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A better episode but would have been even better if they'd sometimes shut the feck up and let the guest speak instead of arguing over each other. :rolleyes:
 
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A better episode but would have been even better if they'd sometimes shut the feck up and let the guest speak instead of arguing over each other. :rolleyes:


Didn't think I'd find this one interesting but Kasper's explanation of the role, his experience etc was quite interesting.
 
I find the constant plugging of crap annoying.

Either on youtube or Spotify, it might just be me, but it seems to be getting more and more every week, makes it a very frustrating listen, it's not like these guys need the money.

That and asking questions then butting in over each other with their own pointless chatter.
 
I find the constant plugging of crap annoying.

Either on youtube or Spotify, it might just be me, but it seems to be getting more and more every week, makes it a very frustrating listen, it's not like these guys need the money.

That and asking questions then butting in over each other with their own pointless chatter.

So they should just refuse to make easy money?
 
So they should just refuse to make easy money?

They need to realise how negatively it affects the listener experience and find a better balance. But it's sponsored by sky so it will gradually become more about ads than content like their football coverage.
 
They need to realise how negatively it affects the listener experience and find a better balance. But it's sponsored by sky so it will gradually become more about ads than content like their football coverage.
You can fast forward it.

Also, unless you have Youtube premium there are 50 ad breaks in a 75 minute segment to spoil the "listener experience".
 


A better episode but would have been even better if they'd sometimes shut the feck up and let the guest speak instead of arguing over each other. :rolleyes:


Funnily enough, he's far more well-spoken and seems more comfortable talking English than his national language. I know he's grown up and mainly lived in England, but for someone mainly used to hearing him speak Danish, he's like a different and more confident character when talking English.
 
They need to realise how negatively it affects the listener experience and find a better balance. But it's sponsored by sky so it will gradually become more about ads than content like their football coverage.

Its a business that employs editors, camera people etc, I imagine they all also get appearance fees as well. Pretty much every podcast on youtube is sponsored, its a podcast's predominant form of income.
 
Its a business that employs editors, camera people etc, I imagine they all also get appearance fees as well. Pretty much every podcast on youtube is sponsored, its a podcast's predominant form of income.

Ads also on Spotify, so if I pay for Spotify premium, I can listen to 1000s of hours of music in the car with no ads. With this, before it starts your being bombarded ads for skybet, stick to rugby, huel and it continues right the way through.

You can fast forward it.

Also, unless you have Youtube premium there are 50 ad breaks in a 75 minute segment to spoil the "listener experience".

If I put this on YouTube. I will use brave with ad blocker. So no ads.

There's a balance to be had and it's gone beyond tolerable in my opinion.
 
Ads also on Spotify, so if I pay for Spotify premium, I can listen to 1000s of hours of music in the car with no ads. With this, before it starts your being bombarded ads for skybet, stick to rugby, huel and it continues right the way through.



If I put this on YouTube. I will use brave with ad blocker. So no ads.

There's a balance to be had and it's gone beyond tolerable in my opinion.

The youtube ads you don't see if you pay for premium, as would be the same on spotify, are ads run by youtube that the podcast would get a small cut of. The ads within the podcasts are directly for the podcast and provide a bigger source of funding, which is why all proper podcasts have them. At least with the in podcast ads you can fast forward them which is not the same for all youtube run ads if you don't have premium.
 
The youtube ads you don't see if you pay for premium, as would be the same on spotify, are ads run by youtube that the podcast would get a small cut of. The ads within the podcasts are directly for the podcast and provide a bigger source of funding, which is why all proper podcasts have them. At least with the in podcast ads you can fast forward them which is not the same for all youtube run ads if you don't have premium.
You can download brave browser on your phone or PC and watch youtube on there without needing premium at all.
 
The youtube ads you don't see if you pay for premium, as would be the same on spotify, are ads run by youtube that the podcast would get a small cut of. The ads within the podcasts are directly for the podcast and provide a bigger source of funding, which is why all proper podcasts have them. At least with the in podcast ads you can fast forward them which is not the same for all youtube run ads if you don't have premium.

I use YouTube on brave, so no ads, plus I can switch tabs and it will still play. If I'm driving I can't really just skip the ads on Spotify.

I understand the point of the ads, what I'm saying is that on this the frequency and length of the ads seems to have increased and it's become more of a nuisance. Which impacts the overall listening experience.
 
A very enjoyable episode. Kasper Schmeichel put across his points extremely well.

I also thought that in 2015/2016 as he said, Kante effectively seemed like two players on the pitch rolled into one.

Definitely the biggest sporting upset I think of in my lifetime. Upsets in one off sport events (i.e. Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson or Japan beating South Africa in the 2015 Rugby World Cup), or knockout tournaments (Greece at Euro 2004 or Ivanisevic at Wimbledon in 2001), don't compare to those over a 9 month league campaign.

In terms of league campaigns, I think it also comfortably tops any of Verona in 1985, Kaiserslautern in 1998, Boavista in 1995, Montpellier in 2012 etc. as an even bigger upset, given that per the bookmakers odds, Leicester were predicted to finish 15th or 16th at the start of 2015/2016. I doubt many people thought they'd finish above the likes of Everton, West Ham, Southampton (who were doing well under Koeman), Stoke (who at that time were doing well under Hughes) etc.

Two generations of Schmeichels winning English top flight / Premier League titles during Liverpool's drought, was funny.
 
A very enjoyable episode. Kasper Schmeichel put across his points extremely well.

I also thought that in 2015/2016 as he said, Kante effectively seemed like two players on the pitch rolled into one.

Definitely the biggest sporting upset I think of in my lifetime. Upsets in one off sport events (i.e. Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson or Japan beating South Africa in the 2015 Rugby World Cup), or knockout tournaments (Greece at Euro 2004 or Ivanisevic at Wimbledon in 2001), don't compare to those over a 9 month league campaign.

In terms of league campaigns, I think it also comfortably tops any of Verona in 1985, Kaiserslautern in 1998, Boavista in 1995, Montpellier in 2012 etc. as an even bigger upset, given that per the bookmakers odds, Leicester were predicted to finish 15th or 16th at the start of 2015/2016. I doubt many people thought they'd finish above the likes of Everton, West Ham, Southampton (who were doing well under Koeman), Stoke (who at that time were doing well under Hughes) etc.

Two generations of Schmeichels winning English top flight / Premier League titles during Liverpool's drought, was funny.

It’s the most unlikely sporting achievement in history and cant ever see it being beaten. Three years prior to that premier league was the championship playoff semi final defeat to watford. I imagine the odds of Leicester winning the PL three years after that would have been about the longest odds ever offered in sport.
 
A very enjoyable episode. Kasper Schmeichel put across his points extremely well.

I also thought that in 2015/2016 as he said, Kante effectively seemed like two players on the pitch rolled into one.

Definitely the biggest sporting upset I think of in my lifetime. Upsets in one off sport events (i.e. Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson or Japan beating South Africa in the 2015 Rugby World Cup), or knockout tournaments (Greece at Euro 2004 or Ivanisevic at Wimbledon in 2001), don't compare to those over a 9 month league campaign.

In terms of league campaigns, I think it also comfortably tops any of Verona in 1985, Kaiserslautern in 1998, Boavista in 1995, Montpellier in 2012 etc. as an even bigger upset, given that per the bookmakers odds, Leicester were predicted to finish 15th or 16th at the start of 2015/2016. I doubt many people thought they'd finish above the likes of Everton, West Ham, Southampton (who were doing well under Koeman), Stoke (who at that time were doing well under Hughes) etc.

Two generations of Schmeichels winning English top flight / Premier League titles during Liverpool's drought, was funny.
It was a true fairytale story. If someone had bet on Leicester winning the league, the UK voting to leave the EU, and Trump becoming President, they’d have ended up winning tens of millions of pounds.
 
It’s the most unlikely sporting achievement in history and cant ever see it being beaten. Three years prior to that premier league was the championship playoff semi final defeat to watford. I imagine the odds of Leicester winning the PL three years after that would have been about the longest odds ever offered in sport.

Agreed. It was miraculous.

As a club they hadn't previously finished in the top 10 in the Premier League since 1999/2000 (with a League One campaign 9 years after that), and had spent 11 out of the 13 previous seasons outside the top flight.

After he was appointed duting the summer of 2015, I'd imagine that Ranieri was one of the favourites to be the first managerial sacking of the season. In his previous role with Greece, he had been sacked after a home defeat against the Faroe Islands. And his most recent major trophy win had been the Copa del Rey with Valencia way back in 1998/1999.

Also at the start of that season, if you'd asked most football fans that followed the Premier League whether they thought Tony Pulis' West Brom or Leicester would finish higher in the league, I think most people would have gone for West Brom.

And in the 20 previous Premier League campaigns from 1995/1996 to 2014/2015, only 4 different teams had won the title, and only 7 different teams had even finished in the top 3 (with 1 of those 7 teams Leeds only doing it once). So there wasn't a great deal of parity.
 
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Agreed. It was miraculous.

As a club they hadn't previously finished in the top 10 in the Premier League since 1999/2000 (with a League One campaign 9 years after that), and had spent 11 out of the 13 previous seasons outside the top flight.

After he was appointed duting the summer of 2015, I'd imagine that Ranieri was one of the favourites to be the first managerial sacking of the season. In his previous role with Greece, he had been sacked after a home defeat against the Faroe Islands. And his most recent major trophy win had been the Copa del Rey with Valencia way back in 1998/1999.

Also at the start of that season, if you'd asked most football fans that followed the Premier League whether they thought Tony Pulis' West Brom or Leicester would finish higher in the league, I think most people would have gone for West Brom.

And in the 20 previous Premier League campaigns from 1995/1996 to 2014/2015, only 4 different teams had won the title, and only 7 different teams had even finished in the top 3 (with 1 of those 7 teams Leeds only doing it once). So there wasn't a great deal of parity.
Would you say that it’s the greatest shock in footballing history?
 
Would you say that it’s the greatest shock in footballing history?

I can't think of a bigger shock than that, especially given the era when they were playing in. In previous generations in English football specifically, and well before the Premier League era, teams in the 2nd division could realistically aim to win the 1st division in the medium future.

As discussed earlier, while Greece winning Euro 2004 was a huge shock, an upset over 6 matches with 3 knockout rounds, isn't comparable to un upset over a 9 month, 38 game league campaign.

Comparing it to other notable shock title wins in Europe over the years:

Verona in 1985 - They finished 4th in 1983, and were Coppa Italia finalists in 1983 and 1984.

Auxerre in 1996 - They had previously had numerous 3rd and 4th place league finishes in the 90s, and were regularly playing in the UEFA Cup.

Kaiserslautern in 1998 - They won the Bundesliga in 1991, finished 2nd in 1994 and 4th in 1995, and won the DFB-Pokal in 1996. Their relegation from the Bundesliga in 1996 was surely a huge surprise.

Deportivo in 2000 - They finished 2nd in 1994 (they should have won the title that year but blew it) and 1995, and 3rd in 1997, and had won the Copa del Rey in 1995.

Boavista in 2001 - They finished 2nd in 1999, 4th in 2000 and won the Taca de Portugal in 1997.

Montpellier in 2012 - They finished 5th to qualify for the Europa League in 2010.

Leicester in 2016 - They hadn't finished in the top 10 in the Premier League since 2000, had spent 11 out of the 13 previous seasons outside it including 1 in the 3rd tier, and narrowly avoided relegation the previous year after a great escape.

So as surprising as those other title wins were (obviously Verona in 1985, Montpellier in 2012 etc. were big shocks in their own right), clearly none of them were as big an upset as Leicester's in 2016.
 
Agreed. It was miraculous.

As a club they hadn't previously finished in the top 10 in the Premier League since 1999/2000 (with a League One campaign 9 years after that), and had spent 11 out of the 13 previous seasons outside the top flight.

After he was appointed duting the summer of 2015, I'd imagine that Ranieri was one of the favourites to be the first managerial sacking of the season. In his previous role with Greece, he had been sacked after a home defeat against the Faroe Islands. And his most recent major trophy win had been the Copa del Rey with Valencia way back in 1998/1999.

Also at the start of that season, if you'd asked most football fans that followed the Premier League whether they thought Tony Pulis' West Brom or Leicester would finish higher in the league, I think most people would have gone for West Brom.

And in the 20 previous Premier League campaigns from 1995/1996 to 2014/2015, only 4 different teams had won the title, and only 7 different teams had even finished in the top 3 (with 1 of those 7 teams Leeds only doing it once). So there wasn't a great deal of parity.

Funny thing ranieri was considered as a loser, i remember mourinho actually mocking him during his time at inter, he probably won the most remarkable premier league in the century
 
He is brutal, and he won't stop until he gets to the point where he believes he has to be, no matter the public outcrry. Gary giving him the idea to sell 40 tickets for 1000 pounds each and get the funds for the cut Ratcliffe made to the old players supports group was shocking.
 



These discussions on United's squad are so tiresome. Wright says 'Bruno, Garnacho and Mainoo, you'd struggle to keep the rest.' Absolute nonsense. So Amad should go for a start? Yoro? Rooney isn't quite as extreme as he'd keep Bruno and the youngsters. But that's still harsh on the likes of Ugarte, De Ligt, Mazraoui who have been decent signings.
 



These discussions on United's squad are so tiresome. Wright says 'Bruno, Garnacho and Mainoo, you'd struggle to keep the rest.' Absolute nonsense. So Amad should go for a start? Yoro? Rooney isn't quite as extreme as he'd keep Bruno and the youngsters. But that's still harsh on the likes of Ugarte, De Ligt, Mazraoui who have been decent signings.

I've stopped listening. The relentless nature of the negativity on United, particularly from Sky platforms and channels, is mental.
 



These discussions on United's squad are so tiresome. Wright says 'Bruno, Garnacho and Mainoo, you'd struggle to keep the rest.' Absolute nonsense. So Amad should go for a start? Yoro? Rooney isn't quite as extreme as he'd keep Bruno and the youngsters. But that's still harsh on the likes of Ugarte, De Ligt, Mazraoui who have been decent signings.

TBF I think every they're tired of it. Just sounded like a throwaway line to me rather than thinking about it too deeply or seriously because it's a constant subject on the podcast and in the media.

Overall I thought it was a much better episode.