Ole's new Island Lair is coming together, why would he want another job while he is plotting world domination.
Is this real? Is he really building that there? If so that's feckin magnificent!
The Overlap - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
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Is this real? Is he really building that there? If so that's feckin magnificent!
Apparently so, thats the actual mock up of his new gaff. The picture of the island is from the Daily Mail so it may be just an image of a random remote Norwegian Island, it reminds me of the big chase scene from the last Bond movie though. I am feeling Ernst Stavros Solksjaer, Bond villain vibes though, where else would the Baby Faced Assassin hang out.
It’s still so funny to read people saying Ronaldo was the cause for Ole’s time here coming to an end.
Ole was cooked either way. The expectations for the side had increased both in terms of trophies and performance on the pitch. Counter attacks and being happy with losing in finals and semifinals were not going to be seen as progress anymore.
Ole finished 2nd the year before but when you add context of Liverpool having a one year meltdown due to injuries and Tuchel leading Chelsea to the CL that same season you really see the 2nd place position was opportunistic. We were comfortably the 4th best team in the country by the time things stabilised for Liverpool and Chelsea after very rough starts due to circumstances.
Ole had taken us as far as he could by the end of 20/21. He finished 2nd and lost in the EL final, it was never going to get better than that for him.
We were never going to be close to City or Liverpool who finished with 99 and 94 points the following season. With how Chelsea started that season we weren’t close to them either until the Lukaku interview and Abramovic/Ukraine issue.
He had brought some consistency to the team and got us regular CL football but that was it. The intention was to push on and he had no clue how setup a side away from the bread and butter Bruno/Rashy ball. Ronaldo just increased the pressure and expectations but even without him Ole was clueless and on the way down after that 20/21 season.
Ole was cooked either way. The expectations for the side had increased both in terms of trophies and performance on the pitch. Counter attacks and being happy with losing in finals and semifinals were not going to be seen as progress anymore.
Ole finished 2nd the year before but when you add context of Liverpool having a one year meltdown due to injuries and Tuchel leading Chelsea to the CL that same season you really see the 2nd place position was opportunistic. We were comfortably the 4th best team in the country by the time things stabilised for Liverpool and Chelsea after very rough starts due to circumstances.
Ole had taken us as far as he could by the end of 20/21. He finished 2nd and lost in the EL final, it was never going to get better than that for him.
We were never going to be close to City or Liverpool who finished with 99 and 94 points the following season. With how Chelsea started that season we weren’t close to them either until the Lukaku interview and Abramovic/Ukraine issue.
He had brought some consistency to the team and got us regular CL football but that was it. The intention was to push on and he had no clue how setup a side away from the bread and butter Bruno/Rashy ball. Ronaldo just increased the pressure and expectations but even without him Ole was clueless and on the way down after that 20/21 season.
I totally think it was Ronaldo that did him in. I think the team chemistry was coming together quite nicely and he was bringing in some talent. Ronaldo ruined all of that. Without Ronaldo I think we would have finished 2nd or 3rd that year and Ole would have survived another year. Lastly, I enjoyed our football under Ole more than any other manager post SAF.
I was never a huge fan of Ole as a manager and always felt he should have left after that caretaker stint at the end of the 2018/19 season, post-Jose. If he had walked away then, he would likely be revered as an even bigger legend and could have landed a managerial role at another Premier League club. Look at Ruud van Nistelrooy now - his path shows how timing and self-awareness can be key for a manager's journey.
Ole is just not tactically savvy but his greatest strength is his man-management, he excelled in creating an emotional bond with the players and fans due to his likeable personality. He embodied the spirit of the club, emphasizing its traditions and values, which resonated deeply during a time when United was searching for its identity post-Ferguson. The caretaker stint in 2018–19, restoring belief and going on that winning streak post Jose, with that magical night in Paris, and the rejuvenation of the squad's morale, felt like a dream. But the decision to make him permanent manager exposed his limitations, especially at the highest level of tactical management.
That said, as much as I think Ole was tactically one of the most incompetent managers in the club's history, going through the pain of Erik ten Hag's tenure has made me appreciate Ole a bit more for his man-management skills. He had an uncanny ability to rally the team when under pressure, pulling off runs of results that seemed almost miraculous. Some of the highs he gave us were pure joy - the 9-0 drubbing of Southampton, the comeback win against PSG, Those moments were unforgettable.
What I still can’t wrap my head around is how the club refused to listen to him about signing Erling Haaland. It is a disaster in hindsight and something I’ll never understand. Missing out on a generational talent like that, when Ole had the connection and insight, is unforgivable.
While Ole wasn’t the right man to take us to the next level and restore Manchester United to the high standards that Sir Alex set, you can’t deny that he gave us some incredible moments and somehow always managed to go on a good run when his job was on the brink. Looking back, I’ve come to appreciate the spirit he brought to the club, even if he wasn’t the long-term answer. He might not have been the manager we needed, but he gave us back a piece of what it means to be Manchester United.
Ole is just not tactically savvy but his greatest strength is his man-management, he excelled in creating an emotional bond with the players and fans due to his likeable personality. He embodied the spirit of the club, emphasizing its traditions and values, which resonated deeply during a time when United was searching for its identity post-Ferguson. The caretaker stint in 2018–19, restoring belief and going on that winning streak post Jose, with that magical night in Paris, and the rejuvenation of the squad's morale, felt like a dream. But the decision to make him permanent manager exposed his limitations, especially at the highest level of tactical management.
That said, as much as I think Ole was tactically one of the most incompetent managers in the club's history, going through the pain of Erik ten Hag's tenure has made me appreciate Ole a bit more for his man-management skills. He had an uncanny ability to rally the team when under pressure, pulling off runs of results that seemed almost miraculous. Some of the highs he gave us were pure joy - the 9-0 drubbing of Southampton, the comeback win against PSG, Those moments were unforgettable.
What I still can’t wrap my head around is how the club refused to listen to him about signing Erling Haaland. It is a disaster in hindsight and something I’ll never understand. Missing out on a generational talent like that, when Ole had the connection and insight, is unforgivable.
While Ole wasn’t the right man to take us to the next level and restore Manchester United to the high standards that Sir Alex set, you can’t deny that he gave us some incredible moments and somehow always managed to go on a good run when his job was on the brink. Looking back, I’ve come to appreciate the spirit he brought to the club, even if he wasn’t the long-term answer. He might not have been the manager we needed, but he gave us back a piece of what it means to be Manchester United.
Couldn’t agree more
After watching EtH, I’m not sure he and his team where poor tactically.
Solskjaer, McKenna and Carrick would have done quite well if we had a recruitment team that spent money smart. They did ok for some time with awful recruitment.
It's just sad that people will keep parroting this nonsense until the end of time
This. Ole didn’t do the coaching, that was Carrick and McKenna’s job. As we’ve seen, they’ve gone on to be decent/good coaches elsewhere.
Ole’s strength was uniting the dressing room. If we’d got him better players (like that DM he wanted instead of playing McFred every week) then who knows where we’d be.
Not saying he’s blameless. He did sign Maguire and wan bissaka, and then abandon counter attacking for defending on the halfway line, which was a bit mad. But imagine if we’d signed Rice and Haaland and left Ronaldo alone. Hard to see it imploding like it did.
Pure unrefined copium.
We were going nowhere under ole. His greatest achievement was finishing second, 14 points behind and we were never ever in a title race.
The Europa league final was off the back of a failure in the champions league to put us in there.
Can you list the most incompetent managers in United's history in your opinion?
His agent wanted the same buy-out clause in his contract that he had at Dortmund. United don't do buy-out clauses and I agree with that stance. If you want to be a top team you can't build a team around a star striker who has a £50m buy out clause in his contract and could end up at one of your main rivals any given summer if they activate the clause.
I'm not sure Ole would have brought a PL title. I'm pretty sure we were getting better under him and the football was fun to watch. Ole is not the only one with CL failure since SAF and getting to two finals shows he knows how to win.
Difference of opinion.
People certainly go overboard about it and make out he was one of the worst in the league or some rubbish (the 'PE teacher'), but his tactical acumen was probably his biggest weakness.
Based purely on what they did here at Utd, ETH was far worse tactically than Ole. What he attempted to do didn't even make sense, with it basically being the exact opposite of what all successful teams have been doing for decades (which is to compact play as much as possible when not in possession, whereas we went out of our way to open up the field as much as possible and give the opposition more room than they could possibly believe). His in-game management also got regularly embarrassed by managers from the Championship, PL relegation-battlers and lower European leagues.
Martial scored 7 goals the season before Ronaldo. That was our main striker. He barely played through injury the following year. Has scored about 18 goals in the last 5 years.
Cavani was gone mentally and or physically that season. We know what happened with Greenwood. Look at Rashford since.
That's not a forward line with chemistry. It's a disaster.
And Ronaldo was the answer? Please.
Nobody is saying that.
Yeah if nothing else, proved more tactically adept than ETH at United. Though its not the fashionable thing to say.
The Ole years were at least the most entertaining years we had since Fergie. There is no doubt about there.
And looking back thats the least you can ask for from the club from a fan"s perspective. So personally, he will always be rated higher than the majority of the post-Fergie managers -- especially when you consider the limitations his ensalada/legacy squad.
And looking back thats the least you can ask for from the club from a fan"s perspective. So personally, he will always be rated higher than the majority of the post-Fergie managers -- especially when you consider the limitations his ensalada/legacy squad.
Would be very very happy if this was the status today
Ole Review: He was second he couldnt get better, Chelsea had an off year everyone else imploded, give him the boot.
ETH Review: We're a few points off relegation trust the process
Why are people so critical of Ole i still dont get. yes he isnt Pep but he brought some joy to this club.
ETH Review: We're a few points off relegation trust the process
Why are people so critical of Ole i still dont get. yes he isnt Pep but he brought some joy to this club.
1. Ole had no managerial pedigree and never had success at a top club in Europe(Norway doesn't count).Ole Review: He was second he couldnt get better, Chelsea had an off year everyone else imploded, give him the boot.
ETH Review: We're a few points off relegation trust the process
Why are people so critical of Ole i still dont get. yes he isnt Pep but he brought some joy to this club.
2. Every optimistic Manchester United fan hoped ETH will turn it around and make us a better version of his Ajax.
Overall Ole was clearly better than ETH in terms of league performances, results and entertainment. When he was sacked the team was probably slightly better that it was when ETH was sacked, so no big difference there.
Until you realise it’s either fecking freezing else raining 360 days a year.
Doesn't coastal Norway get pretty mild winters compared to most of the rest of Scandinavia?
Yes. That's why he mentioned raining.
100% agree. Finishing 2nd and 3rd in the league will require at least some tactical accumen. Look at what Ragnick and ETH achieved with the same or an improved squad.