I agree, but Ronaldo gone in the summer, Vardy on loan here and in exchange we send them Pellistri or Amad to play on the right (they had nobody there until January) and they're narrowly staying up and we've got 4th comfortably.
The potential relegation fire sale- 22/23
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I agree, but Ronaldo gone in the summer, Vardy on loan here and in exchange we send them Pellistri or Amad to play on the right (they had nobody there until January) and they're narrowly staying up and we've got 4th comfortably.
I know he is an annoying cnut but Pickford is levels above any keeper we have had this century excluding VDS and he definitely would fit the philosophy ETH wants to implement.
You what?
I'm not 100% sure he's even been Everton's best keeper this century.
That'd be the American dude who used to play for us.
Definitely a strong case for Howard being Everton's best keeper this century.
It's a fair cop, I was not actually commenting on Pickford compared to Everton keepers but I totally forgot that Howard even played for us. That said, the Tim Howard that Everton got was a lot better than anything we saw in his stint at Old Trafford which came too soon for him I think.
I’m not claiming he’s the next Casemiro, Busquets or Ballon’Dor (or even close), but I’m saying he might just prove to be a solid backup-DM that we can get on the cheap from a relegation fire sale.
As of now we don’t have a backup to Casemiro, we surely need one..
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Howard at Everton was a beast. We saw glimpses at United. Did he not come out and admit that he wasn't mentally strong enough to make it at United?
I felt we gave up on him pretty quickly but obviously no one can argue VDS replacing him was a bad idea.
I think he has develope dinto a very good keeper personally. However the person stating he fits into ETH and his philosophy, he isnt a ball playing keeper at all, very often plays the ball long thinking of safety first. And considrign that, think its ludicrous the person saying he woudl be the best keeper here this century by far here this century when DeGea was one of the best keepers in the world for a decent period of time, Pickford is a good keeper, not top tier best in world though
Think one thing affects all of this, we have no idea what potential transfer fees would be. I know Leicester for example cant expect to hold on to Maddison in the championship....but that hardly means he will be going for peanuts, especially if there is serious competition for him, they could still be demanding £60-70m for him for all we know.
Also the other side of the coin, some of the names bandied about here, some of them are good players, but just because a player is at a relegated side and may be a good reduction on there price, that doesnt mean they actually improve us and the "back up" argument....we are possibly five players short of a genuine quality first eleven, even a good back up for £10-20m, is that so great if we dont have large funds this summer?
The biggest thing for me, even relegated, I still think the cream of this crop demand at the least something close to premiership fees in a summer we need several signings.....most of them there are players abroad probably cost half as much. Its a bit different to Fergie paying record fees for domestic players, they were generally cheaper than the foreign equivalent and the premiership had nowhere near the same pull. Nottingham Forest lets not forget paid £40m for Gibbs-White, I like him but would they sell him for less than that fee if relegated, I wouldnt have thought so and Caqueret, Le Fee, Viega, they would all be simlar fees if not cheaper I would guess.
4/5players purely as players I think could provide value, but most of them not sure about value fee wise.
One name been of interest before thoug hold surprised not seeing mentioned is Kaylor Navas. If we dont renew DeGeas contract its more than likely with the names bandied about to be a relatively yougn and experienced keeper we sign, I would expect Navas to be pretty cheap, he is still a very good keeper and offers a wealth of experience as a number two
Also the other side of the coin, some of the names bandied about here, some of them are good players, but just because a player is at a relegated side and may be a good reduction on there price, that doesnt mean they actually improve us and the "back up" argument....we are possibly five players short of a genuine quality first eleven, even a good back up for £10-20m, is that so great if we dont have large funds this summer?
The biggest thing for me, even relegated, I still think the cream of this crop demand at the least something close to premiership fees in a summer we need several signings.....most of them there are players abroad probably cost half as much. Its a bit different to Fergie paying record fees for domestic players, they were generally cheaper than the foreign equivalent and the premiership had nowhere near the same pull. Nottingham Forest lets not forget paid £40m for Gibbs-White, I like him but would they sell him for less than that fee if relegated, I wouldnt have thought so and Caqueret, Le Fee, Viega, they would all be simlar fees if not cheaper I would guess.
4/5players purely as players I think could provide value, but most of them not sure about value fee wise.
One name been of interest before thoug hold surprised not seeing mentioned is Kaylor Navas. If we dont renew DeGeas contract its more than likely with the names bandied about to be a relatively yougn and experienced keeper we sign, I would expect Navas to be pretty cheap, he is still a very good keeper and offers a wealth of experience as a number two
actually the best evertons keeper this century was Nigel Martyn
This post is on mind bending drugs
Id take Keane, Des Walker & Stuart Pearce please
As things stand right now
JWP
Walker peters
Lavia
Bella kotchap
Maddison
Tielemens
Anyone good enough for us?
JWP
Walker peters
Lavia
Bella kotchap
Maddison
Tielemens
Anyone good enough for us?
Maddison has 1 year left on his contract. 40 mill should do it if they go down. I think its a bargain and we need someone to play RW while we are awaiting the world class Antony.
Was this post typed on dinosaur arms?
Literally everthing in this post is wrong. Every bit.
Really hope we aren't in for Maddison. I know it's weird to have personal feelings about footballers but Maddison is the exception. Strikes me as an absolute bellend and he's got an annoyingly punchable face. Romeo Lavia is the only player I'd take from relegation candidates.
He's scored 3 goals this season. He's done physically.
I'm like a broken clock but sign JWP. Great back up and a much better player than Scott McTominay
Pickford is ass
OMG I cant with this site anymore. I just can't. fecking hell.
Just wish he offered more than set pieces
I like his personality and think he has that swagger to really flourish at this club. Little bit like we are seeing with Grealish now at City
Whereas Scott doesn't even offer that.
FFS no to Pickford.
this x1000
I recant. Problem with commenting on players you do not watch often enough, I had not realized quite how many and how spectacular his errors were and I shall henceforth stay in my lane as the forums premier Dan James (and other assorted Welsh players) booster. That Danny Ward eh? Cracking Keeper.
If we could bring on a kicker like in American Football, JWP would be sweet for our freekicks and corners.
Have to disagree, had the most assists for an English player for a while I think. Would be great as another RW for a reasonable price.
Sorry, wasnt aware of the cotnract situation, so yes, makes sense. Was surprised to see he is 26 or whatever it was recently, thought he wsa younger for some reason
Yeah like I have said in this thread I have always felt he was made to play for Utd,however gut feeling is that he will join Newcastle
Watching Leeds today, nobody stood out as really close to good enough, though Gnonto's desire is notable, but we have great options at his position.
My guess is the only top 7 teams that will sign relegated players are Maddison joining Spurs or Newcastle, Lavia maybe to Chelsea and possibly Walker-Peters to Arsenal who could use an attacking RB off the bench.
My guess is the only top 7 teams that will sign relegated players are Maddison joining Spurs or Newcastle, Lavia maybe to Chelsea and possibly Walker-Peters to Arsenal who could use an attacking RB off the bench.
So we are getting none of them
I don't really expect Ten Hag to go for any of the relegated guys, maybe a loan of a Leicester #9 to compete with Martial if we sell Sancho and Elanga (or loan one) and keep Amad and Pellistri:
#9 - Kane or whoever, Martial, Daka/Vardy/Iheanacho, Rashford
LW - Rashford, Garnacho, Pellistri, Bruno
RW - Antony, Amad, Pellistri, Bruno
makes some sense if we can only spend like 60M in attack net. 4 options at each spot, 8 for 3 spots with Bruno obviously the #10 most of the time. 7 for 3 attacking spots feels a tad light. 5 wingers, but 3 strikers because Martial is never healthy. Pellistri would be mad though.
Regardless of the starting spots we need to fill, I absolutely think a back up midfielder is crucial, especially in that can step in for Casemiro in his many suspended games. I don't watch Southampton much, but could Lavia be that player?
I'm intrigued by Ihenacho, but he wouldn't and shouldn't be as a starting option and I would imagine that's what he would want. It's a shame DCL got injured and never really kicked on because I thought he might be an option at one point.
Really like Madison as a player, but again he'll go somewhere where he starts regularly. Maybe we can prevent him going to Newcastle by selling them McTom.
I'm intrigued by Ihenacho, but he wouldn't and shouldn't be as a starting option and I would imagine that's what he would want. It's a shame DCL got injured and never really kicked on because I thought he might be an option at one point.
Really like Madison as a player, but again he'll go somewhere where he starts regularly. Maybe we can prevent him going to Newcastle by selling them McTom.