Hasnt been seen at Old Trafford this season. Common knowledge that one
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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And I wanted us to not win yesterday so we maybe able to get rid of him earlier. However, with us progressing, I can still see him being in charge for the knockout stages!
Is there anyone in here who still wants Mourinho to be our manager in 2019? I'm genuinely interested to hear from anyone, not trying to be provocative.
Because he is not a CF made to play upfront by himself. He is a Striker than needs a partner and a creator behind him. If he fails in that then he is not a striker. Playing as a striker for Jose is playing in a team that is built to get the best out of a target man - not a CF like Martial and Rashford; thats why both were instantly dropped from strikers and made to wingers as soon as josse signed the contract and hired Ibrahimovic instead.
Likewise - Martial nor Rashford are going to be showing strikers form in a Jose team; he just does not adapt his tactics to get the best of those strikers as seen yesterday. Using the same players in the same positions that he uses to get the best out of a target man in Lukaku. Play Rashford next to Martial, in front of a number 10 like Mata or even Sanchez then lets see how they do.
Rashford was attempting to do all the work purely by himself yesterday; not purely because he is selfish but because he had to in a team built for target men recieving the ball from crosses and lofts rather than a team that attempts to penetrate defences.
Fellaini behind messi? not the best move. Fellaini behind Lukaku? more symmetrical and underlies the thesis behind our tactics.
And I wanted us to not win yesterday so we maybe able to get rid of him earlier. However, with us progressing, I can still see him being in charge for the knockout stages!
Well now is the right time to get rid of him. we are through to the knockout stages and a new manager might improve us and bring in the right players in January.
You need to post more one liners..
I enjoy Mourinho's shithousery, I can't lie. Always have.
Sack him immediately. Give it to Butt until the end of the season. Throw the kitchen sink at the Spurs manager at the end of the season. Get a DOF in. Someone who knows the club, and understands the standards of the club
I havent seen him in a game in a very long time.
Come to think of it, we hardly see him doing any United related work, although I do stand corrected.
He was at the England squad last month I think presenting something, looked in good spirits. Hasnt been seen at OT this season.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...lton-happy-81st-birthday-jetting-Croatia.html
Sorry it was October on his 81st birthday
Tbf, I did add at the bottom of that statement that that was not the only good thing he had to do.
He isnt missing out on much tbh.
He was adamant about not wanting Mourinho. So much so that he even went to record about it.
I have yet to hear a convincing argument on here. The “best” argument is that the club’s preferred option might not be available right now so maybe it’s better to stick it out until the end of the season rather than appoint a caretaker. The other arguments are more pleas for mitigation, namely that the club has deeper structural problems that will not be solved by merely changing manager. But, obvious WUMs aside, I have yet to hear anyone plausibly claim that Mourinho should lead us into the 2019-2020 season.
Shame because Sir Bobby is a footballing man and loves the club unconditionally. On the positive side he can return to the directors box from next August!
I don't blame him. If we can't stand watching the current shit-on-a-stick football, imagine what it must be like for Bobby.
I've just watched the highlights of the U18 game against Young Boys - a 6-2 victory, and the YB goalkeeper was a serious contender for Man of the Match. The game was exciting, the play from United a joy to watch, and all of the players looked like they were up for it and thrilled to be playing for the club. In the post match interview, Nicky Butt was positive both about the performance and the strength of his squad.
There are a couple of points I'd like to make. Firstly, it isn't all doom and gloom at United, and in a couple of seasons we might expect to see some of these U18 lads making their mark. Not quite class of '92 perhaps, but still plenty of reasons to be optimistic.
Secondly, the contrast between the demeanour of the players and coach at the U18 level, and their counterparts at first team level could hardly be more striking.
For the relatively small number of you who still think Jose Mourinho is a part of the solution rather than a key part of the problem, let me ask you two questions: -
1. How likely is it that we will see any of the U18 team making their way up through the ranks if Jose is still here in two years time?
2. How can one set of players be so exuberant and positive about their football, and another so fearful and unhappy, when all of them are at the same club (and presumably there is quite a lot of interaction between them)?
There are a couple of points I'd like to make. Firstly, it isn't all doom and gloom at United, and in a couple of seasons we might expect to see some of these U18 lads making their mark. Not quite class of '92 perhaps, but still plenty of reasons to be optimistic.
Secondly, the contrast between the demeanour of the players and coach at the U18 level, and their counterparts at first team level could hardly be more striking.
For the relatively small number of you who still think Jose Mourinho is a part of the solution rather than a key part of the problem, let me ask you two questions: -
1. How likely is it that we will see any of the U18 team making their way up through the ranks if Jose is still here in two years time?
2. How can one set of players be so exuberant and positive about their football, and another so fearful and unhappy, when all of them are at the same club (and presumably there is quite a lot of interaction between them)?
You need to have a word with yourself.
In a vacuum there's nothing wrong with the reaction but Jose has a history of point-scoring when it comes to this in general. Not even the first time this season he's gesticulated after a Rashford screw up, has also made statements like 'now you see why always Lukaku', 'everyone was asking for martial to be played for months and see what he did'. He's not above point scoring to justify his past selections but I'm sure it's just a coincidence he never looked at the crowd when Lukaku was on a missed sitter streak
He also said he'll never play players out of position; he also said he was happy with his attacking force, he also said he came here to win big trophies and he will make no excuses; he also said, ....
He also coached Ronaldo, Ramos, Pepe, Casillas, Modric, Fabregas, Di Maria, Costa, Ozil, Benzema, .... and many other players. He's like any other managers, some will love him (his favorites) and many will hates him. The most important thing to take is 80% of fans (the most important constant in football) around the world hate him. Even the fans of the club he manages hate him ffs. Why would fans have an agenda against him? When he was appointed most of the fans were happy with him (even when Chelsea and Madrid fans warned us), but he did his best to turn the entire fan base against him. Trying to him paint as a misunderstood man is just you J-27 being J-27.
He also said he'll never play players out of position; he also said he was happy with his attacking force, he also said he came here to win big trophies and he will make no excuses; he also said, ....
He also coached Ronaldo, Ramos, Pepe, Casillas, Modric, Fabregas, Di Maria, Costa, Ozil, Benzema, .... and many other players. He's like any other managers, some will love him (his favorites) and many will hates him. The most important thing to take is 80% of fans (the most important constant in football) around the world hate him. Even the fans of the club he manages hate him ffs. Why would fans have an agenda against him? When he was appointed most of the fans were happy with him (even when Chelsea and Madrid fans warned us), but he did his best to turn the entire fan base against him. Trying to him paint as a misunderstood man is just you J-27 being J-27.
You’re not doing yourself any favors here mate.
Maybe we can't handle him stinking up the place.
No I’m not?
The original poster was basically saying no top 8 club would buy a player like Matic, inferring he’s too much of a clunker for the big teams to bother with. I’m merely pointing out that’s obviously not true.
Yeah, agreed. The irony is that with Mourinho we're definitely not getting Champions League football next season, and that might affect transfers in the summer, and it might affect some players leaving that we don't want to leave. With a new manager and a positive change in the club, we might actually wake up and have a fighting shot at getting top 4. In that sense, it's probably the safer option to sack him and have Carrick be interim or something. Anything. Just my opinion.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
No top 8 team would buy him NOW, in the past, when he was like, good, yes they did, but even then, Chelsea did not like him first time round and only in his prime years did they buy him back. He had 1 good season with us, before his current decline, Chelsea saw the writing on the wall and got rid for a handy price.
I don't even understand what this argument is about.
Spot on. SAF is untouchable, and rightly so.
Yes 28% of the voters in the poll.
That’s true
Maybe we’ll see that kinderbueno chap back as well
Please no
, although I do think he was a mod account.But how many of those are oppos?
I get what you’re trying to say but that wasn’t what he was arguing. He implied that Matic and the fact he’s a massive lump would exclude him from the very top teams which are full of technically proficient midgets. I’m merely saying that isn’t the case.
You’d think but spineless Ed not going to do that!
I don't see many actually defending him on here though, I feel like a lot of those are people who voted a long time ago and either don't visit the forum that often or simply have forgotten to change their vote.
That’s true
Maybe we’ll see that kinderbueno chap back as well
Ah remember the glory days of Santiago Mentalbiscuits. He was a proper nutter but highly amusing.
Yes, I agree. Mourinho’s history shows it won’t get better from here, just more toxic. The worse that Carrick or whoever can do is mid-table (it won’t be 1974 again) and, as you say, there might be a boost from getting rid of the cloud hanging over the club.
That’s not what he asked but I agree obviously.
You’d hope so wouldn’t you.
Uhm, what are you on about? A poster said he liked Mourinho and is met by «You need to have a word with yourself».
Look, I’ve said again and again that JM needs to go now - that doesn’t mean that people can’t like him or be a fan at the same time as they accept his time at United is over. They are not mutually exclusives.
Damn straight.
I wonder how those players that downed tools and ignored his coaching methods feel now?
Can we pretty much say that ALL of Mourinho's signings have flopped now? Apart from Ibra I guess, who was a short term fix.
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