The Pretty Formations Thread 14/15

I think it's time to take some inspiration from American Football.


Adnan Januzaj------------Luke Shaw--[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ander_Herrera']Ander Herrera[/URL]--Robin van Persie--Juan Mata--Wayne Rooney--Rafael------------Ángel Di María
---------------------------------------------------------------David de Gea---------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------Phil Jones-----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------Antonio Valencia-------------------------------------------------------------------

Now I know at first glance this looks farcical, but let me assure you this is revolutionary.

The first obvious point is that our goalkeeper is not playing in a traditional position, however we know big Dave's distribution is on a new level and he would excel in a traditional QB role spraying the ball to the rest of the team, whilst still carrying out the traditional playground role of rush keeper.

Now this is where the real genius of the formation kicks in, we are told time and time again that we have no central defence and no midfield, whilst also having an abundance of number 10's and a couple of decent wingers. This formation requires NO midfield and NO CBs. Obviously Januzaj and Di Maria (feck off guys he's coming) are natural fits to the WR position and will wreak havoc with all the space at their disposal. But how to they get the space you ask, well the huge amount of playmakers patrolling the middle of the pitch will naturally draw the other team to them leaving the rest of the field exposed, which either plays in our WR or alternatively gives our RBs, Jones and Valencia, lots of space to unleash their trademark bulldozing runs.

Now it's not all attack, that would be stupid. Both Jones and Valencia have shown they can defend so from that RB position at the back can drop deep into a defensive position, whilst both Shaw and Rafael who are playing Tight End can also drop off the attacking unit, whilst Herrera and Mata fall behind Rooney and RvP to provide stability in the middle of the park.

Sign me up United, I am the messiah.
 
Saskjoe said:
I think it's time to take some inspiration from American Football.


Adnan Januzaj------------Luke Shaw--Ander Herrera--Robin van Persie--Juan Mata--Wayne Rooney--Rafael------------Ángel Di María
---------------------------------------------------------------David de Gea---------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------Phil Jones-----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------Antonio Valencia-------------------------------------------------------------------

Now I know at first glance this looks farcical, but let me assure you this is revolutionary.

The first obvious point is that our goalkeeper is not playing in a traditional position, however we know big Dave's distribution is on a new level and he would excel in a traditional QB role spraying the ball to the rest of the team, whilst still carrying out the traditional playground role of rush keeper.

Now this is where the real genius of the formation kicks in, we are told time and time again that we have no central defence and no midfield, whilst also having an abundance of number 10's and a couple of decent wingers. This formation requires NO midfield and NO CBs. Obviously Januzaj and Di Maria (feck off guys he's coming) are natural fits to the WR position and will wreak havoc with all the space at their disposal. But how to they get the space you ask, well the huge amount of playmakers patrolling the middle of the pitch will naturally draw the other team to them leaving the rest of the field exposed, which either plays in our WR or alternatively gives our RBs, Jones and Valencia, lots of space to unleash their trademark bulldozing runs.

Now it's not all attack, that would be stupid. Both Jones and Valencia have shown they can defend so from that RB position at the back can drop deep into a defensive position, whilst both Shaw and Rafael who are playing Tight End can also drop off the attacking unit, whilst Herrera and Mata fall behind Rooney and RvP to provide stability in the middle of the park.

Sign me up United, I am the messiah.
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That was awesome!

I guess Anderson would be one of the 300lb guys in Defensive Tackle?
 
JTW95 said:
That was awesome!

I guess Anderson would be one of the 300lb guys in Defensive Tackle?
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I think it depends on the team you're playing, as we wouldn't face up against American Footballers there wouldn't be the need for someone like Anderson to block in the middle. That being said it would certainly be a viable alternative against a more physical team, on a wet windy night at the Britannia for example. Add Anderson, and move Jones and Valencia up into the middle to tie up men, then use the quicker number 10's as RB's instead to take advantage of the space left by the slower players.

It's certainly foolproof.
 
Saskjoe said:
I think it depends on the team you're playing, as we wouldn't face up against American Footballers there wouldn't be the need for someone like Anderson to block in the middle. That being said it would certainly be a viable alternative against a more physical team, on a wet windy night at the Britannia for example. Add Anderson, and move Jones and Valencia up into the middle to tie up men, then use the quicker number 10's as RB's instead to take advantage of the space left by the slower players.

It's certainly foolproof.
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Somebody needs to send this to information Coach Van Gaal. I am sure him and his Offensive Coordinator Ryan Giggs could really do something with this. We just need to get Di Maria before the draft ends!
 
------------De Gea----------
-Rafael--Evans---Jones----Shaw----
-----------Carrick-------------------
-----Pearson-----Herrera---------

-Januzaj----Rooney--Welbeck------
 
JTW95 said:
Somebody needs to send this to information Coach Van Gaal. I am sure him and his Offensive Coordinator Ryan Giggs could really do something with this. We just need to get Di Maria before the draft ends!
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I appreciate your support.

The other bonus is with the rise in popularity in the states and rise in US ownership. When the inevitable move to rolling substitutions arrives and we can play separate offensive and defensive units, we will only need to work on our defensive unit whilst the other teams will be left behind trying to adapt to both.
 
with the big assumption that our only signing could be Di Maria

I think Di Maria and Herrera ahead slightly of Carrick/Fletcher would represent a very good midfield

my team would be

---------------------------De Gea------------------------------

--------------------Jones------------Rojo----------------------

Rafael---------------------Carrick-------------------------Shaw

---------------Di Maria-----------------Herrera------------------

-----------------------------Mata---------------------------------

--------------------RVP------------Rooney-----------------------

In terms of backup we have Valencia/Smalling who can play at RWB
Rojo/Blackett can back up Shaw
Khedira would be superb anchoring our midfield but we have backup to Carrick in Fletcher
I think Fellaini and Cleverley at a push can back up the industrious Herrera and Di Maria
Kagawa/Januzaj backing up Mata

Ideally we'd have a pacey striker to play up top - this team is very talented but not sure how dynamic it would be on the break

even with spending another 50 million on Di Maria its clear we are in need of improvements
 
4-3-3

-Rooney-------RVP-----------Januzaj
-----DiMaria---------Herrera---------
----------Carrick/Fletcher----------
Shaw----Rojo-----Evans-------Rafael-

Mata off the bench, for now.
 
NoPace said:
4-3-3

-Rooney-------RVP-----------Januzaj
-----DiMaria---------Herrera---------
----------Carrick/Fletcher----------
Shaw----Rojo-----Evans-------Rafael-

Mata off the bench, for now.
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Yep, loving this formation. There'll be so many possibilities if we sign di Maria, I don't know if I'll be able to handle the awesomeness.
 
Assuming we will stick with three at the back.

Our Dave
Smalling Evans Rojo
Rafael Herrera Jones Shaw
Di Maria Rooney Mata​
 
----------van Persie---Rooney------------
---Di Maria---------------------Januzaj---
------------Carrick----Herrera------------
--Shaw-------Rojo-----Evans------Rafael--
------------------De Gea----------------

Can always rotate and say van Persie or Rooney are injured you could just stick Mata in the hole and it'd be equally as lethal.
 
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Christmas tree. It's an arrow which literally points to where the goal is. It cannot fail.

I don't think we have other players in the squad capable of what Di Maria (hopefully) and Herrera are capable of though, which is a little concerning. Di Maria can play that winger/box to box midfielder role he played last season, and drive up both flanks with his ridiculous energy. Rooney to play close to RVP and Mata to link Blind and Herrera to the forwards. Shaw and Rafael for extra width. Van Persie will do the goals.

If we can finally have some luck with keeping everyone fit, that team can win the league. Big talk.
 
Van Persie
Rooney ===========
Mata
---------------------- Di Maria
=== Herrara
Carrick =-------==
Shaw -====================
Rojo - Smalling - Rafael
DDG
​

Symmetrical formations are a thing of the past!
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With so many formations being posted everywhere probably time for a bump -

If we wanna shoehorn all our best players then our best 2 bets are -

------------------------De Gea---------------------------------

----Rafael--------Fit CB-----------Fit CB---------------Shaw

------------------------Carrick-----------------------------

--------Herera----------------------Di Maria----------------

-------------------------Mata------------------------------

----------------Rooney -----------------RVP------------------


Or Alternatively City style 4-2-2-2 -


--------------------------De Gea-----------------------------------

----Rafael--- -Not injured CB--------Not injured CB-------Shaw


----------------Carrick--------------Herrera-------------------


---------Mata-------------------------------------Di Maria-----

-------------------------Rooney-------------------------------

--------------------------------RVP---------------------------



Or we just go 4-3-3 and bring Januzaj in or go 3-6-1 dropping one of Rooney/RVP for Di Maria as Gary neville suggested. In a 3-5-2 play Di Maria as one wingback and other side more defensive fullback option maybe with a proper screener (Carrick/Jones) in midfield.
 
Provided we bring in another CM.


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I know that it means RVP is on the bench, but we're now in a position where we can only really play Rooney or RVP and not both in my opinion. And since Rooney is now captain...
 
------Rooney - RvP
----Di Maria - - Mata
-----------herrera
Shaw ---------------Rafael
----Rojo--Carrick--Jones
-----------DDG
 
I probably get thread banned for this but, I think we should go 4-4-2 with Rooney-RVP upfront, Carrick-Herrera in midfield and Mata/DiMaria out wide with freedom to move inside.
 
From the players we currently have (including Blind) I personalyl think the 4-2-3-1 give us the most balance and ability to pick the best players in positions familiar to them. Whatever formation we do play though I dont see how you fit Mata, RVP and Rooney in without at least one being a square peg in a round hole and all fit and looking at the system, I still see Mata as the fall guy here
 
I don't care how we line up as long as these rules are followed:

- DDG in goal
- 4 defenders
- Fullbacks being actual fullbacks(no more Valencia, Young, Jones or Smalling)
- Di Maria on the wing
- Januzaj on the other wing
- Fletcher only starting in CM in emergencies
- Rooney not playing AM
- RVP and Rooney not starting at the same time


Oh my, that's quite a lot of demands. Oh well:devil:
 


Deadwood who can be useful if we have injury:
CM: Fletcher, Fellaini
RB: Valencia
Wingers: Young

We still have the youngsters as well. For example: Wilson, Reece, Blackett, Keane, Pearson, Powell, Lawrence and more..
 
With Blind, three at the back should be a thing of the past, if Vidal comes, three at the back must be a thing of the past. 4-3-3 the way forward.
 
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