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Yeah I don’t think he’s lying about wanting to do the division 5 challenge and his squad will be more fun to draft then mine.
Anyone who did vote for me genuine thanks I really wanted the job until Rav mentioned he wanted to Div 5.
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@Damien out of interest what were the current votes at?
Okay then, congrats @Ravelation. The job is yours
They were tied with Herrera the only one left to vote but he hadn't been on in a few days. Easily the closest vote in the history of the league.
That was a bonkers vote btw! Cannot believe it was tied.
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Wow did not think for one second I’d get more than a few votes. Thanks guys genuinely touched by that.
We offering Darlington to another manager or drafting?
It’s a decent club for someone newer to take on and would be a shame to draft it.
Yeah it'll be likely going to someone within the league. Once Rav goes to Arsenal we'll start the process all over again with Darlington.
Jesus that's incredibly close, the fact it came down to the last one, not going to lie I kinda expected benito to win this one..
Thanks benito and yeah 3 and a half seasons then div 5 is the plan
Also thanks to everyone that voted, and good luck to whoever takes Darlington, it honestly hurts to leave Darlington and all those gems.
Thanks benito and yeah 3 and a half seasons then div 5 is the plan
Also thanks to everyone that voted, and good luck to whoever takes Darlington, it honestly hurts to leave Darlington and all those gems.
Congratulations Rav. Good luck with your title push
Anyone interested in managing Darlington has until Tuesday 8pm to message me including a bit of text saying why they want it in case of multiple applicants. Darlington's bank balance is approx £20M
Breakdown of the 40-man shortlist for Golden Boy
Hereford (4): Mohamed Ali Cho (17/75), Eric Garcia (20/85), Noni Madueke (19/85), Khephren Thuram (20/82)
Nottingham Forest (4): Karim Adeyemi (19/82), Myron Boadu (20/87), Eduardo Camavinga (18/88), Ilaix Moriba (18/82)
Barnsley (3): Goncalo Ramos (20/78), Gabriel Martinelli (20/83), Yeremi Pino (18/84)
Manchester United (3): Jude Bellingham (18/88), Pedri Gonzalez (18/89), Giovanni Reyna (18/87)
Middlesbrough (3): Chico Conceicao (18/78), Charles de Ketelaere (20/85), Jeremy Doku (19/86)
Aston Villa (2): Mason Greenwood (19/88), Florian Wirtz (18/87)
Fulham (2): Jamal Musiala (18/85), Roberto Piccoli (20/80)
Leeds United (2): Odilon Kossounou (20/85), Nuno Mendes (19/86)
Leyton Orient (2): Brian Brobbey (19/82), Josko Gvardiol (19/83)
Southend United (2): Ryan Gravenberch (19/87), Jurrien Timber (20/85)
Arsenal (1): Mohamed Ihattaren (19/85)
Bournemouth (1): Ersin Destanoglu (20/83)
Cardiff City (1): Illya Zabarnyi (19/80)
Chelsea (1): Bukayo Saka (20/89)
Gillingham (1): Martin Satriano (20/70)
Kidderminster Harriers (1): William Saliba (20/85)
Liverpool (1): Rayan Ait-Nouri (20/83)
Manchester City (1): Rayan Cherki (18/83)
Milton Keynes Dons (1): Luke Thomas (20/83)
Newcastle United (1): Ander Barrenetxea (19/86)
Wolverhampton Wanderers (1): Bryan Gil (20/87)
Hereford (4): Mohamed Ali Cho (17/75), Eric Garcia (20/85), Noni Madueke (19/85), Khephren Thuram (20/82)
Nottingham Forest (4): Karim Adeyemi (19/82), Myron Boadu (20/87), Eduardo Camavinga (18/88), Ilaix Moriba (18/82)
Barnsley (3): Goncalo Ramos (20/78), Gabriel Martinelli (20/83), Yeremi Pino (18/84)
Manchester United (3): Jude Bellingham (18/88), Pedri Gonzalez (18/89), Giovanni Reyna (18/87)
Middlesbrough (3): Chico Conceicao (18/78), Charles de Ketelaere (20/85), Jeremy Doku (19/86)
Aston Villa (2): Mason Greenwood (19/88), Florian Wirtz (18/87)
Fulham (2): Jamal Musiala (18/85), Roberto Piccoli (20/80)
Leeds United (2): Odilon Kossounou (20/85), Nuno Mendes (19/86)
Leyton Orient (2): Brian Brobbey (19/82), Josko Gvardiol (19/83)
Southend United (2): Ryan Gravenberch (19/87), Jurrien Timber (20/85)
Arsenal (1): Mohamed Ihattaren (19/85)
Bournemouth (1): Ersin Destanoglu (20/83)
Cardiff City (1): Illya Zabarnyi (19/80)
Chelsea (1): Bukayo Saka (20/89)
Gillingham (1): Martin Satriano (20/70)
Kidderminster Harriers (1): William Saliba (20/85)
Liverpool (1): Rayan Ait-Nouri (20/83)
Manchester City (1): Rayan Cherki (18/83)
Milton Keynes Dons (1): Luke Thomas (20/83)
Newcastle United (1): Ander Barrenetxea (19/86)
Wolverhampton Wanderers (1): Bryan Gil (20/87)
@Mani is the new Darlington manager. Nobody within the league applied and they messaged me registering their interest a few days ago so gave it to them.
@coolredwine is the new Norwich City manager.
Welcome @Mani and @coolredwine
Let the promotion fight begin
Semi finals of Cup and Shield (major honours in brackets)
Cup
(0) Bristol City v Sunderland (4)
(3) Newcastle United v Southend United (0)
Shield
(7) Arsenal v Nottingham Forest (9)
(0) Gillingham v Middlesbrough (1)
Cup
(0) Bristol City v Sunderland (4)
(3) Newcastle United v Southend United (0)
Shield
(7) Arsenal v Nottingham Forest (9)
(0) Gillingham v Middlesbrough (1)
See! All those suspensions of late, and I'm literally the only manager who doesn't benefit from sendings off. Everyone else has a player sent off and wins by a goal or two, I have a player sent off and always either lose or draw.
@Damien Youth table and others?
I'm aiming to put it up tomorrow. Taking a bit longer with the various managerial changes and me last updating a few months back. The earliest October player turning 22 doesn't happen until the 6th
It will 100% be posted later today. There is 0.2 separating the top three
FFP and Youth Table October 2021
FFP Status (5 October 2021)
Div 1
October 2021 Youth Table
Formula
Age: 21yrs = 0pts; 20yrs = 0.3pts; 19yrs = 0.6pts ...
Rating: 82 = 1pts; 83 = 1.5pts; 84 = 2pts ...
And add them up
Players turning 22 in October
Youngest managed players rated 82+
Top 10 youth players by points
A full breakdown of the youth table can be viewed HERE.
Div 1
- Tottenham Hotspur - 41/42
- Manchester United - 43/45
- Arsenal - 48/48
- West Ham United - 45/48
- Liverpool - 50/50
- Sunderland - 47/51
- Aston Villa - 52/52
- Bournemouth - 50/52
- Cardiff City - 50/52
- Chelsea - 50/52
- Darlington - 51/52
- Everton - 52/52
- Fulham - 50/52
- Middlesbrough - 51/52
- Nottingham Forest - 52/52
- Southampton - 50/52
- Southend United - 52/52
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - 52/52
- Leyton Orient - 55/58
- Manchester City - 36/51
- Newcastle United - 51/52
- Barnsley - 50/54
- Blackburn Rovers - 48/54
- Milton Keynes Dons - 47/54
- Norwich City - 38/54
- Bristol City - 49/55
- Leeds United - 54/55
- Hereford - 56/56
- Charlton Athletic - 49/58
- Preston North End - 30/58
- Kidderminster Harriers - 54/60
- Gillingham - 42/60
October 2021 Youth Table
| Position | Team | Points | # of Players |
|---|---|---|---|
1 | Hereford | 38.4 | 15 |
2 | Southend United | 38.3 | 14 |
3 | Nottingham Forest | 38.2 | 15 |
4 | Fulham | 36.7 | 17 |
5 | Wolverhampton Wanderers | 31 | 13 |
6 | Manchester United | 30.2 | 8 |
7 | Aston Villa | 29.2 | 11 |
8 | Sunderland | 28.4 | 10 |
9 | Middlesbrough | 27.7 | 12 |
10 | Newcastle United | 26.9 | 13 |
11 | Kidderminster Harriers | 24.6 | 12 |
12 | Barnsley | 20.8 | 10 |
13 | Arsenal | 19.3 | 8 |
14 | Manchester City | 17 | 6 |
15 | Leyton Orient | 15.6 | 8 |
16 | Leeds United | 14.2 | 7 |
17 | Cardiff City | 13.8 | 5 |
18 | Chelsea | 12.7 | 4 |
19 | Everton | 11 | 5 |
20 | Bristol City | 10.7 | 7 |
= | Tottenham Hotspur | 10.7 | 4 |
22 | Liverpool | 10.6 | 7 |
23 | Darlington | 10.2 | 6 |
24 | Norwich City | 10.1 | 5 |
25 | Blackburn Rovers | 8.7 | 6 |
26 | Charlton Athletic | 7.6 | 3 |
27 | Bournemouth | 7.1 | 5 |
28 | West Ham United | 6.8 | 5 |
29 | Milton Keynes Dons | 5.9 | 4 |
30 | Southampton | 4.9 | 3 |
31 | Gillingham | 1 | 1 |
32 | Preston North End | 0 | 0 |
Formula
Age: 21yrs = 0pts; 20yrs = 0.3pts; 19yrs = 0.6pts ...
Rating: 82 = 1pts; 83 = 1.5pts; 84 = 2pts ...
And add them up
Players turning 22 in October
| Team | Player | Rating | Birthday | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Everton | Anderson Niangbo | 82 | 6th | 1 |
Aston Villa | Jens Petter Hauge | 85 | 12th | 2.5 |
Arsenal | Maxime Busi | 82 | 14th | 1 |
Bristol City | Matteo Gabbia | 83 | 21st | 1.5 |
Newcastle United | Albert Sambi Lokonga | 86 | 22nd | 3 |
Youngest managed players rated 82+
| Rank | Team | Player | DOB | Age | Rating | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Manchester City | Rayan Cherki | 17 Aug 2003 | 18 | 83 | 2.4 |
2 | Nottingham Forest | Lucas Gourna-Douath | 5 Aug 2003 | 18 | 82 | 1.9 |
3 | Manchester United | Jude Bellingham | 29 Jun 2003 | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
4 | Kidderminster Harriers | Yusuf Demir | 2 Jun 2003 | 18 | 82 | 1.9 |
5 | Aston Villa | Florian Wirtz | 3 May 2003 | 18 | 87 | 4.4 |
6 | Barnsley | Harvey Elliott | 4 Apr 2003 | 18 | 82 | 1.9 |
7 | Fulham | Jamal Musiala | 26 Feb 2003 | 18 | 85 | 3.4 |
8 | Nottingham Forest | Ilaix Moriba | 19 Jan 2003 | 18 | 82 | 1.9 |
9 | Aston Villa | Devyne Rensch | 18 Jan 2003 | 18 | 82 | 1.9 |
10 | Tottenham Hotspur | Yunus Musah | 29 Nov 2002 | 18 | 83 | 2.4 |
Top 10 youth players by points
| Rank | Team | Player | Age | Rating | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Hereford | Erling Braut Haland | 21 | 93 | 6.5 |
2 | Manchester United | Jadon Sancho | 21 | 92 | 6 |
3 | Southend United | Alphonso Davies | 20 | 91 | 5.8 |
4 | Tottenham Hotspur | Joao Felix | 21 | 91 | 5.5 |
5 | Manchester United | Pedri Gonzalez | 18 | 89 | 5.4 |
6 | Sunderland | Reece James | 21 | 90 | 5 |
= | Chelsea | Ferran Torres | 21 | 90 | 5 |
= | Aston Villa | Phil Foden | 21 | 90 | 5 |
9 | Nottingham Forest | Ansu Fati | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
= | Nottingham Forest | Eduardo Camavinga | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
= | Manchester United | Jude Bellingham | 18 | 88 | 4.9 |
A full breakdown of the youth table can be viewed HERE.
0.2 between 1st and 3rd. Dammmmn!
Close as they come.
Are there earlier versions of this document? Just curious to see where Leeds was for the past 1-2 iterations.
Full document? No. But there are threadmarks with the tables going back to July last year, and all the way back to 2018 for simplified version with just the one table.
Got it, thanks!
Finals of Cup and Shield (major honours in brackets)
Cup
(0) Southend United v Sunderland (4)
Shield
(7) Arsenal v Middlesbrough (1)
Cup
(0) Southend United v Sunderland (4)
Shield
(7) Arsenal v Middlesbrough (1)
You're welcome.
Again, thank you so much. You were spot on with both him and Sesko.
The Division 2 automatic promotion race
Unmanaged teams facing in last 9 games:
Kidderminster - 3
Hereford - 4
Newcastle - 2
Gillingham - 4
H2Hs left:
MD30: Kidderminster v Gillingham
MD33: Hereford v Kidderminster
MD38: Gillingham v Hereford
Newcastle have the fewest unmanaged games left but they also have no head to heads left whereas the others have two.
If I were to wager, I'd say @CrackersJr will finish top with the other automatic coming down to head to heads.
Unmanaged teams facing in last 9 games:
Kidderminster - 3
Hereford - 4
Newcastle - 2
Gillingham - 4
H2Hs left:
MD30: Kidderminster v Gillingham
MD33: Hereford v Kidderminster
MD38: Gillingham v Hereford
Newcastle have the fewest unmanaged games left but they also have no head to heads left whereas the others have two.
If I were to wager, I'd say @CrackersJr will finish top with the other automatic coming down to head to heads.
Record tables
Records Everton are chasing this season with 9 games to go:
Goals Scored - currently on 67, need 15 more to make the top 10 and just 44 more to set a league record
Goals Conceded - currently on 20, need to concede 13 or less to make the top 10 and just need to concede 9 or less to set a league record (VERY likely)
Wins - currently on 22, need to win 4 more to make the top 10 and win all 9 to be joint first
Losses - currently on 2, need to lose 3 or less to make the top 10 and not lose any at all to set a league record
Points - currently on 71, need 14 more to make the top 10 and just 26 to set a league record
Goal Difference - currently on 47, need to keep it at 45+ to make the top 10 and just 30 more to set a league record
Records Everton are chasing this season with 9 games to go:
Goals Scored - currently on 67, need 15 more to make the top 10 and just 44 more to set a league record
Goals Conceded - currently on 20, need to concede 13 or less to make the top 10 and just need to concede 9 or less to set a league record (VERY likely)
Wins - currently on 22, need to win 4 more to make the top 10 and win all 9 to be joint first
Losses - currently on 2, need to lose 3 or less to make the top 10 and not lose any at all to set a league record
Points - currently on 71, need 14 more to make the top 10 and just 26 to set a league record
Goal Difference - currently on 47, need to keep it at 45+ to make the top 10 and just 30 more to set a league record
Interesting. Checked season 18 when i only lost 3. Of course it was MG who won with Darlington that season. He had +5 goal difference on me where we both had 87 points. Thanks for that reminder, DamoRecord tables
Records Everton are chasing this season with 9 games to go:
Goals Scored - currently on 67, need 15 more to make the top 10 and just 44 more to set a league record
Goals Conceded - currently on 20, need to concede 13 or less to make the top 10 and just need to concede 9 or less to set a league record (VERY likely)
Wins - currently on 22, need to win 4 more to make the top 10 and win all 9 to be joint first
Losses - currently on 2, need to lose 3 or less to make the top 10 and not lose any at all to set a league record
Points - currently on 71, need 14 more to make the top 10 and just 26 to set a league record
Goal Difference - currently on 47, need to keep it at 45+ to make the top 10 and just 30 more to set a league record
Interesting. Checked season 18 when i only lost 3. Of course it was MG who won with Darlington that season. He had +5 goal difference on me where we both had 87 points. Thanks for that reminder, Damo
MG's consistency is disgustinghttps://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2021/10/08/61607e39268e3e742d8b461a.html
The 2021 Kopa Trophy Nominees
Aston Villa - 2 (Greenwood, Wirtz)
Chelsea - 1 (Saka)
Fulham - 1 (Musiala)
Leeds United - 1 (Mendes)
Middlesbrough - 1 (Doku)
Southend United - 1 (Gravenberch)
The 2021 Kopa Trophy Nominees
- Mason Greenwood (Manchester United/England)
- Bukayo Saka (Arsenal/England)
- Pedri (Barcelona/Spain)
- Jeremy Doku (Rennes/Belgium)
- Ryan Gravenberch (Ajax/Netherlands)
- Jamal Musiala (Bayern Munich/Germany)
- Florian Wirtz (Bayer Leverkusen/Germany)
- Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund/England)
- Giovanni Reyna (Borussia Dortmund/USA)
- Nuno Mendes (Paris Saint-Germain/Portugal)
Aston Villa - 2 (Greenwood, Wirtz)
Chelsea - 1 (Saka)
Fulham - 1 (Musiala)
Leeds United - 1 (Mendes)
Middlesbrough - 1 (Doku)
Southend United - 1 (Gravenberch)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/ame...on-final-golden-boy-2021-shortlist/ar-AAPzgsJ
The final 2021 Golden Boy nominees
Fulham - 3 (Maldini, Musiala, Piccoli)
Manchester United - 3 (Bellingham, Pedri, Reyna)
Nottingham Forest - 2 (Adeyemi, Camavinga)
Southend United - 2 (Gravenberch, Timber)
Barnsley - 1 (Pino)
Chelsea - 1 (Saka)
Kidderminster Harriers - 1 (Saliba)
Leeds United - 1 (Mendes)
Manchester City - 1 (Rodrygo)
Middlesbrough - 1 (De Ketelaere)
Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1 (Gil)
The final 2021 Golden Boy nominees
- Karim Adeyemi (RB Salzburg/Germany)
- Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund/England)
- Eduardo Camavinga (Real Madrid/France)
- Charles De Ketelaere (Club Brugge/Belgium)
- Gavi (Barcelona/Spain)
- Bryan Gil (Tottenham/Spain)
- Ryan Gravenberch (Ajax/Netherlands)
- Mason Greenwood (Manchester United/England)
- Daniel Maldini (AC Milan/Italy)
- Jamal Musiala (Bayern Munich/Germany)
- Nuno Mendes (PSG/Portugal)
- Pedri (Barcelona/Spain)
- Roberto Piccoli (Atalanta/Italy)
- Yeremy Pino (Villarreal/Spain)
- Giovanni Reyna (Borussia Dortmund/USA)
- Rodrygo Goes (Real Madrid/Brazil)
- Bukayo Saka (Arsenal/England)
- William Saliba (Marseille/France)
- Jurrien Timber (Ajax/Netherlands)
- Florian Wirtz (Bayer Leverkusen/Germany)
Fulham - 3 (Maldini, Musiala, Piccoli)
Manchester United - 3 (Bellingham, Pedri, Reyna)
Nottingham Forest - 2 (Adeyemi, Camavinga)
Southend United - 2 (Gravenberch, Timber)
Barnsley - 1 (Pino)
Chelsea - 1 (Saka)
Kidderminster Harriers - 1 (Saliba)
Leeds United - 1 (Mendes)
Manchester City - 1 (Rodrygo)
Middlesbrough - 1 (De Ketelaere)
Wolverhampton Wanderers - 1 (Gil)
whats maldini and piccoli done? l0l
Southend United joins the "one major trophy which is the Cup" club which now has eight members.
And a new table for something that MG can't break until late 2022/early 2023 at the earliest - Consecutive trophy winning streaks
Purple = run ongoing. If I don't win the Champions Cup this season (spoiler: I won't) my run ends. Still annoyed about that Super Cup result.
And a new table for something that MG can't break until late 2022/early 2023 at the earliest - Consecutive trophy winning streaks
Purple = run ongoing. If I don't win the Champions Cup this season (spoiler: I won't) my run ends. Still annoyed about that Super Cup result.
Trophies won by United (@Damien) during
(1) the first six seasons of the 8-17 run
Division 1 (2): S8, S11
League Cup (3): S8, S11, S13
League Shield (1): S9
SMFA Champions Cup (3): S10, S11, S13
SMFA Shield (1): S8
Charity Shield (2): S9, S12
SMFA Super Cup (2): S9, S11
Total: 14
(2) the whole of the 8-17 run
Division 1 (3): S8, S11, S14
League Cup (3): S8, S11, S13
League Shield (1): S9
SMFA Champions Cup (5): S10, S11, S13, S15, S16
SMFA Shield (1): S8
Charity Shield (3): S9, S12, S15
SMFA Super Cup (5): S9, S11, S14, S16, S17
Total: 21
Trophies Everton (@The Stain (S19), @Dom Gill (S20-S21) and @Mciahel Goodman (S22 onwards)) have won so far during the ongoing 19-24 run (MG trophies in bold)
Division 1 (2): S22, S23
League Cup (1): S19
SMFA Champions Cup (1): S20
Charity Shield (3): S20, S23, S24
SMFA Super Cup (1): S21
Total: 7
Will be a surprise if MG doesn't make it eight with three consecutive league titles.