The Trump Presidency - Part 2

[langster]

Wow, RFK giving an interview saying that the measles vaccine isn't as effectiive and kids used to be immunised through their mother breast milk.

And at the same time Trump is giving probably one of his most batshit press conferences I've seen.

The EU was created to take advantage of the USA.

Ireland is taking advantage of the USA.

The Department of Education is full of people who don't work, many don't show up for work and those that do, most don't do a good job.

The civil servants that were fired and lost their jobs were most bad workers who didn't do their job properly or didn't even turn up at all.

Biden should never have let Russia invade Ukraine and Ukraine looks like Gettysburg in its prime.
https://x.com/atrupar
"Everything is transgender. Everybody transgender. That's all you hear about. No. That's why we won the election in record numbers."

Canada withdrew their little threat. When discussing tarrifs and how April 2nd will be a fantastic day for the USA as they will start getting their money back from everywhere that has been ripping them off for years.

When asked who is favourite Irish person was he said Conor McGregor

A bit more of his usual bullshit about dealing with the EU when applying for planning for his Irish resort and the EU being impossible to deal with despite his resort being one of the absolute best in the entire EU.

More about Ukraine being the problem and not Russia and the interesting White House meeting with Zelensky.

NATO having to be fair to the USA in order for the USA to stay in NATO.

And then this absolute beauty. Insanely offensive comment about Chuck Schumer saying .

"Schumer is a Palestinian as far as I'm concerned. He's become a Palestinian. He used to be Jewish. He's not Jewish anymore. He's a Palestinian."

Typical day in Trumpland.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

Wow, RFK giving an interview saying that the measles vaccine isn't as effectiive and kids used to be immunised through their mother breast milk.

And at the same time Trump is giving probably one of his most batshit press conferences I've seen.

The EU was created to take advantage of the USA.

Ireland is taking advantage of the USA.

The Department of Education is full of people who don't work, many don't show up for work and those that do, most don't do a good job.

The civil servants that were fired and lost their jobs were most bad workers who didn't do their job properly or didn't even turn up at all.

Biden should never have let Russia invade Ukraine and Ukraine looks like Gettysburg in its prime.
https://x.com/atrupar
"Everything is transgender. Everybody transgender. That's all you hear about. No. That's why we won the election in record numbers."

Canada withdrew their little threat. When discussing tarrifs and how April 2nd will be a fantastic day for the USA as they will start getting their money back from everywhere that has been ripping them off for years.

When asked who is favourite Irish person was he said Conor McGregor

A bit more of his usual bullshit about dealing with the EU when applying for planning for his Irish resort and the EU being impossible to deal with despite his resort being one of the absolute best in the entire EU.

More about Ukraine being the problem and not Russia and the interesting White House meeting with Zelensky.

NATO having to be fair to the USA in order for the USA to stay in NATO.

And then this absolute beauty. Insanely offensive comment about Chuck Schumer saying .

"Schumer is a Palestinian as far as I'm concerned. He's become a Palestinian. He used to be Jewish. He's not Jewish anymore. He's a Palestinian."

Typical day in Trumpland.

That comment about Schumer is incredibly fecking antisemitic.

 

[diarm]

Of course he loves McGregor. Two of the greatest cnuts ever to cnut.

 

[Idxomer]

That comment about Schumer is incredibly fecking antisemitic.

It's more anti-Palestinian racism really, as he keeps using their nationality as an insult. It also doesn't make sense when you think about it, but this never matters for Trump.

 

[4bars]

That comment about Schumer is incredibly fecking antisemitic.

This comment is because i am just bored. Jews and palestinians are both semitic

 

[moses]

'We don't want to do anything to hurt Ireland'

Cheers Donald.

 

[Mike Smalling]

When asked who is favourite Irish person was he said Conor McGregor

He's obviously never heard of Denis Irwin.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[JPRouve]

'We don't want to do anything to hurt Ireland'

Cheers Donald.

It reads like a threat.

 

[decorativeed]

He's obviously never heard of Denis Irwin.

Out of the two, it's fair he chose someone he could identify most with, both having been found by jurys to have committed rape.

 

[moses]

It reads like a threat.

100%

I hope our Dept of Foreign Affairs are reaching out to Canada, Mexico and Denmark. We should form a "Not Your fecking 51st State" alliance.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

Wow, RFK giving an interview saying that the measles vaccine isn't as effectiive and kids used to be immunised through their mother breast milk.

And at the same time Trump is giving probably one of his most batshit press conferences I've seen.

The EU was created to take advantage of the USA.

Ireland is taking advantage of the USA.

The Department of Education is full of people who don't work, many don't show up for work and those that do, most don't do a good job.

The civil servants that were fired and lost their jobs were most bad workers who didn't do their job properly or didn't even turn up at all.

Biden should never have let Russia invade Ukraine and Ukraine looks like Gettysburg in its prime.
https://x.com/atrupar
"Everything is transgender. Everybody transgender. That's all you hear about. No. That's why we won the election in record numbers."

Canada withdrew their little threat. When discussing tarrifs and how April 2nd will be a fantastic day for the USA as they will start getting their money back from everywhere that has been ripping them off for years.

When asked who is favourite Irish person was he said Conor McGregor

A bit more of his usual bullshit about dealing with the EU when applying for planning for his Irish resort and the EU being impossible to deal with despite his resort being one of the absolute best in the entire EU.

More about Ukraine being the problem and not Russia and the interesting White House meeting with Zelensky.

NATO having to be fair to the USA in order for the USA to stay in NATO.

And then this absolute beauty. Insanely offensive comment about Chuck Schumer saying .

"Schumer is a Palestinian as far as I'm concerned. He's become a Palestinian. He used to be Jewish. He's not Jewish anymore. He's a Palestinian."

Typical day in Trumpland.

It’s pretty unbelievable he’s being this open with what he’s saying and doing. How can no one hold him to account for his total bullshit.

All just seems hot air and for media clicks.

The guy thinks he’s presenting a late night comedy show.

 

[Smores]

It’s pretty unbelievable he’s being this open with what he’s saying and doing. How can no one hold him to account for his total bullshit.

All just seems hot air and for media clicks.

The guy thinks he’s presenting a late night comedy show.

The last decade has demonstrated very clearly that there's no accountability as the US president or even as the UK prime minister. Do what you want within your term, lower standards or break the system it doesn't matter.

What's worse is when standards fall it's easier for those like Trump to get in. I don't think we'll see political normality for quite some time.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

The last decade has demonstrated very clearly that there's no accountability as the US president or even as the UK prime minister. Do what you want within your term, lower standards or break the system it doesn't matter.

What's worse is when standards fall it's easier for those like Trump to get in. I don't think we'll see political normality for quite some time.

Trump is taking it to all new low level surely though. I saw he recently in the Mr McMahon documentary at the wrestling years ago, that should be enough to bar you from being the US president, let aLone everything else he’s done.

 

[TheGame]

 

[berbatrick]

the job offer was withdrawn

 

[ColvaleGoa]

If anyone fancies a Tesla

 

[langster]

That is pretty funny to be fair.

Again though it just reiterates the point being made by others in the posts above. This shit just isn't normal, but it's the bar that just keeps on getting lower and lower by the day.

 

[berbatrick]

The next mayor of New York City supports the end of the first amendment

 

[langster]

Earlier today we had JFK and his potentially dangerous Measles misinformation comments and opinions now jere's Trump and co and their move to do everything they can to destroy any climate change laws, promises, plans and protections. They now want to freeze and reclaim money already given or spent and on top of that possibly charge recipients of the grants.

Trump's on a complete and utter rampage and trying to destroy everything and anyone in his path.

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

The next mayor of New York City supports the end of the first amendment

The timing of his "comeback" isn't a coincidence.

 

[Kinsella]

It is a serious issue, which is why your assertions get such pushback.

These ‘assertions’, as you term them, are based on learnings from history, or platitudes as you call, and on the considered thoughts of highly distinguished figures with infinitely more experience in the field than you or I, or anyone else contributing to the thread.

It was the hollow empty nature of the use of the phrase that made me call its use in this thread a platitude.

I suppose learnings from history must always appear platitudinous to a Marxist because the follower of such an ideology has to dismiss an overwhelming amount of it, in order to hold such beliefs.

And yes again we are off topic.

Yep, let’s just agree to disagree. It’s pointless carrying on with it.

 

[Lemoor]

These ‘assertions’, as you term them, are based on learnings from history, or platitudes as you call, and on the considered thoughts of highly distinguished figures with infinitely more experience in the field than you or I, or anyone else contributing to the thread.

Sure, buddy. Of course an American/British expert on everything has more to say about political history of a country across the world than people, however politically engaged, from there. After all, we all know that those non-Westerners, regardless of education or experience, just can't get on the comprehension level of an enlightened Western scholar.
I'm sure Mearsheimers of the world are dodging the critics because they just can't bear completely embarassing them.

 

[Kinsella]

Sure, buddy. Of course an American/British expert on everything has more to say about political history of a country across the world than people, however politically engaged, from there.

I compared them with the vast majority of people in this thread, not with the vast majority of the population in Ukraine.

After all, we all know that those non-Westerners, regardless of education or experience, just can't get on the comprehension level of an enlightened Western scholar.

Did I ever claim such a thing? You’re attributing things to me which I’ve never said.

I'm sure Mearsheimers of the world are dodging the critics because they just can't bear completely embarassing them.

It’s George Keenan and Jeffrey Sachs that I’ve paid most attention to, but you can add Mearsheimer as well.

Keenan is long dead. I’m not aware of Sachs dodging any critics, but if Mearsheimer has/does then that’s his business I suppose. The debate is a pretty predictable one in any case.

 

[moses]

These ‘assertions’, as you term them, are based on learnings from history, or platitudes as you call, and on the considered thoughts of highly distinguished figures with infinitely more experience in the field than you or I, or anyone else contributing to the thread.


I suppose learnings from history must always appear platitudinous to a Marxist because the follower of such an ideology has to dismiss an overwhelming amount of it, in order to hold such beliefs.


Yep, let’s just agree to disagree. It’s pointless carrying on with it.

The idea that you alone have access to history books explains a lot about your posts.

The idea that someone who doesn't agree with your take on history is a dismissal of it explains why it's impossible to discuss things with you.

Your baseless arrogance is not even the most tedious thing about you.

I gave up trying to have discussions with you a long time ago. I mostly just flag your posts in case people miss how consistently toxic you are.

 

[Salt Bailly]

Everything's computer!

 

[Kinsella]

The idea that you alone have access to history books explains a lot about your posts.

Ahh…so you think I’m putting myself across a some sort of ‘enlightened scholar of history’? Ok

The idea that someone who doesn't agree with your take on history is a dismissal of it explains why it's impossible to discuss things with you.

By contrast, your response to the whole notion of ‘Western’ contribution to the current situation seems to be that Putin has agency. As if that’s an answer.

Your baseless arrogance is not even the most tedious thing about you.

It’s not arrogant to point out things that go against the grain in here, and it’s hasn’t been baseless either given the many examples cited.

I gave up trying to have discussions with you a long time ago. I mostly just flag your posts in case people miss how consistently toxic you are.

Thanks

Being called toxic by the person whose default position is to look for the good in the anti-human Soviet Union gives me a warm feeling.

 

[moses]

It’s not arrogant to point out things that go against the grain in here, and it’s certainly not baseless either.

Nobody thinks going against the grain is arrogant. But that goalpost shifting is one of the tedious aspects of your contributions here.

The idea that you analyse one of the dominant forces in the last century is basically the essence of the idea that we learn from history. The fact that an ideology of equality led to such a disaster of a monster state does in fact interest historians. Not you obviously. It's no shock you just default to a hysterical 'red scare' stance.

A similar analysis of the third Reich would also show you that the Treaty of Versaille was not really the thrust of the issue.

 

[Lemoor]

I compared them with the vast majority of people in this thread, not with the vast majority of the population in Ukraine.

You literally said "anyone else contributing to this thread".

Did I ever claim such a thing? You’re attributing things to me which I’ve never said.

At this point it's a generous interpretation, considering how selective and arrogant you are with both sources you are using, but also claims you're responding to.

Keenan is long dead. I’m not aware of Sachs dodging any critics, but if Mearsheimer has/does then that’s his business I suppose. The debate is a pretty predictable one in any case.

Sachs is also the one that is making the claims orders of magnitude weaker than the other two and, as far as I know at least, doesn't try to do the bullshit Rorschach's I told you so's without any engagement with what other people have been saying for decades. Vast majority of what I've seen from him has been about practicality of Ukraine's war goals, which I legitimately have very little opinion about and would not bother engaging anything, since I don't really have anything to add.
Yes, the question of "how the feck can you claim that Russia would not be acting imperialistically, if it wasn't for NATO enlargement, when they have been doing it way before that with an almost collapsed state" has a very predictable outcome. And that's probably not even the biggest problem with the other two.

 

[Kinsella]

Nobody thinks going against the grain is arrogant. But that goalpost shifting is one of the tedious aspects of your contributions here.

Perhaps you can provide examples of this shifting of the goalposts?

The idea that you analyse one of the dominant forces in the last century is basically the essence of the idea that we learn from history. The fact that an ideology of equality led to such a disaster of a monster state does in fact interest historians. Not you obviously. It's no shock you just default to a hysterical 'red scare' stance.

This’ll sound arrogant but your syntax isn’t good there. Perhaps you can rephrase it?

A similar analysis of the third Reich would also show you that the Treaty of Versaille was not really the thrust of the issue.

I mentioned the Treaty of Versailles because you brought up Hitler, and drew a parallel between Putin and Hitler in doing so.

The point in doing so was to highlight the role that said Treaty played in the rise of extremism in Germany after the war; thus providing the conditions or platform for Hitler to get to power. (The only thing I found interesting after bringing it up was to see a Marxist dismiss or gloss over these social conditions)

 

[moses]

I mentioned the Treaty of Versailles because you brought up Hitler, and drew a parallel between Putin and Hitler in doing so.

No. Read back. I brought it up because it was the elephant in the room in the 'lessons from history' discussion that was already taking place. Showing that sometimes the protagonist shouldn't be overlooked.

Omitting that fact from the 'lessons' just highlighted that there was a selective use of history.