job, albeit in a different times with different tactics. Maybe after your explanation in the match thread I will change my mind though, who knows.
From what i found, Ivanov played this position in 60' when he was a golden boot. Didnt watch the whole games but the little footage i found it looked like he played there. Four years later when they lost from Spain in the final it looks like he played that central role where they did say he was more of a playmaker then the striker. I picked him based mostly on his first Euro....
The other thing we will debate in match thread, dont want to spam the thread
Your team, your choice! The modern roles and positions are very different from the ones from the past, it is bound to create some arguing points over this draft, it's always interesting. I'm looking forward to your game.From what i found, Ivanov played this position in 60' when he was a golden boot. Didnt watch the whole games but the little footage i found it looked like he played there. Four years later when they lost from Spain in the final it looks like he played that central role where they did say he was more of a playmaker then the striker. I picked him based mostly on his first Euro....
The other thing we will debate in match thread, dont want to spam the thread
he was the blind pick, i really didnt know much about him and on paper he looked perfect. Didnt do the longer research as he and his team are not so attractive to me as some others where i watched full matches for some players(Giresse, Hidegkuti). We will see if i fecked it up.....good thing is we all probably picked at least one player on a blind side so there should be similar cases to mine
Yep, it's insane he hasn't gone yet.
I didn't know that Indonesia was present at 1938 World Cup 
Dutch East Indies national football team, ffs
Trying to get some Sarosi footage - maybe this video will interesting to some of you with the likes of Meazza and Piola in your teams, we are not exactly spoiled with CEIC footage here, so, at least the World Cup should do as an initial introduction.
30+ minutes video with footage from 1938 World Cup
Dutch East Indies national football team, ffs
Trying to get some Sarosi footage - maybe this video will interesting to some of you with the likes of Meazza and Piola in your teams, we are not exactly spoiled with CEIC footage here, so, at least the World Cup should do as an initial introduction.
30+ minutes video with footage from 1938 World Cup
It's a good team @Šjor Bepo . I think the midfield 3 is brilliant and will work just fine. But as people have said before, it's the attacking 3 which may impact overall performance. My suggestion will be to move Ivanov to IF role, get another Left Inside Forward and drop Hidegkuti to AM/False 9 role, making it a hybrid 4-3-3/4-4-2 diamond. Neville may not be a suitabe fullback for a wingless role, but I don't think it'll amount to much. He's not a weakness and can always be upgraded next round.
I assume no one has @Stobzilla pick? 30 or so minutes left I think.
Smashed last night lads.
I'm going with Thomas Brolin.
I'm going with Thomas Brolin.
I saw that it was your birthday
Didn't want to rush you since I assumed you were out getting blathered Happy belated.Nice pick. @Annahnomoss will be a fan!
I saw that it was your birthday
Nice pick. @Annahnomoss will be a fan!
Ta buddy, 8 AM start today is NOT the place to be though.
Giresse's passing would be more eye-catching in a tiki-taka sort of way, but Joga is spot on re: Lerby's passing range.
Platini lazy? Who came up with that one?
Yeah I can imagine that's a rough one. You realize with age you start to recover a little slower each time.
Who can i leave my picks with?
Pm me, should be online for the next four to five hours.
Well in. I was wondering if any of us would have the balls to pick him in light of his reputation as a bloated waster in the latter part of his career, despite his sometimes brilliant performances in UEFA 92.
I saw that it was your birthday
Nice pick. @Annahnomoss will be a fan!
Re watched Sweden in that Euro some days ago and Brolin was immense for us, our second best team in history(92-94). He was the shared top scorer of the tournament and we scored easily against any team that we played against which included winners Denmark, France and England which group we topped. Even against that Germany side with near-all legends like chomochocmocmcohcomo - and our two maybe best players(with Brolin and Z) suffering from injury(While playing) and the other one being suspended.
We still managed to score two goals. No defense can keep Brolin from creating chances at that form, not even that Germany side. He was a terrier, happy to challenge any player in to physical challenges and that Swedish side worked extremely hard as a unit lead by X and Y(both deserve a pick).
Comfortable finding space out wide, behind the defense, making ghost runs to open up space for Dahlin(he won't be picked.)
For a pure Euro performance draft Brolin is a great pick, shared top scorer, while primarily being a playmaker and proven against all top teams(Winners Denmark, England, France, Germany).
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He scored two winners in the group of death against England and Denmark. He really had a top performance overall rather than sometimes being brilliant. Unless you mean that those sometimes he was really brilliant like the goal against England which wasn't just the winning goal it was a piece of art.
Names, names, names!!!!! What the feck is wrong with you, you're doing it all the time
. Leave the names out of your posts ffs, you don't need them to make a point. You guys are crazy about those rules. I can post a link with every name of every single player, or a link to a match or refer to it but I can't say the name. Stop crying like a big Swedish baby and adhere to the rules instead
. But yes, the rules sometimes are a bit silly, nevertheless they're important.
Rinat Dasayev
1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini 2. Figo 3. Tigana 4. Tardelli 5. Krol 6. Antonin Puc 7. Planicka 8. Ceulemans 9. Vogts 10.
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit 4. Breitner 5. Deschamps 6. Sol Campbell 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Durkovic 9. Pepe
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Gentile 6. Domenghini 7. Ballack 8. Bergkamp 9. Camacho 10.
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio 4. Förster 5. Zagorakis 6. Shearer 7. Wimmer 8. Puyol 9. Combi 10.
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti 4. Popluhár 5. Bonhof 6. Suker 7. Sergio Ramos 8. Olivella 9. Jarni 10. Dasayev
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican 4. Gascoigne 5. Brian Laudrup 6. Kuznetsov 7. Capdevila 8. Branko Stanković 9. Pešek 10. Brolin
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar 4. Bergomi 5. Effenberg 6. Pluskal 7. Hoeneß 8. Villa 9. Elkjær 10. Steve McManaman
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster 4. Voronin 5. Brehme 6. Ondruš 7. Bezsonov 8. Van Moer 9. Khurtsilava 10. Ivo Viktor
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved 4. Lahm 5. Albert 6. Carvalho 7. Cocu 8. Bossis 9. Kaltz 10. Baros
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry 5. Zebec 6. Hanappi 7. Beara 8. Hässler 9. Pirlo 10. Lerby
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly 5. Kocsis 6. Burgnich 7. Stielike 8. Luigi Riva 9. Vukas 10. Hiden
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov 5. Cannavaro 6. Piola 7. Rui Costa 8. Alonso 9. Rooney 10. Alba
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup 5. Koeman 6. Buzánszky 7. Grosics 8. Ladislav Novák 9. Guardiola 10. Djorkaeff
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov 5. Giresse 6. Stam 7. Briegel 8. Busquets 9. G. Neville 10. Zoff
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola 5. Gerets 6. Lizarazu 7. Nausch 8. Iribar 9. Couto 10. Kluivert
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto 5. Bene 6. Schwarzenbeck 7. Silva 8. Smistik 9. Pires 10. Frank De Boer
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit 4. Breitner 5. Deschamps 6. Sol Campbell 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Durkovic 9. Pepe
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Gentile 6. Domenghini 7. Ballack 8. Bergkamp 9. Camacho 10.
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio 4. Förster 5. Zagorakis 6. Shearer 7. Wimmer 8. Puyol 9. Combi 10.
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti 4. Popluhár 5. Bonhof 6. Suker 7. Sergio Ramos 8. Olivella 9. Jarni 10. Dasayev
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican 4. Gascoigne 5. Brian Laudrup 6. Kuznetsov 7. Capdevila 8. Branko Stanković 9. Pešek 10. Brolin
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar 4. Bergomi 5. Effenberg 6. Pluskal 7. Hoeneß 8. Villa 9. Elkjær 10. Steve McManaman
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster 4. Voronin 5. Brehme 6. Ondruš 7. Bezsonov 8. Van Moer 9. Khurtsilava 10. Ivo Viktor
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved 4. Lahm 5. Albert 6. Carvalho 7. Cocu 8. Bossis 9. Kaltz 10. Baros
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry 5. Zebec 6. Hanappi 7. Beara 8. Hässler 9. Pirlo 10. Lerby
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly 5. Kocsis 6. Burgnich 7. Stielike 8. Luigi Riva 9. Vukas 10. Hiden
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov 5. Cannavaro 6. Piola 7. Rui Costa 8. Alonso 9. Rooney 10. Alba
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup 5. Koeman 6. Buzánszky 7. Grosics 8. Ladislav Novák 9. Guardiola 10. Djorkaeff
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov 5. Giresse 6. Stam 7. Briegel 8. Busquets 9. G. Neville 10. Zoff
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola 5. Gerets 6. Lizarazu 7. Nausch 8. Iribar 9. Couto 10. Kluivert
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto 5. Bene 6. Schwarzenbeck 7. Silva 8. Smistik 9. Pires 10. Frank De Boer
The latter. I'm not some ex-pro pundit who uses superlatives like they're going out of fashion.
His chest pass against Germany was pretty damn brilliant too, deserved a better fate than leading to nothing. Typical Brolin really, he wasn't a player who had to dwell on the ball. He really excelled in one touch playmaking as well, very much like Dragan he was capable of those odd backheel/chest pass stunts.
His development as a player was quite funny. He started off being a really hard working striker, which then turned in to being a bit of a luxury midfielder and then he revamped himself to be a great hard working midfielder and a team player.
In terms of this draft I think that quite a lot of players from that team had magnificent performances. Brolin was a big name but there are four players who was as good as him and one being injured and the other suspended was probably the reason we went out.
Germany won with 3-2 but it was a flattering score for the Swedish team and Germany were quite comfortable even if we had our chances.
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Names!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gonna go with Gerard Pique, Fantastic at Euro 2012
After the first 9 rounds, the following number of players were picked from each country. Thought that's quite interesting, I'll post the final one after we're done with all 12 rounds.
We will pick one of the greatest keepers of all time, a legend who was greatly responsible for czech being a powerhouse during the 60s. The one and only Viliam Schrojf!!!
1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini 2. Figo 3. Tigana 4. Tardelli 5. Krol 6. Antonin Puc 7. Planicka 8. Ceulemans 9. Vogts 10.
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit 4. Breitner 5. Deschamps 6. Sol Campbell 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Durkovic 9. Pepe 10. Schrojf
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Gentile 6. Domenghini 7. Ballack 8. Bergkamp 9. Camacho 10. Pique
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio 4. Förster 5. Zagorakis 6. Shearer 7. Wimmer 8. Puyol 9. Combi 10. Zambrotta
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti 4. Popluhár 5. Bonhof 6. Suker 7. Sergio Ramos 8. Olivella 9. Jarni 10. Dasayev
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican 4. Gascoigne 5. Brian Laudrup 6. Kuznetsov 7. Capdevila 8. Branko Stanković 9. Pešek 10. Brolin
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar 4. Bergomi 5. Effenberg 6. Pluskal 7. Hoeneß 8. Villa 9. Elkjær 10. Steve McManaman
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster 4. Voronin 5. Brehme 6. Ondruš 7. Bezsonov 8. Van Moer 9. Khurtsilava 10. Ivo Viktor
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved 4. Lahm 5. Albert 6. Carvalho 7. Cocu 8. Bossis 9. Kaltz 10. Baros
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry 5. Zebec 6. Hanappi 7. Beara 8. Hässler 9. Pirlo 10. Lerby
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly 5. Kocsis 6. Burgnich 7. Stielike 8. Luigi Riva 9. Vukas 10. Hiden
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov 5. Cannavaro 6. Piola 7. Rui Costa 8. Alonso 9. Rooney 10. Alba
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup 5. Koeman 6. Buzánszky 7. Grosics 8. Ladislav Novák 9. Guardiola 10. Djorkaeff
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov 5. Giresse 6. Stam 7. Briegel 8. Busquets 9. G. Neville 10. Zoff
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola 5. Gerets 6. Lizarazu 7. Nausch 8. Iribar 9. Couto 10. Kluivert
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto 5. Bene 6. Schwarzenbeck 7. Silva 8. Smistik 9. Pires 10. Frank De Boer
@crappycraperson
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit 4. Breitner 5. Deschamps 6. Sol Campbell 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Durkovic 9. Pepe 10. Schrojf
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Gentile 6. Domenghini 7. Ballack 8. Bergkamp 9. Camacho 10. Pique
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio 4. Förster 5. Zagorakis 6. Shearer 7. Wimmer 8. Puyol 9. Combi 10. Zambrotta
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti 4. Popluhár 5. Bonhof 6. Suker 7. Sergio Ramos 8. Olivella 9. Jarni 10. Dasayev
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican 4. Gascoigne 5. Brian Laudrup 6. Kuznetsov 7. Capdevila 8. Branko Stanković 9. Pešek 10. Brolin
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar 4. Bergomi 5. Effenberg 6. Pluskal 7. Hoeneß 8. Villa 9. Elkjær 10. Steve McManaman
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster 4. Voronin 5. Brehme 6. Ondruš 7. Bezsonov 8. Van Moer 9. Khurtsilava 10. Ivo Viktor
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved 4. Lahm 5. Albert 6. Carvalho 7. Cocu 8. Bossis 9. Kaltz 10. Baros
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry 5. Zebec 6. Hanappi 7. Beara 8. Hässler 9. Pirlo 10. Lerby
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly 5. Kocsis 6. Burgnich 7. Stielike 8. Luigi Riva 9. Vukas 10. Hiden
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov 5. Cannavaro 6. Piola 7. Rui Costa 8. Alonso 9. Rooney 10. Alba
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup 5. Koeman 6. Buzánszky 7. Grosics 8. Ladislav Novák 9. Guardiola 10. Djorkaeff
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov 5. Giresse 6. Stam 7. Briegel 8. Busquets 9. G. Neville 10. Zoff
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola 5. Gerets 6. Lizarazu 7. Nausch 8. Iribar 9. Couto 10. Kluivert
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto 5. Bene 6. Schwarzenbeck 7. Silva 8. Smistik 9. Pires 10. Frank De Boer
@crappycraperson
Unless I made a mistake somewhere,
@The Red Viper & @harms & @Joga Bonito still need 1 pre-66 player
@Aldo & @Paolo Di Canio need both their last 2 picks to be pre-66 players.
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@crappycraperson also needs one last pre-66 player.
@everyone:
Don't forget that 3 pre-66 players need to play. If you only have 3 of them in the squad, you can't have one of them on the bench or sub him off.
@everyone:
Don't forget that 3 pre-66 players need to play. If you only have 3 of them in the squad, you can't have one of them on the bench or sub him off.
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No problem Balu
my next pick is with MJJ but ill mail you aswell Balu to be safe aswell to be safe
my next pick is with MJJ but ill mail you aswell Balu to be safe aswell to be safe
I didn't want to rush you (or anyone else). It's fine if MJJ has your pick. Just thought I remind everyone about the rules before we end up with a bit late drama because of a misunderstanding regarding some players and how they count or something like that
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