The Seven Leading Candidates To Be Old Trafford's Next Number 7 /From Goal.com/
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Seriously I know only 2 players from that list... 
I agree.
He will be fine. Small men than him are stars over here. Just look at the Park's, Defoe's, Lennon's, Fabregas' and Mordic's.
You wish Ekeke. My appreciation of his talent is not remotely unexplainable. Anyone watching him can see why. It's your underrating and misrepresenting of it that is.
You don't need to know some one personally to be biased against him. I don't know Defoe for example. But I can assure you I'm very biased when it comes to him. So? 10 others Spaniards didn't play on the wing did they? You love to claim he isn't that good on the flank and is better playing ala Berbatov. When he was excellent in a great side that won a major international trophy whilst on a flank. & is set to be still shining in that same role come the world cup. Spare me your lame logic Ekeke.
I've watched Silva since he was in youth football and haven't stopped. He is versatile enough like an Iniesta to be a bonafide star in any midfield role on the left. Be it behind a forward, on the flank or in center midfield. It's only you who has this inane idea he can't be a star for a team like United unless they use him in the center like Valencia do now.
Simply because you've never grasped the concept of Valencia managers using all their best players in the same team. That is why there is no point for any of them to place a Silva on the wing when they can have a Mata/Vicente there, when they can also place a Silva in the same team, behind a Villa.
Silva has proven himself on the wing enough times for both club and country to render you claims embarrassing. But you are incapable of ever letting such things get in the way of you never admitting you are wrong about him.
Exactly. I mean the lad shines for Spain on the flanks, yet Ekeke swears he is not that good there and is better in a Berbatov role. On top of claiming the lad isn't ready for a big side.
Let's not get too ahead boys, Silva's role in Valencia is the supporting striker role, but that doesn't mean he has quality on the LW cause he used to play their regularly. Just when Valencia stopped using 2 forwards, Zigiz/Villa or what every poor guy they used, Silva was there and he and Villa played really well together and as Mata stepped up from their youth, their was no big deal for Silva to be playing there. You can watch him and you can certainly see the quality, if not, rewind your memories around 3-4 years ago and watch the Valencia Vs. Chelsea match. He was superb in both legs. Even though they lost he really stood out. I was sure he played LW wing then, so why can't he do it for us ?
To sum it up I'm no fan boy but when I see quality, I see quality. Its not the WOWWW Liam Miller the New Roy Keane, or Wow Bruno Cheyru the New Zidane etc.
To sum it up I'm no fan boy but when I see quality, I see quality. Its not the WOWWW Liam Miller the New Roy Keane, or Wow Bruno Cheyru the New Zidane etc.
dont think we will be signing a winger now that nani has been given a new deal ..
nani , valencia , park , giggs , obertan/tosic/cleverley ????
we already have smalling joining
we might not sign any big name for next season .
mass suicide if that happens
nani , valencia , park , giggs , obertan/tosic/cleverley ????
we already have smalling joining
we might not sign any big name for next season .
mass suicide if that happens
A jornalistic piece full of contradictions.
A few thoughts....
1. It's just a number and lots of people seem to get hung up on that. Fergie gave Owen the 7 jersey because it was available. There have been lots of players to wear certain numbers that would not fall into the legendary class so it's no different with the No. 7. There was football before 1993/94!
2. In the football world No. 11 is worn by the left winger and No 7 by the right winger but the journalist talks about Giggs retiring and getting someone to replace him on the left. Theoretically, that would mean if we bought someone like Silva he would get the number 11. Theoretically, when Owen leaves the No. 7 would go to Valencia or Nani.
3. Fergie will decide who to buy....when to buy them....and what shirt they will wear. The journalist should have referred to Giggs replacement as the theme for the article and would have been much more credible.
As other posters have pointed out....muppet journalism!
A few thoughts....
1. It's just a number and lots of people seem to get hung up on that. Fergie gave Owen the 7 jersey because it was available. There have been lots of players to wear certain numbers that would not fall into the legendary class so it's no different with the No. 7. There was football before 1993/94!
2. In the football world No. 11 is worn by the left winger and No 7 by the right winger but the journalist talks about Giggs retiring and getting someone to replace him on the left. Theoretically, that would mean if we bought someone like Silva he would get the number 11. Theoretically, when Owen leaves the No. 7 would go to Valencia or Nani.
3. Fergie will decide who to buy....when to buy them....and what shirt they will wear. The journalist should have referred to Giggs replacement as the theme for the article and would have been much more credible.
As other posters have pointed out....muppet journalism!
I think he is "THAT" good. Not saying he's what we need. His passing is more akin to Scholes than it is to Carrick, and very incisive. I guess Carrick is better at defending.
Only compare them to Scholes and Carrick because Silva is NOT a left-winger. He plays just behind the front all across the pitch and makes runs into the box as well.
Could play him in front of Carrick and Fletcher in a 3-man midfield. I suspect that the one-up-front situation will continue as long as Fergie is in charge, as it stops opponents cutting straight through the midfield.
Rambling aside, I'd like to see Silva at OT.
To accommodate our best dribbler on his favoured side and create a centre midfield with more pace than a 4x400m relay team.
Silva only ever became Valencia's first choice left winger because Vicente had horrible injury troubles and would have long spells on the sidelines for a couple of seasons.
Vicente used to be one of Valencia's 2 or 3 most important players - Silva wouldnt have broken through and displaced him. But after he came back from his loan with Celta, the position was open because of Vicente's inability to stay fit and so he became Valencia's first choice on the left as he developed.
Then Mata signed from Madrid, played one season as a backup and as a partner up front at times for Villa and then he took that left wing role and Silva took the second striker/hole role next to David Villa. Since then Silva has played a handful of games on the left. A few on the right.
If David Silva's best position was left wing, he'd play left wing. He doesnt. And when he has done he's been no more than decent. His future is in the middle of the pitch as has been his recent past of the past 2 seasons.
Spain dont play with "wingers" they have Iniesta and Silva coming into the middle and they receive their width from their fullbacks, Capdevila who used to be a winger himself but now plays from left back. And Ramos bombs on down the right. Spain's midfield is very different from most other midfields of course. Even so Silva is often on the right side and Iniesta is often on the left side like he is with Barcelona when he plays left wing.
Chances are if Spain didnt have David Villa and Fernando Torres to play up front, Silva would get the chance to play in the hole behind Villa a lot more often. They just happen to have 2 of the best 3 strikers in the world and Silva isn't good enough to compete with them just yet. Particularly as he doesnt score enough goals - although weirdly enough while he fluffs good chance after good chance for Valencia, he has finished good goal after good goal in his last 4 or 5 matches for Spain.
Vicente used to be one of Valencia's 2 or 3 most important players - Silva wouldnt have broken through and displaced him. But after he came back from his loan with Celta, the position was open because of Vicente's inability to stay fit and so he became Valencia's first choice on the left as he developed.
Then Mata signed from Madrid, played one season as a backup and as a partner up front at times for Villa and then he took that left wing role and Silva took the second striker/hole role next to David Villa. Since then Silva has played a handful of games on the left. A few on the right.
If David Silva's best position was left wing, he'd play left wing. He doesnt. And when he has done he's been no more than decent. His future is in the middle of the pitch as has been his recent past of the past 2 seasons.
Spain dont play with "wingers" they have Iniesta and Silva coming into the middle and they receive their width from their fullbacks, Capdevila who used to be a winger himself but now plays from left back. And Ramos bombs on down the right. Spain's midfield is very different from most other midfields of course. Even so Silva is often on the right side and Iniesta is often on the left side like he is with Barcelona when he plays left wing.
Chances are if Spain didnt have David Villa and Fernando Torres to play up front, Silva would get the chance to play in the hole behind Villa a lot more often. They just happen to have 2 of the best 3 strikers in the world and Silva isn't good enough to compete with them just yet. Particularly as he doesnt score enough goals - although weirdly enough while he fluffs good chance after good chance for Valencia, he has finished good goal after good goal in his last 4 or 5 matches for Spain.
Going by that dreadful logic when Ronaldo was here and Rooney was shifted left, it's becasue Rooney wasn't a striker Silva doesn't play left wing for Villa because he can comfortably play else where and let Valencia also field Mata. It's that simple. It has feck all to do with ''the best position'' of Silva. If anything Mata was shifted from the center because Silva was superior to him in that role. Not because Silva couldn't cut it out on the left. There was no point in them insisting on having Silva down the left and losing the chance to have Mata in the first 11, in a role he functions better in.
Rooney wasnt playing left wing as our first choice was he? He wasnt playing left wing game after game for over 2 seasons.
Silva is played in the middle as first choice. Valencia will pick him to play in the position to get the most from him, same with David Villa. Since they are Valencia's two 'best players'. You build your team around them. Valencia arent fitting in Silva just so they can also play Mata. They have other good players who dont get to play.
Silva is played in the middle as first choice. Valencia will pick him to play in the position to get the most from him, same with David Villa. Since they are Valencia's two 'best players'. You build your team around them. Valencia arent fitting in Silva just so they can also play Mata. They have other good players who dont get to play.
He was for big games. Since Ronaldo was used down the middle being the superior player.
Because they don't have anyone better there. If someone superior to him was there, Silva would be on the left benching Mata. Because he is the better player. Period.
You don't get it do you. It's Mata being fitted in not Silva. Silva is comfortable out wide or centrally. Mata isn't.
Oh dear, rather than admit that Rooney has just improved his game as a striker in the absence of Tévez and Ronaldo, people have retconned the past to imply he played leftwing in every game and that he was always this good but was being held back by Ronaldo.
It was only a handful of games at best mostly in Europe. He played far more games on the left when Ruud Van Nistellrooy was here, but since then he's had to be the main striker, with Saha or Tévez alongside him or with Berbatov deeper. Talk about the main games all you want, but the vast majority of games Rooney was upfront and Ronaldo on the wings.
It's like saying Kanchelskis was upfront when he was outscoring Hughes and Cantona. It's like saying Hughes and Cantona were wingers.
Maybe it was just Ronaldo was greedier and more clinical in front of goal and took a hell of a lot of the setpieces and penalties.
Wrong. Rooney got shifted wide for Ronaldo because Ronaldo was simply a better player than him. Like wise Silva plays in the middle because he is better there than Mata is and is the better player. Not because he is worse than Mata out wide. It has little to do with what Rooney could do couldn't do at the time in his own right.
You dont half talk some rubbish chief. If Mata was causing Silva to not play in his best position, Valencia would have sold him to get some money in and replaced him with a second striker. They arent in a position to keep players they dont need. And yet they have a striker they paid 20 million euros for sitting on the bench. Guess that also shits on your theory that Silva only plays in the hole/second striker because he's a better option there than Mata. There are other good players at Valencia, they dont have to put squares in round holes. The team is built around David Villa and David Silva. David Silva is playing his best position. Just because he's left footed doesnt mean he has to play left wing. And it doesnt mean he's not a good penalty taker either.
I think the summer transfers depends on Hargreaves proving his fitness in the remainder of the campaign, Nani continuing his good form and Berbatov.
If Hargreaves is fine then likely no central midfielder as Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves, Scholes and Park can give more than enough and Cleverly may well be more involved with us. There are plenty of options there for a 3 man and 2 man midfield.
If Nani keeps his form up then no need for a left winger although I suspect someone like Joe Cole on a free is the type of player Fergie may be interested in. I like the look of Di Maria personally but that would push someone out, who?
Berbatov, have no idea, one week i love him, next I'm pulling my hair out. There have been reports of David Villa coming, I'm not sure. Macheda, Berbatov, Rooney and Diouf is plenty when we play a lot with 3 centre mids.
???? It's Fergie, I HAVE NO CLUE!
If Hargreaves is fine then likely no central midfielder as Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves, Scholes and Park can give more than enough and Cleverly may well be more involved with us. There are plenty of options there for a 3 man and 2 man midfield.
If Nani keeps his form up then no need for a left winger although I suspect someone like Joe Cole on a free is the type of player Fergie may be interested in. I like the look of Di Maria personally but that would push someone out, who?
Berbatov, have no idea, one week i love him, next I'm pulling my hair out. There have been reports of David Villa coming, I'm not sure. Macheda, Berbatov, Rooney and Diouf is plenty when we play a lot with 3 centre mids.
???? It's Fergie, I HAVE NO CLUE!
That's another great addition to your feck witted logicI haven't said any where that Silva best position is left wing. Rather I've said he is as good out wide as he is else where. I've also said clearly he IS a better player than Mata. In any position, PERIOD! He doesn't play out on the left for Valencia simply because he can play in the middle just as well as he can out wide, thus allowing Mata to be used in the position Mata plays, which is on the left. Which benefits Valencia two fold because it allows them to use 2 of their best players in the same side. It shouldn't be that fecking hard to grasp. Unless you are a feck wit like yourself ofcourse.
Seriously are you really this dumb? Or do you just act stupid for the feck of it?What the heck does some other git who cost 20 million sitting on the bench have to do with Silva sending a Mata to the left flank?
Another post full of your gems of stupidity.
1) David Silva is excellent on the flank. It's only you too fecking stupid to notice. He only switched positions with Mata because a) Mata was miles worse than him in the middle b) Teams build their sides around their best players. If Mata and Silva were in a straight fight for the same position Mata would never win. EVER! Sadly you're too dumb to grasp something that simple and obvious.
In your dumb mind Silva moved in because he is an ''inferior winger to Mata'' and ''best used in the middle and nothing special out wide''
In all honesty feck wit is too kinda word to use on you.
2) Only a stone called dumb feck like you could imagine that bollocks about left footed penalty takers. I also fully expect a typically stupid attempt from you to claim I've ever said it.
I do think Silva's better in behind the striker, like pretty much any creative passer because it comes with so much freedom, but I still think he'd fit in the slightly withdrawn, creative passing Giggsy role we've played for 4 years now.
The next number 7 seems pointless to predict, I mean they aren't going to strip Owen of it.
I'd love Silva though.
I'd love Silva though.
fecking retard fight again.
There was a lad called Nani who seemed to have this spot last time I checked.
Yeah we'll get rid as soon as possible though...
I know this is an old thread but who do you guys think we will sign to make our new number 7?
P.S Completely not related but has anybody been following Vargas? Has he reached the heights of his stellar performances last season?
P.S Completely not related but has anybody been following Vargas? Has he reached the heights of his stellar performances last season?
I maintain that Bale *might* be a possibility.
I fancy one of the current players to take the number 7 shirt.
Valencia or Nani maybe
Valencia or Nani maybe
I reckon Nani will be handed the Number 7 shirt this summer, after a fantastic 12-18 months of football for United
7 should go to Hernandez - he will become as iconic a player as they come is he continues his ride and stays with us for 5+ years.
Nani gets 11 when Sir Riggsy calls it a day. Anyway, he should be content with his no 17.
Nani gets 11 when Sir Riggsy calls it a day. Anyway, he should be content with his no 17.
Noooo!! 14 suits hernandez perfectly. He will as you say become a legend and will make the 14 an iconic number just like ole made 20 a legendary number and scholes has done a similar thing with number 18
It already is for me:
I hope Chicharito sticks with it too. It's not had that good a history since Andrei.
Owen next season. After that, who knows. He didn't hand it off to Nani so I don't see him getting it this time around and don't seem him too fussed about it.
I think the whole numbers game is more important to us than it is to most. Rooney is the only one that comes to mind who asked for a change in number.
I think the whole numbers game is more important to us than it is to most. Rooney is the only one that comes to mind who asked for a change in number.
I would tend to disagree. I'm not saying they fight each other for a number but players do feel more comfortable wearing a particular number. Its a mental thing.
I play football at a low level and even we like to stick to our preferred numbers.
14 is great...but IF Berba were to leave, Pea should get the number 9.
He didn't hand it to Nani last time your right, but at that time Nani had been going through his most backward stage of his United career, compared to now, where he has been enjoying the best football of his whole career. Nani has matured now, and I'm sure Fergie recognises that, he does like to give numbers out carefully to players
The answer is Owen. I don't think he'd want to give it up