The Trump Presidency - Part 2

[Red in STL]

Gotta say I agree with the former here.

If there is a normal presidential election in 2028, why would they go with Vance? He has negative charisma, and would not do well in the general election. And if they plan some form of power grab, it will just be Trump or possibly Musk.

I have no doubt he''s planning to run again or just stay in power but I don't think he'll succeed

 

[afrocentricity]

You’d think that the Dems would just have to find a non-terrible candidate to get an easy win over Vance in 2028, but finding non-terrible candidates has been their Achilles heel of late

why is that?

 

[WI_Red]

why is that?

Because the gerontological leadership, and their billionaire donors, are more concerned with holding power in their desiccated hands than actually winning, let alone helping people.

 

[Sky1981]

You’d think that the Dems would just have to find a non-terrible candidate to get an easy win over Vance in 2028, but finding non-terrible candidates has been their Achilles heel of late

To be a little fair to them they're in a tough spot. The dems are split between super liberal and sane democrats imho

Even if they come up with their own version of Trump they'll bound to lose a good % of their supporter either way

At political level i believe that nobody is that stupid they cant see what we're seeing. It's more like we dont see what they're seeing

At least the GOP knew their audience well and they're one voice, the dems not so much. Even if they get behind Bernie they'll still lose some votes. The GOP can field anyone and they wont lose that many votes

 

[Red Star One]

To be a little fair to them they're in a tough spot. The dems are split between super liberal and sane democrats imho

Even if they come up with their own version of Trump they'll bound to lose a good % of their supporter either way

At political level i believe that nobody is that stupid they cant see what we're seeing. It's more like we dont see what they're seeing

At least the GOP knew their audience well and they're one voice, the dems not so much. Even if they get behind Bernie they'll still lose some votes. The GOP can field anyone and they wont lose that many votes

these are inherent qualities in the left-wing/right-wing split all across the world. right-wing has it easier in that sense, because conservative voters are easier to unify and more likely to follow the leadership, while liberals always find it hard to respect authority and love an infight.

 

[Cheimoon]

That's because he plans to a) run again b) simply stay in power

He's also well-known to like to play out his staff against each other. I'm not sure what he thinks to get out of it, but it came up time and again during his first presidency. Plus he's been lukewarm about Vance during the campaign as well.

I mean, I totally expect Trump to put a lot of effort into making sure that either he can become president again or whoever he selects becomes the president (or elections are somehow cancelled or judged invalid, so he can simply stay in power). I just don't think that's related to him not endorsing Vance.

 

[Red in STL]

You’d think that the Dems would just have to find a non-terrible candidate to get an easy win over Vance in 2028, but finding non-terrible candidates has been their Achilles heel of late

Selecting a non-terrible candidate is probably more accurate rather than not having any, they have at least 3 that I can think of currently that are not terrible, Newsom, Whitmer and Buttigieg

 

[Eric_the_Red99]

why is that?

Because they’re really really bad at politics?

 

[Red in STL]

Because they’re really really bad at politics?

I'd say they're not just as good at lying

 

[Maagge]

I'd say they're not just as good at lying

I think it's more that their voters are turned off them when they lie.

 

[KirkDuyt]

I think it's more that their voters are turned off them when they lie.

That's a large part of it isnt it? Maga voters have no standards in regards to what they vote for. Trump can club scores of baby's to death on tv and they wouldnt care 1 bit.

On the other side, the dem candidate will probably lose plenty of votes for making an online post that seems sexual but isnt on a football website.

 

[Red in STL]

I think it's more that their voters are turned off them when they lie.

Whilst that's true, the opposition won because they lie about more or less everything and it works

 

[TheRedHearted]

Marco Rubio is living a shit life right now. Nancy Pelosi has had it rough these past decades.

Those kind of blanket statements you quoted just furthers anger and divide.

Was quoting the other commenter who said it. I agree it’s garbage

 

[Maagge]

Whilst that's true, the opposition won because they lie about more or less everything and it works

Yes it works for the republicans because their voters don't care at all about stuff like facts and reality.

 

[Sweet Square]

Maga voters have no standards in regards to what they vote for. Trump can club scores of baby's to death on tv and they wouldnt care 1 bit.

On the other side, the dem candidate will probably lose plenty of votes for making an online post that seems sexual but isnt on a football website.

A democratic president/administration spent over a year supplying ammunition and bombs for a genocide where half the population aren’t adults.

Democrats voters have just as low standards
as Republicans.

 

[Sweet Square]

 

[Mike Smalling]

Am I wrong in thinking it’s unusual to already be in the red at this point?

 

[Red in STL]

Am I wrong in thinking it’s unusual to already be in the red at this point?

Trump has never had a rating above 49%, even in his first term

 

[Mike Smalling]

Trump has never had a rating above 49%, even in his first term

There you go. Just too many people with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

[Red in STL]

There you go. Just too many people with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Biden only managed 50%+ for about the first 6 months of his term

 

[VeevaVee]

A democratic president/administration spent over a year supplying ammunition and bombs for a genocide where half the population aren’t adults.

Democrats voters have just as low standards
as Republicans.

Mental thing to say. Most democrat voters would have been against that but don’t get a say in whether it happens. Most republican voters will passionately defend anything they do.

 

[Sweet Square]

Most democrat voters would have been against that but don’t get a say in whether it happens.

They voted for Harris who was part of that administration and fully backed Biden policy.

Most republican voters will passionately defend anything they do.

Gaza showed there was no red line for democratic voters.

 

[Iker Quesadillas]

why is that?

Because Democratic primary voters are too deferential to their own party's structures and media.

 

[VeevaVee]

They voted for Harris who was part of that administration and fully backed Biden policy.



Gaza showed there was no red line for democratic voters.

What a strange response. There are two choices. One is clearly worse than the other. If you don’t want the Nazi one that also wants to flatten Gaza, you have to vote for other one.

 

[TheGame]

It doesn’t matter. He will come out saying he has 95% approval rating and his base will lap it up. The truth does not matter to these people.

 

[TheGame]

Piece of shit. At least someone stood up to him. Embarrassing himself again.

 

[KirkDuyt]

A democratic president/administration spent over a year supplying ammunition and bombs for a genocide where half the population aren’t adults.

Democrats voters have just as low standards
as Republicans.

i mean personal character integrity wise.

I don't mean to say the democrats are some sort of benevolent group. US is fecked in general.

 

[Sweet Square]

What a strange response. There are two choices. One is clearly worse than the other. If you don’t want the Nazi one that also wants to flatten Gaza, you have to vote for other one.

Tbh I’ve done to death the fascism debate(Democrats tend to throw that word around without thinking and as way to defend the actions of politicians on their side).

But anyway at least you seem to agree there is no red line for democratic voters.

 

[WI_Red]

Tbh I’ve done to death the fascism debate(Democrats tend to throw that word around without thinking and as way to defend the actions of politicians on their side).

But anyway at least you seem to agree there is no red line for democratic voters.

So you are cool with everything that is going on. Nice to know.

 

[Frosty]

Piece of shit. At least someone stood up to him. Embarrassing himself again.

"If the President attempts to unilaterally deprive Maine school children of the benefit of Federal funding, my Administration and the Attorney General will take all appropriate and necessary legal action to restore that funding and the academic opportunity it provides. The State of Maine will not be intimidated by the President's threats."

Governor Mills' Statement on President's Threat to Withhold Education Funding from Maine

https://www.maine.gov/governor/mill...t-withhold-education-funding-maine-2025-02-21

 

[Sweet Square]

So you are cool with everything that is going on. Nice to know.

You might want to read that post again.

 

[WI_Red]

You might want to read that post again.

You condemned people for voting for Harris, the only other option besides Trump. Your words imply that voting for Harris was the immoral thing, and therefore the moral thing would be to not vote. Following this logic would lead to a single outcome, Trump winning, therefore that would be your preferred outcome. Right? If not, then please explain what magic alternative us voters should have considered.

 

[maniak]

You condemned people for voting for Harris, the only other option besides Trump. Your words imply that voting for Harris was the immoral thing, and therefore the moral thing would be to not vote. Following this logic would lead to a single outcome, Trump winning, therefore that would be your preferred outcome. Right? If not, then please explain what magic alternative us voters should have considered.

You're really going to die on this strange hill... bizarre.

 

[WI_Red]

You're really going to die on this strange hill... bizarre.

And you are going to continue to claim we had some magical alternative to Harris on 11/4/24 (or 4/11/24 for non-Americans)

edited for date.

 

[maniak]

And you are going to continue to claim we had some magical alternative to Harris on 11/4/25.

The thing is... I never did that.

 

[nimic]

Can we move past the Harris debate, or move it to another thread?

 

[Semper Fudge]

And you are going to continue to claim we had some magical alternative to Harris on 11/4/25.

11th April 2025?

 

[Red in STL]

11th April 2025?

Americans like to be different

 

[Morty_]

Piece of shit. At least someone stood up to him. Embarrassing himself again.

Problem is, most people think this sort of behavior is fine now, so what can you really do, when they agree with him.

 

[golden_blunder]

Piece of shit. At least someone stood up to him. Embarrassing himself again.

What a bully