Calling it phase 1 and releasing it to a bunch of influencers to parade around with make america great again caps is bizarre
The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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Calling it phase 1 and releasing it to a bunch of influencers to parade around with make america great again caps is bizarre
As i've said previously, these online MAGA types think they are playing an ARG. 
They were essentially given an edited address book
but they think they are now deep in a plot to finally uncover "the deep state". That they have "insider knowledge". They think they are woodward and bernstein, in reality they are online losers with no life.
They were essentially given an edited address book
but they think they are now deep in a plot to finally uncover "the deep state". That they have "insider knowledge". They think they are woodward and bernstein, in reality they are online losers with no life.
MAWA? - May All Welsh Abjugate?
Record levels of illegal inactivity at the border, exactly why hes popular and unpopular with the cartels etc, looks like shit is going to kick off down there.
It won't. Cartels fear one thing and that's Uncle Sams disproportionate response to any of their activities.
The last time Americans got hit by Cartels, the Cartels issued a letter of apology to the US government and put like 5 people in the street claiming they were the perps.
stupidity, malice, both
I've been trying but everyday it's some bullshit from the orange swine.
Thanks x. At least you have an option if it becomes unbearable.
It's a combination of a few things and seeing all the ridiculous bullshit just adds to it. It's been a few tough months and I do try to tune it out but some things are too hard to ignore. Thanks for the advice. You are right we shouldn't worry too much about things we can't control. I just get very angry when I think about all the people that voted for this.
This is got to be batshit crazy, why are randomers being given the so called Epstein files and parading them around. Now apparently, there was nothing in the files!
Musk was somewhat joking about the ebola prevention that was accidentally dropped and then restored, claiming no harm done.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/health/musk-ebola-funding.html
Obviously it's somewhat easy when you can control the narrative, but i can't imagine the outcome of DOGE being anything but an absolute disaster.
Imo it takes a significant amount of time to research what you can and what you can't drop, so that you actually understand the consequences that will happen. Not all consequences will be instantly visible, like the ebola funding where it's easy to point out that it's a feck up where funding needs to be restored, some of it will only be clear cut a few years down the line and it's not going to be something that can easily be restored.
It is a mix of both things. If Meta stock is down considerably it likely would hint at one of their platforms bleeding user base to another competitor which would also be a sign of loss of influence. Regardless, like I said wealth of these billionaires is tied to stock price of their most important asset. Diversifying that outside of stock market is nigh on impossible in the current economic reality. They are not gonna stand behind Trump and co, if his policies result in 40-50% of their wealth being wiped out due to market crash.
I don't think it's much of a mix. If all Musk had was money then i doubt he'd have the access he's currently enjoying, it's more related to his ownership and direct involvement in X, and how it's a invaluable tool for directly interacting with their audience to spread a narrative. Even if you have an increase in people leaving that platform and going somewhere else, the people leaving are likely to be people they won't be able to influence anyway
As for their platform bleeding users to another competitor, i doubt it's going to happen anytime soon, first it's going to require an actual alternative and secondly it's going to require the content becoming so problematic that their platforms will no longer be the preferred method of interacting and communicating with friends and family.
We're also at an important point where structures will need to be in place for AI, data handling, a seat at the table can be fairly invaluable in terms of solidifying the positions their companies have and how far they can take advantage of the data they are already sitting on, which can generate plenty of revenue for years and years to come. Not to mention potential government deals, tax benefits for the ultra rich. While on the other hand, you risk the yank government pushing hard to punish their company.
So nah, i can't really imagine that any of them will turn quickly on the basis of the stock prices potentially falling.
Great segment here and some great questions from the press to Trumpski. Why can't all reporters do this with every question in every single press conference?
I guess those guys will be barred from asking questions to him ever again. Obviously The Independent will be on his 'treated me very unfairly, fake news' list from now on.
He's been a laughing stock for years, this isn't new.
As for world leaders interrupting him, they do it in such a passive scared way that it means nothing.
Starmer was pathetic the other day with his "rebuttal" to Vance spewing shite about free speech in the UK affecting big tech and therefore America.
He said something like "We have had free speech in the UK for a long time and will continue to do so, but of course we don't want to upset our American friends."
It's JD fecking Vance he is bowing to. Tell him to shut the feck up and get out of the room.
Regarding those tarrifs.
And let me preface this by stating I'm not exactly an economy buff (I know feck all about it).
Putting tarrifs on foreign goods makes them more expensive to import for American business right? So in the short term it "hurts" Americans and American companies importing stuff. I suppose in the long run it's meant to encourage local production or something, but why is it framed as, "haha, we will make these countries pay more!" while it's the exact opposite?
Am I missing some sort of nuance here?
Nope, you've got it.
So where can I sign on to the US government? My feck all seems quite a lot now
In Trump's idiotic mind it's the government of foreign country that pays those tariffs and there's no impact to prices.
He doesn't actually believe that though, he's a liar and very well aware that his constituency is almost exclusively cretins who don't understand how wrong this is anyway. There's no way he actually believes that, his advisors are also not exclusively extremely dumb people, they know very well what the implications are going to be. MAGA will simply believe that he's getting hundreds of billions of extra income from all the other countries out there and will mock previous regime for not being able to come up with something so simple yet so ingenious.
Taking away food from malnourished children.
Nope. You also have to think rather long term before the US could set up the entire, for example, steel, aluminum and car production steps up that are completed in Canada. We're talking well beyond his term.
That would be acceptable if this was good economic theory, but you'll find no-one who sees tariffs as a good idea. Not among economists either. Well, to be fair, Trump did find one person - and made him his trade guy.
It's utter Insanity and based on a complete misconception of what trade surplus/deficit mean. (Ever since the 80s, Trump has mentioned how he hates the US's trade deficit, confusing it for a problematic issue and loser situation where it really isn't.)
That's simply put. But often time tarrifs are well calculated. They have substitute goods ready in waiting either locally or from a friendlier supplier.
Some can even be put for retaliation against other issue, and yes while people get hurt but sometimes it's necessary evil. Like for instance to help promote local producers from relying too much on import of certain products
At some point it can be beneficial and necessary
If you're talking who will pay the bill, it's whoever does the importing. The economic cost is split between the exporter, every company involved with the product until it reaches the consumers, and the consumers.
Sadly, the worst part is very similar to how the price of beer goes up in the budget here in the UK. The government put it up 1 or 2p a pint only for the breweries, storage depots & delivery companies to also put their prices up so usually the customer sees a 10 or 20p rise.
That's the same with tarrifs. When faced with import and export duties and then tarrifs on top, it would be so immensely time consuming, especially for smaller companies importing multiple different items, to pass the exact costs on to the customers so many will round the numbers up to ensure they are not losing out or earning less than they used to before the tarrifs. You can guarantee consumers will be looking at a rise of 30% or more by the time the tarrifs come in to effect.
Although, has Trump said what specific things will receive the tarrifs? Because i'm sure I remembered him saying the tarrifs will be targeted to say oil, energy, steel and things like that, but definitely selective. Or does he mean 100% across the board on everything from those countries he's put the tarrifs on?
Nobody. Nobody is dumb enough to impose blanket tarriff. That's a recipe for disaster akin to blowing up your own gas tank.
Right?
A 10% blanket tarriff of China would explode the whole world economy, the ripple effect would be catastrophical.
Exactly, but (as many others have too) I've been watching and reading about his tarrifs threats and intentions and not found any consistentcy (as expected tbh) where Trump has indicated what the tarrifs will be placed upon, especially where China is concerned. He's either vague, mentions a few things and alludes to others but he's never 100% specific about his intentions.
I would hope he's not stupid enough to try a blanket tarrif and would hope he was stopped if he did, but with this clown.... You just don't know.
His fixation with tariffs is positively childlike in it's single mindedness. What's going to happen when a big enough number of countries call his bluff and say 'no more concessions after threats from tariffs. Do your worst'?
As it stands right now, on March 4, all Mexican imports will have a 25% tariff, all Canadian imports will have the same with a few exceptions, oil is 10%, all Chinese imports will have 10%, some of these are on top of the existing tariffs - essentially these are blanket tariffs
Journalists can’t let him get away with his gaslighting on the Zelenskyy dictator comment. His whole ‘I don’t remember saying that, next question’ was some serious Orwellian shit. They need to keep badgering him about it. He can’t throw them all out of the press conferences.
It might backfire and annoy him so much he'll say it again out of spite.
Yes he can if he wants to, he doesn't even need to have press condferences if he doesn't want to
Yea but to be fair do you remember Obama wore a tan suit that time? That was unbelievable.
“Don’t worry, nothing to this story, we just let someone in the Oval Office who had no right being there, that’s all.”
I really don't think Trump is lying about tariff's, I think he's just too thick to understand it
I think so too. That's the trouble with surrounding yourself with sycophants and yes men. You have no one to challenge you. There was a degree of it in his first term with 4 star generals reeling him in during scary moments, as well as various other competent folks. Now who does he have to tell him otherwise - Elon Musk? The ket fiend doesn't even have credible knowledge on any of his industries.