The Official Tour de France 2008 Thread

Sastre deserves it, but I miss having the big guns going at eachother. There is no one close to a Ullrich, Armstrong or even a Basso at this time, which is a bit sad. Might be a result of the anti-doping work, I don`t know.


Anyway, who are your bets for Champs Elysee? I reckon McEwen is due a chance there. I`d like to say Hushovd, but he has been horribly off form in the last couple of weeks.
 
Sastre or Menchov wouldn't be bad bets either.

It's really open this year so I don't think anybody is sure what will happen.
12/1 Cunego has probably the best odds.


Nice one Ramsy
 
Sastre deserves it, but I miss having the big guns going at eachother. There is no one close to a Ullrich, Armstrong or even a Basso at this time, which is a bit sad. Might be a result of the anti-doping work, I don`t know.


Anyway, who are your bets for Champs Elysee? I reckon McEwen is due a chance there. I`d like to say Hushovd, but he has been horribly off form in the last couple of weeks.

Don't know why but I liked it better this year, not having clear cut favourites. Off course it's dramatic when 2-3 guys battle it out over 2 stages, but the supsense that came with this years version and 4-6 riders that all had a chance if they had a good day in the mountains.

Also think that it sets Armstrongs domination in perspective. With him winning 7 times in a row I got used to it and didn't really appreciate what he really was doing.
 
A Belgian at last. Great sprint from Gert. Bit lucky Millar came ahead of the quickstep train, else Steegmans would have come to the front too early.

Anyway great way to end the tour, I'm happy with the jersey winners.
 
So, I make it we've lost three stage winners (Stefan Schumacher 2, Riccardo Ricco 2 & Leonardo Piepoli 1), and the King of the Mountains (Bernhard Kohl)

Kind of makes you wonder why we bothered eh?

This post race testing is fantastic though. Did I read samples can be kept for up to 9 years? Retest the crap out of them I say
 
So, I make it we've lost three stage winners (Stefan Schumacher 2, Riccardo Ricco 2 & Leonardo Piepoli 1), and the King of the Mountains (Bernhard Kohl)

Kind of makes you wonder why we bothered eh?

This post race testing is fantastic though. Did I read samples can be kept for up to 9 years? Retest the crap out of them I say

It's fantastic news that they are weeding them out, we can watch it knowing they're starting to catch them.
 
A pity though that the Giro d'Italia administrators are refusing to retest the samples for CERA from this year's race. Italians eh? Fergie had them spot on with his ''pasta'' remark.

I'd fancy Ricco would test positive along with a number of others.

There is a list of 14 suspected names connected to CERA circulating in the cycling world. Ricco, Kohl, Piepoli and Egg Head were all apparently on it. The list was handed to team managers prior to the Tour de France and the riders were targeted by testers during the Tour.
 
Ok, he's talking bull when he says he wants to do his bit to clean up the sport; you were just found guilty of doping. It's funny how you only admit it after you've been caught

Still, refreshing that for once its not the same old 'I'm innocent guv' reaction. Once you're caught, hold your hands up and come clean. Hopefully his sentiment about tracable 'medication' comes true...

Kohl admits to failed doping test

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/7668224.stm

Cyclist Bernhard Kohl has admitted to taking a banned substance during this year's Tour de France, saying he "succumbed to temptation".

The 26-year-old climbing specialist is the fourth rider to test positive for Cera, a version of blood booster EPO.

The Austrian won the King of the Mountains jersey as the best climber on this year's Tour and was third overall.

"I have only myself to blame for this mess," said the rider, who now faces a two-year ban from the sport.

"I had a bad feeling to have cheated so many fans and all of Austria, so many young people who became enthusiastic about the sport because of me.

"It was not a good feeling and that's why I'm relieved the truth is out.

"I thought this medication could not be traced but it could be traced. I hope every medication can be traceable in future. I would like to play my part so the sport becomes cleaner."

Kohl's Gerolsteiner team-mate Stefan Schumacher, plus Leonardo Piepoli and Riccardo Ricco, have also failed Cera tests.

Kohl took third overall behind winner Carlos Sastre and Cadel Evans this year in one of the closest podium finishes in the 105-year history of the Tour.

France's national anti-doping agency (AFLD) revealed in September that it would be re-testing blood samples from some riders after it discovered a more effective test for Cera.

Ricco tested positive for the blood-boosting drug during the race, and on 6 October, his fellow Italian and Saunier Duval team-mate Piepoli was also revealed to have used Cera, along with Schumacher.

Just a week later, the Tour, which has been persistently dogged by doping scandals, has been rocked by the news of Kohl's failed test.

An AFLD statement said: "The AFLD confirms that its laboratory at Chatenay-Malabry has found two abnormal samples showing the presence of EPO Cera in blood tests done on 3 and 15 July, before and during the Tour de France, on Austrian cyclist Bernard Kohl."

The Gerolsteiner team will disband at the end of the year, while Kohl had signed a three-year contract with Silence.

Ricco, who has been banned for two years, and Piepoli were sacked by Saunier Duval in July, the latter for "violation of the team's ethics code".

The AFLD has not said whether it has now completed the re-testing of samples, leaving open the possibility of more positive results.

Two other riders, Spaniards Manuel Beltran and Moises Duenas Nevado, tested positive for an older version of EPO during the Tour itself, and Kazakhstan's Dmitri Fofonov failed a test for heptaminol after stage 18.

The discovery of a new test for Cera has prompted the International Olympic Committee to retest 5,000 samples from the Beijing Games.