The Official Tour de France 2008 Thread

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The route
Running from Saturday July 5th to Sunday July 27th 2008, the 95th Tour de France will be made up of 21 stages and will cover a total distance of 3,500 kilometres.

These 21 stages have the following profiles:

10 flat stages,
5 mountain stages,
4 medium mountain stages,
2 individual time-trial stages.


Distinctive aspects of the race
4 mountain finishes,
2 rest days,
82 kilometres of individual time-trials,
19 Category 1, Category 2 and highest level passes will be climbed.


10 new stop-over towns
Auray, Aigurande, Brioude, Prato Nevoso (Italy), Cuneo (Italy), Jausiers, Embrun, Roanne, Cérilly, Étampes.
 
The teams


AG2R La Mondiale
Agritubel
Barloworld
Bouygues Telecom
Caisse d'Épargne
Cofidis,
Crédit Agricole
Euskaltel - Euskadi
Française des Jeux
Gerolsteiner
High Road
Lampre
Liquigas
Quick Step
Rabobank
Saunier Duval
Silence - Lotto
Slipstream Chipotle
Team CSC
Team Milram
 
i used to watch this every year, my dad is a big cycling fan. but since he left home ive not watched much at all.

always used to cheer for Pantani (RIP), i think my dad won some cycling magazines fantasy tour de france too a couple of years ago
 
I used to love watching this when I was growing up, back in the days of Delgado, Indurain and Lemond.

Anyone remember the beast that was Djamolidine Abdoujaparov?

Completely lost interest in recent years though unfortunately
 
I see my thread is full of haters!


Must say the doping disgusts me as well, but the Tour is still fun, and always will be IMO.
 
What's the craic this year.

Have lost all knowledge of my cycling after Rasmusson last year. Had to wiki it to see who won.

Yep Cadel Evans for me.

Any good young talent coming up
 
I used to love watching this when I was growing up, back in the days of Delgado, Indurain and Lemond.

Same era as you Franco. You'll also remember that Australian Phil Anderson and the Belgium Eric Vanderaerden.


Btw reading into Contador - his team has not being invited to teh Tour de France this year due to doping alligations. So last years winner and the winner of the Giro will not be in attendence.


Looks like the French are coming down hard on the doping - which is good
 
BTW betting on the event

Cadel Evans ................3/2 Bet
Alejandro Valverde .......4/1 Bet
Denis Menchov ............9/2 Bet
Carlos Sastre ..............9/1 Bet
Andy Schleck ..............10/1 Bet
Damiano Cunego ..........12/1 Bet
Haimar Zubeldia ...........17/1 Bet
Fränck Schleck ............35/1 Bet
Stijn Devolder .............35/1 Bet
Samuel Sanchez ...........40/1 Bet
Yaroslav Popovych ........45/1 Bet
Mauricio Soler ..............45/1 Bet
Thomas Dekker ............45/1 Bet
Michael Rogers ............50/1 Bet
Christophe Moreau .......50/1 Bet
Oscar Pereiro ..............50/1 Bet
Kim Kirchen .................75/1 Bet
Mikel Astarloza ............100/1 Bet
Cyril Dessel .................100/1 Bet
Juan Jose Cobo Acebo ...100/1 Bet
Jose Marchante ...........150/1 Bet
Tom Danielson .............200/1 Bet
Marzio Bruseghin ..........200/1 Bet
Maxime Monfort ...........200/1
 
i watch this every year.

id bet on denis menchov on winning it this year.
 
Anyway...

It’s really difficult to predict this year, most of the big names aren't riding. Somehow I can't see Evans winning a tour de france. Same goes for Menchov or Valverde.
Cunego skipped the tour of Italy for this year’s Tour, he could 1 to watch out for. And there's no team pursuit and a short first time trial, that could suit him.
However, I predict a surprise winner.. Andy Sleck. The most talented rider in the Tour this year.
 
When was this, before Tom Simpson?

Somebody even dares to mention Delgado. Don't make me laugh.

I dont quite follow. Are you insinuating that people are pretending they were following the tour longer than they have been doing. Or saying the doping has been going on since the days of Simpson. If the second yeah, it was obvious it could have been going on but the coverage of it in recent years and Landis testing positive after winning etc is what did it for me. That may be because im only a casual follower, thats all.
 
I dont quite follow. Are you insinuating that people are pretending they were following the tour longer than thay have been doing. Or saying the doping has been going on since the days of Simpson. If the second yeah, it was obvious it could have been going on but the coverage of it in recent years and Landis testing positive after winning etc is what did it for me. That may be because im only a casual follower, thats all.

Former Tour winners to be caught and banned using dope:
Merxx
Hinault
Delgado
Zoetemelk

...Need I continue?
 
...Need I continue?

Continue if you want. I'm relatively young so hardly know the details of Delgado, the only reason I know about Tom Simpson is because he died on the tour and his story. They were my individual reasons for going off it, did not expect anyone else or more serious followers of the tour to go along with them.
 
Im just defending my argument...

Forgot all about Mark Cavendish. First Brit to win the green jersey? Definitly going to win some stages.
 
Would be fun if Cavendish was able to fight for the the green. I`m a Noggie so obviously hoping for Hushovd. With Boonen out, McEwen and Hushovd will be favourites I guess.

I agree with you Bazalini, it`s good that they are cracking down on it. Other races could learn something from it and up their ante as well. Astana for example were allowed to ride in the Giro, a bit of a shame IMO. The doping has always been there as Rams says, but it needs to be worked on all the time and cycling as a sport needs to try harder because many are losing interest.
 
Crazy that Astana was invited onto Giro and then end up winning. Not what the sport wanted.

And Rams you forgot our own Stephen Roche - who has been surrounded by alligations since the 90's
 
Rams knows his cycling - who you going with Ramsy??

Id certainly have a flutter on Andy Sleck (the younger 1!) for a podium finish.
There's a young guy called Roman Kreuziger who just won the Tour of Switzerland, he'd be worth a little bet.
If you want to play it safe then I would choose between Evans, Valverde or Conego. Sastre or Menchov wouldn't be bad bets either.

It's really open this year so I don't think anybody is sure what will happen.
12/1 Cunego has probably the best odds.
 
I think this is Valverde's year, winning the Dauphine and the Spanish Championship in the lead up to the tour suggests his form is pretty good. His 3-week race credentials are overly impressive but I don't know -- gut feeling.

Hope one of Andy Schleck and Ricco wins it though, that'd be fantastic
 
Good race yesterday, and Valverede looked strong.

It was a great first stage I thought. Makes it a bit different with out the prologue and the little climb at the end resulted in some seconds dropped for a lot of racers already.
 
Ohh, and if Nadal wins today then Spain must have had one of the best weeks of sport they`ve ever had.
 
I couldn't help but chuckle at the BBC Cycling page's headline: 'Millar moves into tour contention' :lol:
 
The Aussie press want to award him the race already.

He looked good today again... I think if he doesn't lose any time on next Monday's stage with the first finish on top of a real mountain, then he's got a great chance.
 
Didn't take long

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/7502763.stm

Spaniard Beltran tests positive


Beltran was one Lance Armstrong's key team-mates
Manuel Beltran is being questioned by French police after a positive test for the banned blood booster erythropoietin (EPO) at the 2008 Tour de France.

After an anomaly in Beltran's pre-Tour blood test, the Spaniard was targeted by France's Anti-Doping Agency (AFLD).

And the 37-year-old Liquigas rider was found to have EPO in his urine 'A' sample taken after the first stage from Brest to Plumelec on Saturday 5 July.

"There are not just traces of EPO, there is EPO," said the head of AFLD.

"The rider concerned has been informed of the results of the analysis of the tests we took and has been informed of his rights," said Pierre Bordry, head of the AFLD.

Beltran has the right to ask for a second urine sample to be tested, but has been suspended and withdrawn from the race by his team manager Roberto Amadio.

And after French police searched his hotel room, Beltran was taken away.

"The police have taken Manuel away for questioning," said a Liquigas spokesman. "He was not sharing the room with any other team-mates. It was only his room that was searched."

For us if this result is confirmed it is an isolated case

Liquigas team manager, Roberto Amadio
Liquigas are likely to be allowed to remain in the race, if they manage to convince Tour organisers that Beltran's is an isolated case.

"Our first decision is to suspend Manuel," said team manager Amadio.

"He has told us he has done nothing wrong and he wants to have a counter-analysis done, so until then all we can do is to suspend him.

"But if that also tests positive, his contract with the team will be terminated."

Amadio added: "Our first reaction to this news is one of surprise.

"For us it's a very bad situation, for the whole team, including the riders who must start the race tomorrow.

"We have an active anti-doping programme in place, so for us if this result is confirmed it is an isolated case."

Last year the entire Cofidis team were expelled when Cristian Moreni tested positive for testosterone.

And the Astana team was also ejected from last year's race when Alexandre Vinokourov tested positive for blood doping.

A professional since 1995, Beltran began his career with the Mapei team, and also rode for Banesto and Team Coast, before helping Lance Armstrong to the last three of his seven Tour de France wins with the US Postal and Discovery teams.

Beltran is the fourth former Armstrong team-mate to test positive for doping; the others were Floyd Landis, Tyler Hamilton and Roberto Heras.

This year marks the 10th anniversary of the 'Festina Affair', when organised doping was uncovered in the then France-based team, leading to many of the current anti-doping systems.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/7502763.stm

Spaniard Beltran tests positive


Beltran was one Lance Armstrong's key team-mates
Manuel Beltran is being questioned by French police after a positive test for the banned blood booster erythropoietin (EPO) at the 2008 Tour de France.

After an anomaly in Beltran's pre-Tour blood test, the Spaniard was targeted by France's Anti-Doping Agency (AFLD).

And the 37-year-old Liquigas rider was found to have EPO in his urine 'A' sample taken after the first stage from Brest to Plumelec on Saturday 5 July.

"There are not just traces of EPO, there is EPO," said the head of AFLD.

"The rider concerned has been informed of the results of the analysis of the tests we took and has been informed of his rights," said Pierre Bordry, head of the AFLD.

Beltran has the right to ask for a second urine sample to be tested, but has been suspended and withdrawn from the race by his team manager Roberto Amadio.

And after French police searched his hotel room, Beltran was taken away.

"The police have taken Manuel away for questioning," said a Liquigas spokesman. "He was not sharing the room with any other team-mates. It was only his room that was searched."

For us if this result is confirmed it is an isolated case

Liquigas team manager, Roberto Amadio
Liquigas are likely to be allowed to remain in the race, if they manage to convince Tour organisers that Beltran's is an isolated case.

"Our first decision is to suspend Manuel," said team manager Amadio.

"He has told us he has done nothing wrong and he wants to have a counter-analysis done, so until then all we can do is to suspend him.

"But if that also tests positive, his contract with the team will be terminated."

Amadio added: "Our first reaction to this news is one of surprise.

"For us it's a very bad situation, for the whole team, including the riders who must start the race tomorrow.

"We have an active anti-doping programme in place, so for us if this result is confirmed it is an isolated case."

Last year the entire Cofidis team were expelled when Cristian Moreni tested positive for testosterone.

And the Astana team was also ejected from last year's race when Alexandre Vinokourov tested positive for blood doping.

A professional since 1995, Beltran began his career with the Mapei team, and also rode for Banesto and Team Coast, before helping Lance Armstrong to the last three of his seven Tour de France wins with the US Postal and Discovery teams.

Beltran is the fourth former Armstrong team-mate to test positive for doping; the others were Floyd Landis, Tyler Hamilton and Roberto Heras.

This year marks the 10th anniversary of the 'Festina Affair', when organised doping was uncovered in the then France-based team, leading to many of the current anti-doping systems.

The good things is that it was 1 of the older generation. It's good to see the bad weeds being pulled out from the peleton.
Most runners have to undertake 80 tests a year, lot of them out of competition. The results of these test are kept in a so called biological passport of the players which van be used as a logbook. In the test different things are meassured, such as the red blood cell count (which can be used to indicate if a rider has been taking EPO). If a rider suddenly shows an abnormal level of something they are placed under suspicion and tested even more tightly. Such was the case with Beltran.
 
Things start getting really interesting today, the first proper mountain stage with a finish at the end of a climb of the highest category. Has Evans recovered from his high speed crash yesterday? It looked a heavy one.