The Overlap | Clattenburg: United Mind Games, Liverpool Bust Ups & Forest Exit! The Overlap Fan Debate

Funny how opinions differ.
Great player (at Highbury) but Personally, I find him arrogant, cringey and speaks without substance.
Do you mean in punditry? I'm talking about just in real life. He'll crack jokes and be generally nice. Ian Wright also is super friendly, always goes out of his way to be pleasant.
 
Do you mean in punditry? I'm talking about just in real life. He'll crack jokes and be generally nice. Ian Wright also is super friendly, always goes out of his way to be pleasant.
Yeah there's going to be extremes. I think wright seems normal in comparison to the rest but even he's kind of slightly eccentric. In the best of way's, being weird as feck isn't always a bad thing.
 
Did they mention his odd Notts Country spell?
Think he signed a mad deal, 5 years, on big money for what would have been maybe a league 2 club.
Then walked out after 1 game and actually played in the Premier league again!
 
Definitely something off with Sol. He's a very weird bloke.

Maybe Aspergers or similar. I don't mean that to be insulting or funny, just a guess. My ex's son had it and he reminds me of him.

Strange choice of a guest.
 
Were Man Utd and Liverpool seriously in for Campbell before he joined Arsenal, or did Arsenal have a free-run at the transfer in terms of Premier League clubs (I know that Barca and Inter were both seriously interested in him).

Clearly the move from Tottenham to Arsenal paid off, given that he was leaving a mid-table club that had just finished 12th and hadn't finished in the top 6 in the league for 11 years, for one where he could win Premier Leagues and FA Cups and also play in Champions League knockout games including a final. The irony of him celebrating winning a Premier League title at White Hart Lane with Arsenal was pretty hilarious.

But his lack of understanding about why Tottenham fans despised him afterwards was pretty ridiculous. Didn't he whine about not being invited to the final game at White Hart Lane in 2017?
 
I get what you’re saying but it seems a bit of a never ending road to go down that.
You could basically apply that to every single situation where a black player is deemed to have ‘wronged a club’ who also happen to have white fans.

You could also basically apply it to any situation in life involving a black person.

I feel like some of his 'I don't know" responses when asked to elaborate further were sort of heading down this road but he didn't necessarily want to go there. Like the discussion around the England captaincy and him feeling he was overlooked seemed like it was heading that way (in fact I'm pretty sure he has explicitly said before he thinks race was why).

Weird guy is Sol.
Bro thinks he’s the main character of the football universe.


"I was thinking about going to Forest". Were they in for you?......No. Why did you want to go to Forest?....dunno. Was Clough manager then?.....Dunno”.

Props to Neville and his interview skills for squeezing all he could out of him. Clearly all 5 of them thought he was a helmet, Gary touched upon at the end with the awkward comments.

This one though was just plain odd. :lol: Asked to give a single reason why he was apparently thinking about going to Forest and couldn't give one. Were they interested? Was it the manager you wanted to play for? Had an affinity with the club and wanted to play for them? Nope none of those. 'I don't know, whatever the reason'...
 
He has some off responses. He remembered his goals perfectly at the start. Then Neville asked about the tunnel incident and Sol responds: 'Was the over a shirt or something? What was it over?' Neville perplexed, responds, 'what do you mean, you were there?'

Like someone mentioned before he may have Asperger's, I have a family member with it and I see signs. It felt like some of the stories weren't true. He had that tone of voice that meant he was making it up on the fly, especially the Inter Milan and Barcelona rumours.
 
I bet it gives you a papercut
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I would like to see Vinny Jones, Del Piero, Patrick Kluivert, Pavel Nedved, Berbatov & Zlatan.
 
Someone with character, has strong interests outside of the game, isn't overly laddish and has experience using word and excel.
 
Will they address Roy’s comments regarding Bruno and his form? Wonder if Roy will play it off like Maddison.
Not much for him to say. After his rant he said Bruno was United's best player. Keane just has ridiculous standards for players and gets too emotional.
 
There's odd and then there's Sol Campbell. I meet a lot of these celebs where I work and some are nice and some are not so nice. Campbell and Denzel Washington were neither... They were just strange. Like they're some kind of robot rather than a human being.
Same.

He had an appointment at the offices of the sports PR agency I worked at. He wasn't my client but because I was new in the industry I'd get all the busy work. So that day I was tasked with bringing him some documents to look over and sign.

I grab them and as soon as I walked in the door - literally the SECOND, before I could even introduce myself - he hits me with "this place is a fecking mess". It wasn't. But still, I agreed with him and apologised. "That's not good enough mate, you need to have some pride in your work. The place is filthy". It was at this point I realised he thought I was the cleaner. To this day I have no idea why. I was wearing a (cheap) suit and had a stack of papers in my hand.

Found out later that even though I'd subsequently introduced myself, made it clear I wasn't the cleaner, then spent way too long going over various documents with him; that he still complained on the way out about how shit the cleaner (me) was.
 
Same.

He had an appointment at the offices of the sports PR agency I worked at. He wasn't my client but because I was new in the industry I'd get all the busy work. So that day I was tasked with bringing him some documents to look over and sign.

I grab them and as soon as I walked in the door - literally the SECOND, before I could even introduce myself - he hits me with "this place is a fecking mess". It wasn't. But still, I agreed with him and apologised. "That's not good enough mate, you need to have some pride in your work. The place is filthy". It was at this point I realised he thought I was the cleaner. To this day I have no idea why. I was wearing a (cheap) suit and had a stack of papers in my hand.

Found out later that even though I'd subsequently introduced myself, made it clear I wasn't the cleaner, then spent way too long going over various documents with him; that he still complained on the way out about how shit the cleaner (me) was.
What I'm hearing is that despite being a cleaner, you didn't clean the office when Sol came to town because he's black.
 
Not much for him to say. After his rant he said Bruno was United's best player. Keane just has ridiculous standards for players and gets too emotional.

He should first apologise on the half press comment. Just like the players are held accountable, pundits should be too.

It would be nice on the next one they discuss it and not just blank it.
 
Same.

He had an appointment at the offices of the sports PR agency I worked at. He wasn't my client but because I was new in the industry I'd get all the busy work. So that day I was tasked with bringing him some documents to look over and sign.

I grab them and as soon as I walked in the door - literally the SECOND, before I could even introduce myself - he hits me with "this place is a fecking mess". It wasn't. But still, I agreed with him and apologised. "That's not good enough mate, you need to have some pride in your work. The place is filthy". It was at this point I realised he thought I was the cleaner. To this day I have no idea why. I was wearing a (cheap) suit and had a stack of papers in my hand.

Found out later that even though I'd subsequently introduced myself, made it clear I wasn't the cleaner, then spent way too long going over various documents with him; that he still complained on the way out about how shit the cleaner (me) was.

What I'm hearing is that despite being a cleaner, you didn't clean the office when Sol came to town because he's black.
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Did they mention his odd Notts Country spell?
Think he signed a mad deal, 5 years, on big money for what would have been maybe a league 2 club.
Then walked out after 1 game and actually played in the Premier league again!

Don’t be daft, “Sir” Sol as always controlled the narrative, that would put him in a conspicuous light.

He said he left West Ham at 13 after one comment about the West Indies being 2-1 up. Story went down like a lead balloon. Clearly never happened. Even if it did, it was 1987, that would have been considered a nothing comment then.
Not sure if he’s ever been diagnosed with anything, it’s not public if he has, But the signs are there.
He was the worst guest they’ve had on by far. Fabricated stories and made everyone uncomfortable. Clear God complex, who never sees any faults in his own behaviour. If he was a fictional character he’d be Dutch Van de Linde.

Clearly hates Wayne for his ‘dive’ and when listing the great strikers he played against he said Dion Dublin and Emile Heskey instead of him.

I can imagine just how unbearable he would have been in the Spurs changing room, thinking he was the big fish.

At least it’s made it pretty why he doesn’t get managerial jobs, nothing to do with your colour Sol, just you as a person. No one would employ you “Sir”.
 
Terrible episode - don't know if it was better watching the Youtube video, but as a podcast, it was a complete car crash. His stories are unintelligible, laden with paranoia and God complex, and he's a terrible story teller. Some of his stuff could be interesting, like the court case at Tottenham, but it's so poorly discussed, it ends up making no sense.
He definitely has an agenda, which I think is more than fair
The thing is, the agenda he has, i.e. the lack of representation of black people in football, is entirely fair (and correct), but it deserves a much better ambassador than him. He's very bad at articulating it, and conflates many things. He also latches anything and everything onto his agenda, even when it clearly doesn't make sense. It's important that there are people highlighting this issue in football, but I'm not sure someone that has a massive chip on his shoulder and makes every gripe he has in his own personal life part of that agenda is the right kind of person to carry that message.

Anyway, it must have been painful for them on the show to have him on, I felt sorry for them.
 
Terrible episode - don't know if it was better watching the Youtube video, but as a podcast, it was a complete car crash. His stories are unintelligible, laden with paranoia and God complex, and he's a terrible story teller. Some of his stuff could be interesting, like the court case at Tottenham, but it's so poorly discussed, it ends up making no sense.

The thing is, the agenda he has, i.e. the lack of representation of black people in football, is entirely fair (and correct), but it deserves a much better ambassador than him. He's very bad at articulating it, and conflates many things. He also latches anything and everything onto his agenda, even when it clearly doesn't make sense. It's important that there are people highlighting this issue in football, but I'm not sure someone that has a massive chip on his shoulder and makes every gripe he has in his own personal life part of that agenda is the right kind of person to carry that message.

Anyway, it must have been painful for them on the show to have him on, I felt sorry for them.
They all knew what he was like. It's not like it was forced onto Neville to have him on.
 
Surprised me that Sol was in the same England youth team as Gary Neville. In my mind, Sol was a few years older.

Anyway, he's a weird person and a typical Tory, so feck him.
 
Same.

He had an appointment at the offices of the sports PR agency I worked at. He wasn't my client but because I was new in the industry I'd get all the busy work. So that day I was tasked with bringing him some documents to look over and sign.

I grab them and as soon as I walked in the door - literally the SECOND, before I could even introduce myself - he hits me with "this place is a fecking mess". It wasn't. But still, I agreed with him and apologised. "That's not good enough mate, you need to have some pride in your work. The place is filthy". It was at this point I realised he thought I was the cleaner. To this day I have no idea why. I was wearing a (cheap) suit and had a stack of papers in my hand.

Found out later that even though I'd subsequently introduced myself, made it clear I wasn't the cleaner, then spent way too long going over various documents with him; that he still complained on the way out about how shit the cleaner (me) was.

How absurd :lol: