Just fancies he’s got him I guess. Not sure who I favour….definitely up for the fight though
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Its weird how they both seem to have inherited their dad's personalities - especially Benn who always seems angry for no apparent reason.
Eubank thinks he's miles better than he is - he doesn't punch anything likes hard as he thinks and in most fights, has rounds where he coasts and can't maintain control. The extra 3lbs he has to lose when he has low body fat anyway is also likely to have an affect. The weight stip has given Benn a chance cos Euabnk might be like a corpse, especially with a rehydration clause after the weigh in too.
They will both make an absolute fortune from this.
Eubank thinks he's miles better than he is - he doesn't punch anything likes hard as he thinks and in most fights, has rounds where he coasts and can't maintain control. The extra 3lbs he has to lose when he has low body fat anyway is also likely to have an affect. The weight stip has given Benn a chance cos Euabnk might be like a corpse, especially with a rehydration clause after the weigh in too.
They will both make an absolute fortune from this.
I haven't watch Benn to be honest. But as G-manc has said, Eubank takes rounds off, I don't think I've seen him on it for a full 12 rounds. If Benn is game and wants it more, he's got more than a chance.
For me this is a money fight that can get arranged much later - particularly for Benn. Needs to be building towards making a name for himself worldwide and the biggest titles.
AJ vs Usyk, more hope than anything that AJ can use his size and strength advantage better this time. Just hug the man every chance you get.
Usyk though is looking like an absolute tank, and with the war in his nation stoking the fire within, he'll be dangerous as ever I reckon.
Usyk though is looking like an absolute tank, and with the war in his nation stoking the fire within, he'll be dangerous as ever I reckon.
This. All the talk was getting Benn in a position to challenge for a title, and now he's moving up 2 weight classes (well, almost) for a payday. It's the sort of desperate move you make at the end of your career, not when you're a 25 year old unbeaten prospect on an upward trajectory.
I can only assume Fast Car Eddie thinks this won't hurt his stock at all if he loses, or he doesn't fancy his chances in a stacked WW division much anyway.
Can't see anything other than a Usyk win again.
AJ has always struggled against smaller opponents, even when they aren't that talented. When you combine Usyk's talents, southpaw approach, being the smaller man and AJ's tendency to try box rather than slugfest now, I can't see AJ winning.
AJ has always struggled against smaller opponents, even when they aren't that talented. When you combine Usyk's talents, southpaw approach, being the smaller man and AJ's tendency to try box rather than slugfest now, I can't see AJ winning.
I love it personally and I don't think we see it enough nowadays, especially with British fighters. I'd much rather Benn take a risk here and fight Eubank than feed him more fighters that clearly aren't on his level just to build his profile, which they quite easily could have done.
Well there's also a 3rd alternative - start putting him with other top 10 welterweights like Avanesyan, Thurman, Ugas, Ortiz, Stanionis, Ennis.
I get why it's happening of course and it's likely a big payday for both, I just think the timing is a bit disappointing when Benn has such great momentum at welterweight at the moment.
(Eubank Jr is also fairly well positioned to get a big fight/title shot at 160 as well)
I'm guessing usyk is going to beat Joshua more comprehensively than the last time, Joshua seems to have bulked up which i don't think is a good idea, he's probably gonna try to knock him out but I think he's overestimating his out knock out capabilities , in short I don't really think he has the tools to win this.
Next stop shouldn't be fury/usyk but if fury's really gonna stick to his promise than I have no problem declaring usyk as the best heavyweight of this generation which is quite funny considering he was a cruiser not long ago.
Next stop shouldn't be fury/usyk but if fury's really gonna stick to his promise than I have no problem declaring usyk as the best heavyweight of this generation which is quite funny considering he was a cruiser not long ago.
Usyk all night long.
Only way AJ wins is if he catches Usyk with a haymaker. Which could happen.
I don't see AJ winning a round if both fighters are still standing at the end of it
Only way AJ wins is if he catches Usyk with a haymaker. Which could happen.
I don't see AJ winning a round if both fighters are still standing at the end of it
Usyk is heavier this fight, so he's bulked up as well.
I was so disappointed with AJ in the last fight. Let's see if he can bring his A game this time. If he doesn't it might be curtains.
Joshua's really got to fight dirty to have a chance, hug him, lean on him, tie him up whenever he gets close, make it a slugfest.
Skill-wise Usyk is different class, and he knows. Never seen a fighter so comfortable in his own skin before a fight - doing tricks for the crowd which shows there's not an ounce of nervousness in his mind, but ominously shows the insane level of speed and coordination he has.
AJ got some shots in last time so Usyk is hittable, in my opinion, to land those heavy shots and unsettle Usyk, AJ just has to accept that he may get knocked out in the process of trying to pin him down. If he gets timid and attempts to fight on the back foot, I reckon he'll have a worse time at it than the first go
Skill-wise Usyk is different class, and he knows. Never seen a fighter so comfortable in his own skin before a fight - doing tricks for the crowd which shows there's not an ounce of nervousness in his mind, but ominously shows the insane level of speed and coordination he has.
AJ got some shots in last time so Usyk is hittable, in my opinion, to land those heavy shots and unsettle Usyk, AJ just has to accept that he may get knocked out in the process of trying to pin him down. If he gets timid and attempts to fight on the back foot, I reckon he'll have a worse time at it than the first go
Joshua is a better boxer than given credit for, but Usyk is just different class. It could be interesting because this is potentially last chance saloon for Joshua, and as we saw against Klitschko, he does have grit and heart. Along with a ferocious uppercut.
I’ve always wanted Joshua to be better than he actually is, because I loved the idea of having a truly dominant Brit be HW world champ. Fury is an excellent champ, but he’s also a shit house of a person, so as much as I admire his skill, I can’t ever take to him as a champ. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed his merciless pounding of an even bigger shit house in Wilder.
I think, hope, this will be a spectacle because Joshua will bring his A game, but my head says Usyk all day long. In the past my heart would be saying, Please Joshua find a way, but my admiration for Usyk has only gone up since he returned to the Ukraine to fight the Russians. A victory for him would please not only my head, but also my heart.
No shade on Joshua, because I do think he’s better than many give him credit for - especially as he’s always been willing to take whatever fights he could and never ducked anyone - but he’s a couple of tiers short of the truly top level, and if he beats Usyk then it will be a real case of overachievement. If he goes out with this fight, I hope he goes out with a roar, rather than a whimper. Last fight he was outboxed on every level. The only way for him to win here is through sheer ferocity and size, which carries its own risks. But if it is the end of the road for him, I hope he makes it such an end, that he can go out with his head held high.
I’ve always wanted Joshua to be better than he actually is, because I loved the idea of having a truly dominant Brit be HW world champ. Fury is an excellent champ, but he’s also a shit house of a person, so as much as I admire his skill, I can’t ever take to him as a champ. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed his merciless pounding of an even bigger shit house in Wilder.
I think, hope, this will be a spectacle because Joshua will bring his A game, but my head says Usyk all day long. In the past my heart would be saying, Please Joshua find a way, but my admiration for Usyk has only gone up since he returned to the Ukraine to fight the Russians. A victory for him would please not only my head, but also my heart.
No shade on Joshua, because I do think he’s better than many give him credit for - especially as he’s always been willing to take whatever fights he could and never ducked anyone - but he’s a couple of tiers short of the truly top level, and if he beats Usyk then it will be a real case of overachievement. If he goes out with this fight, I hope he goes out with a roar, rather than a whimper. Last fight he was outboxed on every level. The only way for him to win here is through sheer ferocity and size, which carries its own risks. But if it is the end of the road for him, I hope he makes it such an end, that he can go out with his head held high.
You had one and his name was Lennox Lewis (unless you consider him Canadian or Jamaican).
Absolutely. I forgot to mention Lewis in my post, but my point was that I always wanted Joshua to be his heir. To continue the legacy. But he’s just not in the same class.
To be fair it's quite hard to be his heir, he's legit top 10 maybe top 5 all timer in the division so a tall task but I get what you mean .
To be honest I never liked aj that much there's just something unnatural and manufactured about him, furry talks a lot of shite but I think calling him stiff describes him well, he never had Much of an amateur pedigree so i guess it makes sense, you could only get so far without top class skill.
He could prove me and everybody who bet against him wrong but the odds are sure stacked against him.
Hopefully we get a memorable night where both man could take pride in what they did in that ring.
Well I was going to post something similar but you’ve just echoed what I was thinking in a very articulate and precise manner.
How is Fury a shit house of a person? Just curious.
He's said some unsavoury things.
Joshua looked rattled after that face off.
To be fair usyk kinda looked psychotic in that cossack outfit of his
Will be going to the fight, I hope it's a more balanced one or someone gets knocked out. AJ needs a different plan to make it competitive. Usyk surely has trained for this but a heavy punch has few answers. The war in Ukraine and Joshua's situation if he loses makes it simmer nicely. Hope it lives up to the hype!
I think Joshua will be allowed every assistance to win.
Usyk better have his KO head on.
Usyk better have his KO head on.
Difficult to see how AJ turns this around for me. If he presses the action and tries to sit down on his punches more he'll arguably gas within 7 or 8 rounds.
I also think he's just not as big a puncher as a lot of the media and such make him out to be. Sure he's got power but he doesn't have that one-punch power to turn people's lights off. Usyk is also tough and has a good chin in additional to being hard to hit clean.
If Usyk uses his superior speed of hand and foot and doesn't get drawn into a battle I forsee a comfortable 8-4/9-3 type win again.
I also think he's just not as big a puncher as a lot of the media and such make him out to be. Sure he's got power but he doesn't have that one-punch power to turn people's lights off. Usyk is also tough and has a good chin in additional to being hard to hit clean.
If Usyk uses his superior speed of hand and foot and doesn't get drawn into a battle I forsee a comfortable 8-4/9-3 type win again.
I think the Joshua that fought Klitschko is the type of Joshua that would potentially overthrow Usyk. Has to have a blatant disregard for his opponents character and credentials. The issue is after Ruiz 1 bout I don't think Joshua has the mindset to get into a war. You cannot box Usyk that's his mantra. Robert Garcia totally changed the outlook of Maidana so maybe he does the same with Anthony who knows but Usyk is favourite.
Anthony Joshua is a pretty weird character for a guy that has been so successful. He's gone from starting boxing at 18, to gold medal, to heavyweight champion of the world.
But the stuff he comes out with, the way he carries himself and talks, and if you read between the lines of what his trainers are saying they they have to pump him up, it seems he suffers a bit of a confidence crisis. Does he really believe he's good enough to beat Usyk?
Hopefully he does. Most fighters are all bluster but will inevitably harbour some doubts. Maybe Anthony is just a little more transparent, but it's kind of strange to witness the turn in his demeanor, particularly since his first loss.
But the stuff he comes out with, the way he carries himself and talks, and if you read between the lines of what his trainers are saying they they have to pump him up, it seems he suffers a bit of a confidence crisis. Does he really believe he's good enough to beat Usyk?
Hopefully he does. Most fighters are all bluster but will inevitably harbour some doubts. Maybe Anthony is just a little more transparent, but it's kind of strange to witness the turn in his demeanor, particularly since his first loss.
AJ needs to go for it flat out in the first 4 rounds. If he does then it's AJ KO in 4 or Usyk KO in 7 in my opinion. Otherwise he tries to box Usyk again and gets beaten worse than before because Usyk has his style down now.
It’ll be an easy night for Usyk over 12 rounds I’m predicting..
I think Wilder would beat Usyk by KO. Wilder is good at closing the gap quickly and Fury managed to neutralizer that by working on the inside and tying him up. On the outside Usyk would be vulnerable to Wilder's straight right and his impressive reach.
The problem with AJ is that ever since Ruiz he is worried about getting hit. He won't be able to apply pressure if he can't take Usyk's limited power. Usyk could KO him this time and I expect a virtual rerun of the first fight with Usyk winning most rounds.
The problem with AJ is that ever since Ruiz he is worried about getting hit. He won't be able to apply pressure if he can't take Usyk's limited power. Usyk could KO him this time and I expect a virtual rerun of the first fight with Usyk winning most rounds.
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Does anyone know what time the ring walk is likely to be?
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The Express says 10.30, so I'll ignore that. Sports Bible says just before 11, are they reliable?
According to Talkshite, who have the exclusive radio commentary:
10.54, gone midnight? They must be at least 2 hours ahead then
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The Express says 10.30, so I'll ignore that. Sports Bible says just before 11, are they reliable?
According to Talkshite, who have the exclusive radio commentary:
10.54, gone midnight? They must be at least 2 hours ahead then
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This.
See above
So it says UAE is 3 hours ahead of the Uk, so they’ll start boxing around 1:54 local time?
Seems very late to start fighting wonder do they train for this.
Seems very late to start fighting wonder do they train for this.
They'll be two hours ahead, so not quite that late. But it will still be after midnight their time.
It’s also not in the UAE? It’s in Jeddah. Which is in Saudi. Which is 2 hours ahead not 3. But either way, still seems v late.
Sorry thought it was in Dubai.
Any rivers will be appreciated.
I do have IPTV too if anybody knows non UK channels showing it? Expect the PPV stream will be crap with so many watching.
I do have IPTV too if anybody knows non UK channels showing it? Expect the PPV stream will be crap with so many watching.
For all my Ukrainian people, the fight is being shown on Usyk's YouTube channel as well as public broadcasting/streaming services:
https://usyk.megogo.net/
https://tv.suspilne.media/live#ua
Obviously, there's no way non-Ukrainians can watch it on the above links.
https://usyk.megogo.net/
https://tv.suspilne.media/live#ua
Obviously, there's no way non-Ukrainians can watch it on the above links.